there is no way alcaraz is using the aero VS, ive tried it and its really bad racket

[HeavyHitter]

This frame has pros and cons just like most of the frames on the market. It's not going to fit everyone's style or please your senses. It's like buying your grandma a racecar and expecting her to enjoy it on her daily drive. This frame's pro's outweigh the cons IMO and it does it well. I switched from heavy swinging player's frames (swingweight 350~) to the VS customized to around 330~ swingweight for a little over a year now and playing my best tennis and enjoying it. I have no comfort issues, even though the frame is a fairly stiff and hollow feeling. If anything, I've had more comfort issues with the coveted Ezone tour that I was testing for awhile. You need to commit to it and learn the frame, it takes time but if you can unlock its potential, you'll understand why Alcaraz can hit so big with his not so impressive spec frame.

 

[pico]

This frame has pros and cons just like most of the frames on the market. It's not going to fit everyone's style or please your senses. It's like buying your grandma a racecar and expecting her to enjoy it on her daily drive. This frame's pro's outweigh the cons IMO and it does it well. I switched from heavy swinging player's frames (swingweight 350~) to the VS customized to around 330~ swingweight for a little over a year now and playing my best tennis and enjoying it. I have no comfort issues, even though the frame is a fairly stiff and hollow feeling. If anything, I've had more comfort issues with the coveted Ezone tour that I was testing for awhile. You need to commit to it and learn the frame, it takes time but if you can unlock its potential, you'll understand why Alcaraz can hit so big with his not so impressive spec frame.

How did you customise yours?

 

[Hawks9451]

How did you customise yours?

20g of lead at 12

 

[Lambsscroll]

no cons

 

[colan5934]

Pretty much yeah:

The Toby kid played 1 at Nebraska and peaked at 1509 in the ATP rankings. Hardly a "top pro." He's significantly better than most on the boards here though, so I guess it's evidence that the spoon is tough to use. Doubt he has changed much about his actual racquets since juniors except maybe upgrading to newer versions and could beat the vast majority of the board handily with any normal stick.

 

[Dbrizz]

The Toby kid played 1 at Nebraska and peaked at 1509 in the ATP rankings. Hardly a "top pro." He's significantly better than most on the boards here though, so I guess it's evidence that the spoon is tough to use. Doubt he has changed much about his actual racquets since juniors except maybe upgrading to newer versions and could beat the vast majority of the board handily with any normal stick.

I think there is one with him using a tiny racquet with strings too

 

[kooshball]

just to be extra clear, is it confirmed whether Carlos is using VS or PA 98 at the us open?

 

[tennisandtennis]

just to be extra clear, is it confirmed whether Carlos is using VS or PA 98 at the us open?

He will use the PAVS for the foreseeable future. There’s no way he’s switching when he’s winning 9 of every 10 matches.

 

[Mischko]

More like 49 out of 50

Only confirmed info is that he used Aero VS for several years, almost stock at swingweight of 326 or so, with RPM Blast 1.30 at 25/23kg, or 24/22kg when he wanted a sligthly looser tension

Players don't change racquets. If a 17 year old starts with Aero VS, and becomes world no. 1 as a 19 year old, does he change his racquet? Would you?

Mindless speculation, to put it politely. Even without the mindboggling success he's had with the VS, pro players don't change racquets. It takes 2-3 years to master a new frame completely, not just a weekend

 

[MrFlip]

Federer never hit any balls out with his 85 sq inch

 

[DanielT]

Alcaraz uses a stock Pure aero 98, which is very uncommon since most players (Nadal, djoker and fed to name a few) don't/didn't even use the racquet they endorse/d. Nadal uses a custom aeroprodruve from 20 smth years ago. Djokers actual racquet isn't available publicly but is an unreleased version of the Head Radical with custom balancing and weighting. Any Wilson pro staff RF is nothing like the one he used either. Also the aero 98 is actually very nice, took one for test hit a couple weeks back but must say like all Aeros it's hard to serve well with.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Djoker’s racquet is not an ‘unreleased’ version of the Radical per se, rather I believe a bespoke layup from a modified mold; the RF 97 is basically Fed’s racquet apart from his custom after market handle.

