This could be a blessing in disguise for Djokovic

Adman

Rookie
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
 

OhYes

Legend
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
I was hoping for retirement after CYGS
 

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
Fed fans were predicting a vengeful, motivated and determined Fed following 40-15.

It would have been easier for Fed to just hit one serve and easier for Djoker to focus and finish off a guy he destroyed earlier in the year.
 

E36BMWM3

Hall of Fame
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
Hindsight is always 20/20... we'll have to wait until next year to see what fruits bear from this utter demolition that our good Russian lad laid on the GOAT... lmao, what a beautiful way to start off a Monday.
 

Kralingen

Hall of Fame
One in the hand is worth two in the bush, as they say. I guarantee you Novak would rather have 21 and the CYGS than any 2022 Slam.

That said if there is one thing about the dude that is undeniable it's that he rebounds from losses like an absolute demon. I don't believe RG '21 happens without the humiliation of RG '20, I don't think 2015 happens without the Nishikori loss, I don't think 2011 domination of Nadal happens without 2010 USO.

So I suppose it could be a good thing overall. But I do think he's clearly getting older, and the younger guys have all seen him bleed now. He will suffer many more crushing losses in his career from this point forward. But if he wins 2 slams, it could all be worth it.
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
There’s probably a big chance of this happening, since he’s always come back from adversity or tough performances to take more slams. I think if he won this match he would’ve shut down like the 2016 season, and knowing his age he wouldn’t be able to make a career comeback.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
I honestly think had Djokovic won yesterday, he was going to cut his schedule way back in 2022 to be with his family more. I do think this would have put him in a bit of a slump because, what else is there to achieve? Basically nothing. Something I read from I think @-NN- who said that Djokovic going in with the mindset that he was going to play the match like it was his last was a mistake. I agree with that. He also said in his presser that it was the biggest match of his career. He just added extra, unnecessary pressure to an already historic situation when he was already carrying tired legs.

He needed to treat that match like it was any other Slam final and just focus on what he needed to do tactically, but that's easier said than done. Had he had Medvedev's draw, he had a much better chance of pulling it off but it wasn't meant to be. Now at least he still has motivation to get more Slams, which I'm confident that he will do, which is something that would have decreased had he won.
 
On the flip side, this could be the moment #NextGen needed to finally take over. Now that they've seen one of their own beat Joker in a schlem F (in straights sets no less) they may now have the belief to retire the Big 3 for good.
 

Slicehand

Semi-Pro
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
He much rather go for most majors won, calendar GS was below that for him, even if he won he would ve gone for some more slams, so no, he couldnt make it and its no blessing, but after all is not that big of a loss if he can still take the majors record, so no blessing for sure but not the end of the world
 

Mivic

Semi-Pro
I don't think I watched the same match as everyone else yesterday. How anyone can say with any sort of confidence that Djokovic is finished on HC at the slam level given the circumstances of the final is beyond my comprehension. He's clear favourite for AO22, especially if he's in Tsitsipas' half of the draw.
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
Fed fans were predicting a vengeful, motivated and determined Fed following 40-15.

It would have been easier for Fed to just hit one serve and easier for Djoker to focus and finish off a guy he destroyed earlier in the year.
No they weren’t; Federer was 38 and that was probably his best shot at a final slam. He had completely outplayed both Nadal and Djokovic back-to-back at 38 years old and then threw it all
away.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think I watched the same match as everyone else yesterday. How anyone can say with any sort of confidence that Djokovic is finished on HC at the slam level given the circumstances of the final is beyond my comprehension. He's clear favourite for AO22, especially if he's in Tsitsipas' half of the draw.
That's TTW motto. You lose one match then that means you're finished, no matter what happened before that match.
 

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
No they weren’t; Federer was 38 and that was probably his best shot at a final slam. He had completely outplayed both Nadal and Djokovic back-to-back at 38 years old and then threw it all
away.
Some certainly were, and they thought the revenge beating of Djoker at the WTF was proof of what was to come. Point is, no loss is a blessing. It's much easier to just finish off what is in front of you. When you hit your mid-to-late 30s, nothing is guaranteed.
 

beltsman

Legend
One in the hand is worth two in the bush, as they say. I guarantee you Novak would rather have 21 and the CYGS than any 2022 Slam.

That said if there is one thing about the dude that is undeniable it's that he rebounds from losses like an absolute demon. I don't believe RG '21 happens without the humiliation of RG '20, I don't think 2015 happens without the Nishikori loss, I don't think 2011 domination of Nadal happens without 2010 USO.

So I suppose it could be a good thing overall. But I do think he's clearly getting older, and the younger guys have all seen him bleed now. He will suffer many more crushing losses in his career from this point forward. But if he wins 2 slams, it could all be worth it.
This year broke him. Did you see him having a crying breakdown at 5-4? He barely scraped by the other slams and knows it. I am sure he will get to 21 by default at some point, but this is a major blow.
 

