This could snowball quickly if Shapo pulls out..

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Based on this website I am looking at, it looks like the air quality has improved in Melbourne, even from yesterday. It seems like the rain made a big difference since it says the air quality in Melbourne right now is "good". I think Shapo made those comments when things seemed a little more worrying for the players. We still have to wait and see but it does look like conditions have improved.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Yep, he should. But the big 3 never would as they will play indoors the entire time. That does seem unfair.
I agree it would be unfair if the Big 3 play indoor while other players are forced to play outdoor. Fourtunately, it won't happen, as the Big 3 will play outdoor the whole tournament.

Some have suggested that, due to the poor air quality in Melbourne and the great quantity of smoke in the air, it would be better to play the matches of the AO indoor. Such a contingency plan will not succeed. Jay Clarke, British no. 5 tennis player, has disputed the qualifying phase and practised on the indoor courts at Melbourne park. He asserts that: "There was talk of it moving indoors but we went over to the national tennis centre and it was worse. They have got permanent vents open so when it [the smoke] got in it wasn’t able to get out". In other words, the smoke leakes into the indoor courts of the AO and it gets even worse.

The consequences are clear: in the absence of rain or extreme sun, matches at the AO should be played outdoor. It makes sense, since historically the AO has always been and will always be an outdoor event. The good news is that the smoke is slowly dissapearing, so it should not be a big deal.


 
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reaper

Legend
Most players would love to see their opponent withdraw from the tournament to protect their health. According to the forecast Monday is the last day where "areas of smoke haze" are forecast, which sounds much more benign than smoke blanketing Melbourne as has been the case for much of the past 3 weeks. This issue is going to disappear because there simply won't be enough smoke to complain about.
 

zipplock

Hall of Fame
This feels a bit "snowflakey" to me. It's not like they are playing outdoors all day for weeks at a time. He has to know that on some level the tournament officials understand that without players there would be no tournament. Maybe officials are pushing the limits, but that's their choice. Perhaps he's never been to Hong Kong, Kolkata, Mexico City or countless other cities where people live in crap air conditions their whole lives. He doesn't want to play, no problem, just pull out before the tournament begins to give another player the choice.
 

megamind

Legend
Yeah, issue is they won seats out west by large margins, lost closer races in ONtario, so more votes overall, fewer seats. Quebec had a party focused on Quebec grab a large number of votes.
yea BQ got me caught by surprise, didnt see that coming
 

Yugram

Legend
He's in Fed's section no?
Reminds me of Wimbledon 2018. Coric and Cilic were the two most in-form players on grass going into Wimbledon, just defeated Djokovic and Federer, both in Federer’s draw. Then suddenly both get upset on the first week. I wonder how much money they got for participating in this circus.
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Reminds me of Wimbledon 2018. Coric and Cilic were the two most in-form players on grass going into Wimbledon, just defeated Djokovic and Federer, both in Federer’s draw. Then suddenly both get upset on the first week. I wonder how much money they got for participating in this circus.
The disappearance fees are real

But ironically
 

reaper

Legend
I thought things were getting better with the rain. What's the air quality forecast for the week?
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The forecast is "areas of smoke haze" on Monday. That sounds quite benign, certainly nothing like the hazardous blanketing of the city that has been the case several times in the last month. There's no further mention of smoke in the forecast. It's unlikely there will be much of an issue (if any) with smoke during the tournament.
 

Got Aced

Rookie
Reminds me of Wimbledon 2018. Coric and Cilic were the two most in-form players on grass going into Wimbledon, just defeated Djokovic and Federer, both in Federer’s draw. Then suddenly both get upset on the first week. I wonder how much money they got for participating in this circus.
Big time conspiracy with Federer losing on court 1 to Kevin Anderson.

A circus indeed :sneaky:
 
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Robert Baratheon

Guest
Didn‘t this philosopher get his throat slashed and never saw it coming ?
Yeah, courtesy of two other umm.. philosophers who when they ran out of book material didn't know how to write shït.
But if you will read the books you will find that philosopher is the best player out there. Though I suspect his undoing will happen similarly but with a better, much more believable plot.
 
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Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
““So what can I do?” Federer said. “Can I go on court and say, ‘Everybody stop play?’ ...”

Pretty much. :D
 
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Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Yeah, courtesy of two other umm.. philosophers who when they ran out of book material didn't know to wrote shït.
But if you will read the books you will find that philosopher is the best player out there. Though I suspect his undoing will happen similarly but with a better, much more believable plot.
Don't get people to invest their life into a story that will never fin...
 
