Thiem cements himself

Le Master

Professional
Boggles my mind how a person can have a series of thought processes that leads him to come to this forum, click to create a brand new thread, and populate it with the worthless words that OP did. Thinking those words is one thing, but actually coming to the conclusion that others will want to read them and creating a thread to do so. Just unbelievable.
 

FedGR

Professional
Isn't he 8-3 this year against top 10 players? Posting this a couple years back might have made sense but posting it today is just dumb.
 

tudwell

Legend
Boggles my mind how a person can have a series of thought processes that leads him to come to this forum, click to create a brand new thread, and populate it with the worthless words that OP did. Thinking those words is one thing, but actually coming to the conclusion that others will want to read them and creating a thread to do so. Just unbelievable.
I’m pretty sure a majority of the posts on this forum are made precisely because the authors think others don’t want to read them. It’s 90% petty jabs and trolling.
 

tonylg

Legend
If you watched the on court interview (how bad is Annabel Croft BTW), you would have seen Thiem say a few times that the most important part of that win is that he has qualified for the finals, which he thought was important enough to have a lie down. I don't know what I would have done, but will be watching with intent to see what the OP does when he qualifies for the WTF finals.

I'm sure the OP felt the same way about Djokovic celebrating Thiem's unforced error that enabled him to steal the first set. I just can't find that thread yet.
 

tudwell

Legend
As a loser, psychologically. Falling down to celebrate a RR win as if he won a slam. We all knew he was a mental midget, but this simply reinforces it.
To be fair, he was down 1-4 in the final set tiebreak. It was probably a huge surprise and relief and excitement to end up winning. Nadal’s fallen to the floor after winning just a set before, let alone a match, and no one can deny he has a champion’s mentality.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
Isn't he 8-3 this year against top 10 players? Posting this a couple years back might have made sense but posting it today is just dumb.
His problem is that he has such a history of slaying dragons but then not being able to finish the job by taking home the title. He can zone for one match but it usually takes everything out of him.

Some people see him celebrate a RR win like this and just shake their heads because they know what's coming next.
 

FedGR

Professional
His problem is that he has such a history of slaying dragons but then not being able to finish the job by taking home the title. He can zone for one match but it usually takes everything out of him.

Some people see him celebrate a RR win like this and just shake their heads because they know what's coming next.
Honestly, I've criticized him in the past too for his mindless ball bashing and has questioned his skillset to reach the very top. But also we need to give him credit because he has been playing his whole career against the guys that when they finish theirs they will be considered the 3 GOATs of tennis.

Hopefully he can keep playing at this level and get the recognition he deserves.

PS: You have the most amazing avatar/username in the history of fora. (y)(y)(y):laughing: "You had me at meat tornado"
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
I’m pretty sure a majority of the posts on this forum are made precisely because the authors think others don’t want to read them. It’s 90% petty jabs and trolling.
This.

I’ve been on many forums, and this is by far the worst I’ve ever seen for trolling. Mods don’t seem to care either.

It’s still good to read for the tennis discussion though.
 
When Thiem, Zverev, Medvedev or anyone else delivers a slam title defeating one or more big three members along the way, then they have arrived. Until then they've not overcome the highest challenge in the game.

Credit to Thiem and Medvedev for making slam finals. Credit to Thiem, Medvedev, Zverev and Khachanov for winning M1000 and / or WTF but none of them have summited everest yet.
 

duaneeo

Legend
If this were Thiem's first win over Nole, sure. Or Thiem's first advancement to, say, a slam final, okay. But Thiem is the game's #5 player who is a slam finalist and a Masters winner/multi-finalist. Beating the #2 player (his 4th win over Nole in their last 5 meetings) to advance to his first WTF semifinal does not warrant a falling-down celebration. Thiem is now at a point in his career where this type of celebration should be reserved only for championship point conversions.
 

crazyups

Professional
If this were Thiem's first win over Nole, sure. Or Thiem's first advancement to, say, a slam final, okay. But Thiem is the game's #5 player who is a slam finalist and a Masters winner/multi-finalist. Beating the #2 player (his 4th win over Nole in their last 5 meetings) to advance to his first WTF semifinal does not warrant a falling-down celebration. Thiem is now at a point in his career where this type of celebration should be reserved only for championship point conversions.
It also does not not warrant a falling down celebration.
 

yokied

Hall of Fame
OP's content is a lot more OG than some of the other stuff that passes for trolling around here.

As the most utterly jaded, self-hating member that can barely identify with TeamTim, OP is probably right.

Laver Cup celebrations are ok, celebrating after beating best player in form after deciding tiebreak is not. Ttw in a nutshell.
LOL can I get a 40:15 check on your poasts and likes real quick.
 

OhYes

Legend
OP's content is a lot more OG than some of the other stuff that passes for trolling around here.

As the most utterly jaded, self-hating member that can barely identify with TeamTim, OP is probably right.