Mivic

Semi-Pro
That's TTW motto. You lose one match then that means you're finished, no matter what happened before that match.
Ikr. It just surprises me that I see a lot of that kind of nonsense coming from Djokovic fans. Like, how can you have such little faith in the guy given all he's achieved over the years.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
I wouldn’t call it a blessing in disguise but I think he will work hard to win more and get over this hump. His 3 slam season in 2021, and stopping Nadal at FO, helps a lot. He really only needs to win one more slam. Chances are both of Fedal are done winning slams, but we will have to wait and see.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Ikr. It just surprises me that I see a lot of that kind of nonsense coming from Djokovic fans. Like, how can you have such little faith in the guy given all he's achieved over the years.
Djokovic is still King of AO and never lost in the final there. No way would I ever say he doesn't have a chance to win that Slam again. I hope he reaches 10 at AO in January to get #21.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is still King of AO and never lost in the final there. No way would I ever say he doesn't have a chance to win that Slam again. I hope he reaches 10 at AO in January to get #21.
Imagine if he draws PCB-Thiem-Zverev-Medvedev though
 

BauerAlmeida

Professional
Fed fans were predicting a vengeful, motivated and determined Fed following 40-15.

It would have been easier for Fed to just hit one serve and easier for Djoker to focus and finish off a guy he destroyed earlier in the year.
Federer was playing great at USO and AO following Wimbledon, he would have had strong chances of winning one of them if healthy.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Imagine if he draws PCB-Thiem-Zverev-Medvedev though
I have no idea why you overrate PCB. He has one legit win over Novak and that was over an exhausted one at the Olympics. An in form Thiem/Zverev/Medvedev would be a hellish draw but then again he took down Zverev and Medvedev in AO earlier this year, and no guarantee Thiem will be at top level in January after being out for so long.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
I have no idea why you overrate PCB. He has one legit win over Novak and that was over an exhausted one at the Olympics. An in form Thiem/Zverev/Medvedev would be a hellish draw but then again he took down Zverev and Medvedev in AO earlier this year, and no guarantee Thiem will be at too level in January after being out for so long.
A cold chill will run down Djokovic's spine if he sees PCB in his section at AO.
 

mwym

Semi-Pro
We just need to wait and see with which mindset Djokovic comes out of this. It will take some days, or couple of weeks.

But he is not done. He has that additional motivator again, just like he had with no W20 and 'shame' of RG20 and USO20. Now it is Medvedev the one to beat. More fun ahead for all.

E.g. will Djokovic play WTF?
 

ibbi

Legend
I mean he said himself he's glad that it's over. The pressure was too much to bear, and next year (at least for the first two, if he wins them both then the pressure will be on again :-D ) he'll just be playing for 21, not for the grand slam. Much easier on paper.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Fed fans were predicting a vengeful, motivated and determined Fed following 40-15.
No we weren’t, but of course you know better. 95% of us knew he’d never win another slam again. How can any 38 year old tennis player be “vengeful and determined”? They’re on their last legs.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
I hate to tell you guys, but Djokovic is getting older not younger. The AO is in four months. The chances for him winning it are lower not higher. Father Time has no mercy.
 
I hate to tell you guys, but Djokovic is getting older not younger. The AO is in four months. The chances for him winning it are lower not higher. Father Time has no mercy.
Yeah I agree with this. That’s why I was delighted he won what he did this year because it’s only gonna get even tougher from here. The way I see it Wimbledon is his best chance because less can play great on grass at moment.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Hall of Fame
Lol at these TTW discussions, coming just short of the biggest achievement in the sport should be a blessing in disguise.

The slam record will be Novak’s anyways, he reached all four slam finals this year, winning three of them so statistically his most successful slam year next to 2015. He will still be the favorite or at least one of the favorites at every Siam in 2022 and at the very least has outsider chances to even grab slams in 2023. Even if we assume Med and Zverev now step up, at the AO Djokovic is still the man to beat imho and at Wimbledon and the French Med was particularly unimpressive up till now.

This being said even if we assume Djokovic had lost motivation after winning CYGS and would have won fewer slams than he will now, a CYGS is still something absolutely special. Legacy wise I would put 21 slams including CYGS over 22 or even 23 slams without CYGS, so to make it short: This is absolutely NOT a blessing in disguise.
 

Robert C

New User
Think about it. Where would he go from CYGS? Most probably to a slump. I don't see how he 'd be able to set new goals.

But now, he still has mountains to climb and rivers to cross. In the long run, this may be the best thing for Novak, given that Nadal can squeeze one more French Open, even on one leg.

2022 just got much more interesting...
I had the same thought - would probably lead to a slump like after his French Open. There's no reason Nadal only wins one more French Open, people have been saying just one more for many years...the race is not over....
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Yeah I agree with this. That’s why I was delighted he won what he did this year because it’s only gonna get even tougher from here. The way I see it Wimbledon is his best chance because less can play great on grass at moment.
I agree that Wimbledon is his best chance where he can play shorter points and of course, the competition there is quite weak. I also don’t think that either Federer or Nadal will pose any more threat. Age seems to have caught up with them both.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
I agree that Wimbledon is his best chance where he can play shorter points and of course, the competition there is quite weak. I also don’t think that either Federer or Nadal will pose any more threat. Age seems to have caught up with them both.
Gone are the days when it was only about Rafa, Roger and Novak.
 
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