 

[Hawks9451]

20g of lead at 12

I also use it as a golf club.

 

[DanielT]

Djoker’s racquet is not an ‘unreleased’ version of the Radical per se, rather I believe a bespoke layup from a modified mold; the RF 97 is basically Fed’s racquet apart from his custom after market handle.

according to tenncomm djokers racquet is made using a custom mold called the PT113B, which is loosely based on the head iradical

 

[Hawks9451]

according to tenncomm djokers racquet is made using a custom mold called the PT113B, which is loosely based on the head iradical

@dr. godmode how does it feel to be cited on the big stage (alcaraz coping forum)?

 

[dr. godmode]

@dr. godmode how does it feel to be cited on the big stage (alcaraz coping forum)?

Terrible especially since that’s not even good information which I had to correct in the pinned comment

 

[Hawks9451]

Terrible especially since that’s not even good information which I had to correct in the pinned comment.

It’s ok. The internet is a shaggy beast and time makes fools of us all.
Everybody knows Djokovic use Speed Pro.

 

[blackfrido]

there is no way alcaraz is using the aero VS, ive tried it and its really bad racket.
the reasons why its a bad racket its because it has no control, Its a 50% miss shot, only if you hit it fast maybe you are lucky to choose the direction you want, and it doesnt feel like the same aero rafa is using which is way better.
He is definetely using a secret pro stock under the paintjob really,

Alcaraz probably plays from your own words "a bad racquet" but he's the number 1 player over the planet. My guess, he is a player that can afford to play with a baseball bat

 

[K1Y]

More like 49 out of 50

Only confirmed info is that he used Aero VS for several years, almost stock at swingweight of 326 or so, with RPM Blast 1.30 at 25/23kg, or 24/22kg when he wanted a sligthly looser tension

Players don't change racquets. If a 17 year old starts with Aero VS, and becomes world no. 1 as a 19 year old, does he change his racquet? Would you?

Mindless speculation, to put it politely. Even without the mindboggling success he's had with the VS, pro players don't change racquets. It takes 2-3 years to master a new frame completely, not just a weekend

who confirmed it was an aero VS with that sw?

 

[Mischko]

It has been posted somewhere on this forum, try a search perhaps

 

[ls206]

Where did 326 come from? His unstrung swingweight is 293. With a 1.30mm string there’s no way it’s less than 330 strung.

My racquets are 290 unstrung and 330 strung, with a 1.25 poly

 

[K1Y]

Where did 326 come from? His unstrung swingweight is 293. With a 1.30mm string there’s no way it’s less than 330 strung.

My racquets are 290 unstrung and 330 strung, with a 1.25 poly

Your 1.25 poly adds +40? Is it lynx tour? Normally 1.25 poly adds +30.

 

[Crocodile]

Babolat do have a pro stock version of Aero VS and the RA is about 64, so maybe he is using them.

 

[Alcawrath]

I think he's using a PA98. The grommets on the VS are noticeably different between the two and his current racquet appears to have the 98 grommets. Maybe I'm wrong though?

 

[ls206]

Your 1.25 poly adds +40? Is it lynx tour? Normally 1.25 poly adds +30.

Apologies, I think that includes a dampener that adds 1 point I believe.
The string is firestorm

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

That makes sense, but it's not true. It is possible to have elite level control with the PAVS. There is evidence of it.

There is no evidence, Carlos secretly uses PA 98 mot VS which is a far superior racquet

 

[Hawks9451]

There is no evidence, Carlos secretly uses PA 98 mot VS which is a far superior racquet

Do you think he was using the softer 98 layup before Babolat released it?

 

[ryushen21]

There is no evidence, Carlos secretly uses PA 98 mot VS which is a far superior racquet

I hear his racquets are actually foam filled...