LOL can I get a 40:15 check on your poasts and likes real quick.
My 40:15 posts ?
Oh please do, I am anxiously waiting results :)
 

ibbi

Legend
I mean it wasn't just a round robin win, he also qualified, and has a pretty good to great shot of topping the group.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Yes, celebrating a win over the best player in the world proves he's a mental midget
Nadal is the best player in the world at the moment as he is #1. Not the best player specifically on this court, but the best overall right now.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
this is the sign. finally young guns are beating the old gen into the pulp and destroying them. look for the old guys to get destroyed in all major slams next year by the young guns
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Laver Cup celebrations are ok, celebrating after beating best player in form after deciding tiebreak is not. Ttw in a nutshell.
Not the best player in form. Nadal is #1 and Medvedev leads the post-Wimbledon race.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
It's not the fact that he beat Djokovic because he already did it several times in the past including twice in the Slams but the fact that it took an insane performance to just barely squeeze out a win.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Not the best player in form. Nadal is #1 and Medvedev leads the post-Wimbledon race.
Yeah because ranking totally represent the players form 100% of the time. Was Federer the most in-form player in the world against Mardy Fish in Indian Wells in 2008? Or when he lost to Blake, Stepanek or Karlovic?

Nadal was abysmal, I could easily see him go 0-3 at this tournament. Wouldn't even beat Berrettini.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Nadal has done nothing to the standard Djoker has showed here on HC this year.
? Nadal reached the final of the 2 Grand Slams on hard, Djokovic only 1. Anyway, you changed the topic which is current form.

Post-Wimbledon form: Nadal is #1, won Cincinnati and the US Open. Djokovic only won Paris. Both Nadal and Medvedev have won more points than Djokovic post-Wimbledon. In short, Djokovic is not the best in form player.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Yeah because ranking totally represent the players form 100% of the time. Was Federer the most in-form player in the world against Mardy Fish in Indian Wells in 2008? Or when he lost to Blake, Stepanek or Karlovic?

Nadal was abysmal, I could easily see him go 0-3 at this tournament. Wouldn't even beat Berrettini.
Post-Wimbledon: Nadal won Cincinnati and the US Open, Djokovic only Paris. Medvedev won 2 Masters 1000. Both Nadal and Medvedev have earned more points than Djokovic post-Wimbledon and so Djokovic is not the best player in form.

And yes, the #1 (Nadal) is the best player at the moment.

If you want to be radical and consider only the form of the last match, then Thiem is the best player in form at the moment.
 
? Nadal reached the final of the 2 Grand Slams on hard, Djokovic only 1. Anyway, you changed the topic which is current form.

Post-Wimbledon form: Nadal is #1, won Cincinnati and the US Open. Djokovic only won Paris. Both Nadal and Medvedev have won more points than Djokovic post-Wimbledon. In short, Djokovic is not the best in form player.
Current form: Djoker > Nadal, and it isn't close.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Post-Wimbledon: Nadal won Cincinnati and the US Open, Djokovic only Paris. Medvedev won 2 Masters 1000. Both Nadal and Medvedev have earned more points than Djokovic post-Wimbledon and so Djokovic is not the best player in form.
Yeah I totally saw that form against Zverev.

Also, yeah his draws were insane. Canada - Federer and Djokovic didn't play, Nadal magically wins. US Open aka the Berrettini Open. Nuff said.
And yes, the #1 (Nadal) is the best player at the moment.

If you want to be radical and consider only the form of the last match, then Thiem is the best player in form at the moment.
Nadal is the no 1 ranked player in the world. No-one in the right mind would call him the best player on the planet right now. Same as in 2017 when Federer lost like 4 matches in the entire year or something and went 4-0 against Nadal himself including 3 murders.

With Thiem - yeah call me if he plays at this level for a couple of weeks at least. There is exactly zero chance that he keeps this up in every match. Djokovic remains the tournament favorite and I don't even have to look at the odds to know this.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Yeah I totally saw that form against Zverev.

Also, yeah his draws were insane. Canada - Federer and Djokovic didn't play, Nadal magically wins. US Open aka the Berrettini Open. Nuff said.

Nadal is the no 1 ranked player in the world. No-one in the right mind would call him the best player on the planet right now. Same as in 2017 when Federer lost like 4 matches in the entire year or something and went 4-0 against Nadal himself including 3 murders.

With Thiem - yeah call me if he plays at this level for a couple of weeks at least. There is exactly zero chance that he keeps this up in every match. Djokovic remains the tournament favorite and I don't even have to look at the odds to know this.
On this court (indoor hard) Djokovic is in better form. Overall for all surfaces is Nadal as he #1 after achieving better results for his overall results on all surfaces and conditions.

And by your logic (only indoor hard counts) Thiem is in better form than Djokovic.
 
Only on this court (indoor hard). Overall Nadal has the best form as he is #1 for his overall results on all surfaces and conditions. Medevev also has showed a better form post-Wimbledon.
Yes, on aggregate over a 52 week span. Since when were surface and most recent results not considered as part of form? Enough of this post-Wimbledon stuff. Nole dominated Paris, another indoor tournament, right before this indoor tournament, and you want to posit Nadal as the guy to beat?
 
Anyway, we're getting sidetracked by labels and accolades here. The point @OhYes was making was that Thiem overcame arguably the toughest challenge he could have faced here, and that celebrating it is fine. The semantics around what 'in form' really means is neither here nor there, really.
 

guitarra

Professional
When you thought it couldn't get more stupid...

Prepare yourself for more suffering, OP, Dominator is coming for your guy and will eat him.
 
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