Thiem now 15-18 against the Big Three

clout

Hall of Fame
He's 6 years younger than Djokovic, 7 years younger than Nadal, and 12 years younger than Federer.

He's also 3 years older than Med, 4 years older than Zverev, 5 years older than Stefanos and 6 years older than Shapo.

All of his main peers are members of the "lost gen."

At 27 years of age, no player on tour has a BIGGER age advantage than Thiem does right now (at least among those in the top 10). He's significantly younger than the big 3, but is much better than anyone in his age group, and for now, is more experienced/developed than the actual next gen. If he's not winning all the big events right now, he never will, so he better take advantage of the time he has now.
 
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Gazelle

Legend
He's 6 years younger than Djokovic, 7 years younger than Nadal, and 12 years younger than Federer.

He's also 3 years older than Med, 4 years older than Zverev, 5 years older than Stefanos and 6 years older than Shapo.

At 27 years of age, no player on tour has a BIGGER age advantage than Thiem does right now (at least among those in the top 10). If he's not winning all the big events right now, he never will.
True, he seems to be peaking right now. Needs to win another slam soon, either AO or RG.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I know he's still underachieving in terms of slams, but it's quite impressive nonetheless!
Thiem is 12 year younger than Fed, 7 years younger than Rafa and 6 years younger than Djoker. All of those guys are in their mid to late 30's. Thiem should be beating them like a drum whenever he plays any of them, regardless of surface.

Edit: Oops! Now see Clout's basically identical post previously.
 

DonDiego

Hall of Fame
Thiem is 12 year younger than Fed, 7 years younger than Rafa and 6 years younger than Djoker. All of those guys are in their mid to late 30's. Thiem should be beating them like a drum whenever he plays any of them, regardless of surface.

Edit: Oops! Now see Clout's basically identical post previously.
Yeah right... Like it's sooo easy to beat Djokovic or Nadal these days. Have you watched the last RG final? I think both guys level are still pretty high.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
Why does age have to come up in EVERY discussion? Yea lots other guys are younger than them too and played them many times while they were over 30 but have nowhere near that amount of success. Just say well done and leep it moving.
Yes, like you did when Thiem beat Djokovic last year. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And Djokovic didn't even choke then, Thiem was the one choking. Today Nadal choked, and you say he played great.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
He was crying for weeks about Djokovic being "too passive" and Thiem not doing anything special.
Djokovic was too passive. His average groundstoke speed was around 70 mph or so. Nothing like Nadal today who was hitting 95 mph forehands. I've already posted the graphic to show the huge difference from that match and the match at AO, and yet you are still on this topic that I shut down months ago. Shut up!
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic was too passive. His average groundstoke speed was around 70 mph or so. Nothing liken Nadal today who was hitting 95 mph forehands. I've already posted the graphic to show the huge difference from that match and the match at AO, and yet you are still on this topic that I shut down months ago. Shut up!
But Thiem probably deserves as much credit for that match as this one, I think.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic was too passive. His average groundstoke speed was around 70 mph or so. Nothing liken Nadal today who was hitting 95 mph forehands. I've already posted the graphic to show the huge difference from that match and the match at AO, and yet you are still on this topic that I shut down months ago. Shut up!
Right.
Djokovic won a match-he played great.
Djokovic lost a match-he was awful.
Nadal lost a match-he was great.
Nadal won a match-he was just lucky that his opponent was trash or choked.

You always can cherry pick stats to "prove" this.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Why does age have to come up in EVERY discussion? Yea lots other guys are younger than them too and played them many times while they were over 30 but have nowhere near that amount of success. Just say well done and leep it moving.
Because it is linked to Federer.
Geriatrics don't get credit because young guys are 4.0 level players probably, young guys don't get credit because it's just the geriatrics they beat. Put context for youngsters that they are doing worse than before, don't put context for geriatrics that they are the best players ever. #MaestronianAsterisks
 

RaulRamirez

Hall of Fame
Give Thiem credit. He has become a beast on hard court the last couple years.
At this point in time, he's the second-best HC player in the world, right - and certainly capable of beating #1 on hard.
I will not say that Rafa all of a sudden became older in those tiebreaks - much as I wanted him to win.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Geriatrics don't get credit because young guys are 4.0 level players probably, young guys don't get credit because it's just the geriatrics they beat. Put context for youngsters that they are doing worse than before, don't put context for geriatrics that they are the best players ever. #MaestronianAsterisks
Bingo.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
Give Thiem credit. He has become a beast on hard court the last couple years.
At this point in time, he's the second-best HC player in the world, right - and certainly capable of beating #1 on hard.
I will not say that Rafa all of a sudden became older in those tiebreaks - much as I wanted him to win.
Nadal just turned into a mental midget. He can't win any big points. Even in RG final, he owned Djokovic at everything except mentality. Mentally Djokovic was clearly the stronger player in that match.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Thiem is 12 year younger than Fed, 7 years younger than Rafa and 6 years younger than Djoker. All of those guys are in their mid to late 30's. Thiem should be beating them like a drum whenever he plays any of them, regardless of surface.

Edit: Oops! Now see Clout's basically identical post previously.
Djokovic is 33. Nadal is 34. That's not really that old these days when you look at athletes in other sports who peak or still perform at a fairly high level into their mid to late 30s.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Geriatrics don't get credit because young guys are 4.0 level players probably, young guys don't get credit because it's just the geriatrics they beat. Put context for youngsters that they are doing worse than before, don't put context for geriatrics that they are the best players ever. #MaestronianAsterisks
I mean, maybe they are the best ever because the younger ones aren't that good. Where is the controversy?
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Geriatrics don't get credit because young guys are 4.0 level players probably, young guys don't get credit because it's just the geriatrics they beat. Put context for youngsters that they are doing worse than before, don't put context for geriatrics that they are the best players ever. #MaestronianAsterisks
I mean we saw guys like Murray, Safin, Stan and Delpo take slams away from the younger Big 3. Weren't they still the best ever then? So it's not an impossible task.
 
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