 

[McEncock]

Where did 326 come from? His unstrung swingweight is 293. With a 1.30mm string there’s no way it’s less than 330 strung.

My racquets are 290 unstrung and 330 strung, with a 1.25 poly

I agree with you
Once I measured a boom pro unstrung and strung with 130 RPM blast, which is what Carlos uses, and it added 39sw points. Not to mention that boom pro has one cross string less than the aero vs...

 

[pico]

I think he's using a PA98. The grommets on the VS are noticeably different between the two and his current racquet appears to have the 98 grommets. Maybe I'm wrong though?

Could it be the 98 grommets replaced on the VS? I know the "spin grommets" are not liked by some.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Could it be the 98 grommets replaced on the VS? I know the "spin grommets" are not liked by some.

Just admit hes a 98 user NOT trashy VS!

 

[pico]

Just admit hes a 98 user NOT trashy VS!

It is fine if he is lol. I am just considering all possibilities. As a critical thinker, that is what I do.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

It is fine if he is lol. I am just considering all possibilities. As a critical thinker, that is what I do.

Well I'm going to have to ask you to please stop thinking critically

 

[Hawks9451]

Book of Sureshs
I now believe that Rafa's achievements are entirely due to this racket, not to intrinsic ability.
-sureshs

 

[DariaGT]

Love to see Rafa vs Fed switching racquets used in 2005, who would win?

 

[orlin zlatarsky]

Love to see Rafa vs Fed switching racquets used in 2005, who would win?

What a great idea!... and actually see if the racquets really matter

 

[McEncock]

Love to see Rafa vs Fed switching racquets used in 2005, who would win?

Fed would spray everything in the fence and rafa would feed the net xD

 

[DariaGT]

Babolat vs Wilson Tournament with Rafa vs Fed as the highlight for one match
and then play doubles together for another match vs BrianBros
Fedal could spend a month tweaking them

Alcaraz, Fils, Rune using Blades VS Tsitsipas, Grigor and DeMinaur with a PA or PAVs

DeMinaur could finally get that extra heavyness he lacks vs Citybus, Meds and Carlitoss
instead of waiting till he is 35 like Ferrer did.

 

[Denis]

Alcaraz uses a stock Pure aero 98, which is very uncommon since most players (Nadal, djoker and fed to name a few) don't/didn't even use the racquet they endorse/d. Nadal uses a custom aeroprodruve from 20 smth years ago. Djokers actual racquet isn't available publicly but is an unreleased version of the Head Radical with custom balancing and weighting. Any Wilson pro staff RF is nothing like the one he used either. Also the aero 98 is actually very nice, took one for test hit a couple weeks back but must say like all Aeros it's hard to serve well with.

LOL,
Most reviewers conclude that it's one of the best racquets to serve. I think that as well. Maybe a very flat serves don't work that well, but you have so much power with that stick, that there is no reason not to add some spins, if your technique allows that..

 

[Denis]

Fed would spray everything in the fence and rafa would feed the net xD

You would be surprised that both would adapt and play at 95% of their normal level. The higher your level - the quicker you can adapt to ANY racquet.

 

[McEncock]

You would be surprised that both would adapt and play at 95% of their normal level. The higher your level - the quicker you can adapt to ANY racquet.

I agree on that =)

 

[Fairhit]

You would be surprised that both would adapt and play at 95% of their normal level. The higher your level - the quicker you can adapt to ANY racquet.

For sure, I used to switch racquets and it took me too much time to adapt and play something resembling a rally, the last couple of years I have tried different types of frames for 10-15 minutes at a time and yes, the first couple of hits are just for calibration but I can start to play immediately and with some level of competitiveness, sure, it takes time to get at the same level of precision I'm used to with my everyday frame but is not like I can't play with other frames. And that's what happens with me, imagine what a pro can do with any frame they put their hands on, they can still defeat 99.99% of the population, they just need a little time to get the nuances down.