Yeah, courtesy of two other umm.. philosophers who when they ran out of book material didn't know to wrote shït.
But if you will read the books you will find that philosopher is the best player out there. Though I suspect his undoing will happen similarly but with a better, much more believable plot.
His undoing might not happen at all, because G. R. R. Martin is likely too smart to finish the series. He knows that there is no possible satisfactory ending to so long and sprawling a saga. Maybe he'll publish The Winds of Winter, and maybe Baelish will meet his end in that, but Martin will never finish volume 7. To be honest, I lean towards saying that there won't be another volume in the series at this point - it's been almost 10 years, and there have been two volumes in the last two decades. A couple of days ago, he announced that House of the Dragon is coming out in 2021 or 2022, so he's delayed work on Winds of Winter again.

If it does happen, I agree that Baelish's downfall will again be getting hoist by his own petard, but likely in a more detailed and nuanced way.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
I doubt Denis is serious anyway :)
I have a hard time trusting Canadians since they reelected that two-faced tool.
Quebec and Toronto is what got the election back in favour of Trudeau (AKA. the crime-minister as some of my friends like to call him lol). The conservatives (which is Canadian for Republican) won the majority vote as well as every province West of Ontario
 
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Robert Baratheon

Guest
His undoing might not happen at all, because G. R. R. Martin is likely too smart to finish the series. He knows that there is no possible satisfactory ending to so long and sprawling a saga. Maybe he'll publish The Winds of Winter, and maybe Baelish will meet his end in that, but Martin will never finish volume 7. To be honest, I lean towards saying that there won't be another volume in the series at this point - it's been almost 10 years, and there have been two volumes in the last two decades. A couple of days ago, he announced that House of the Dragon is coming out in 2021 or 2022, so he's delayed work on Winds of Winter again.

If it does happen, I agree that Baelish's downfall will again be getting hoist by his own petard, but likely in a more detailed and nuanced way.
I do think that Winter is (finally)coming this year or next year. There's been some recent developments that hint at it.
But I don't think that A Dream of Springs will ever come unless he lives to 90 or something with good enough health.
And if by some miracle Dream does come I don't see how he can end it satisfactorily with just 2 books from now even if those 2 books have 3000 manuscript pages as he claims. It's just too damn big.

I suppose he can finish it but the writing will have to be very unlike his own and it won't make sense coz we have seen almost all plots being progressed with a lot of planning and details and rushing all of a sudden will feel like injustice to the epic that it is.

Though I do hope against all hope that something or someone puts some sense in his mind and he gets back to writing it like he did in the 1990s.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
I do think that Winter is (finally)coming this year or next year. There's been some recent developments that hint at it.
But I don't think that A Dream of Springs will ever come unless he lives to 90 or something with good enough health.
And if by some miracle Dream does come I don't see how he can end it satisfactorily with just 2 books from now even if those 2 books have 3000 manuscript pages as he claims. It's just too damn big.

I suppose he can finish it but the writing will have to be very unlike his own and it won't make sense coz we have seen almost all plots being progressed with a lot of planning and details and rushing all of a sudden will feel like injustice to the epic that it is.

Though I do hope against all hope that something or someone puts some sense in his mind and he gets back to writing it like he did in the 1990s.
I'm disappointed at his lack of commitment. :cautious:
 

J B

Semi-Pro
I doubt Denis is serious anyway :)
I have a hard time trusting Canadians since they reelected that two-faced tool.
Well they might just take more injury timeouts which is the one thing stopping me from really liking them. Maybe the should find the arsonists the loss of revenue
 

Whisper

Rookie
Fingers crossed Shappo and other new gen clowns withdraw. They add nothing to the game. They are so dumb on the court it’s ruining tennis.
 

Drob

Professional
This feels a bit "snowflakey" to me. It's not like they are playing outdoors all day for weeks at a time. He has to know that on some level the tournament officials understand that without players there would be no tournament. Maybe officials are pushing the limits, but that's their choice. Perhaps he's never been to Hong Kong, Kolkata, Mexico City or countless other cities where people live in crap air conditions their whole lives. He doesn't want to play, no problem, just pull out before the tournament begins to give another player the choice.
I lived in Mexico City. On certain days warnings are issued about physical activity, not often, but under certain conditions, usually "heat inversions" in winter. But I believe smoke inhalation is worse for the human body, and more debilitatiing, in the immediate term at least, than normal city "pollution". If it continues to rain they'll get through it somehow. But if winds shift, it could make air conditions unplayable. I would have decided the other way - cancel the tournament. But almighty greed rules all decisions these days.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
This feels a bit "snowflakey" to me. It's not like they are playing outdoors all day for weeks at a time. He has to know that on some level the tournament officials understand that without players there would be no tournament. Maybe officials are pushing the limits, but that's their choice. Perhaps he's never been to Hong Kong, Kolkata, Mexico City or countless other cities where people live in crap air conditions their whole lives. He doesn't want to play, no problem, just pull out before the tournament begins to give another player the choice.
So here then is a third worlder's perspective. Do you know that pollution in Delhi due to stubble burning and winter smog last year got so bad that schools had to declare leaves? Even construction work was temporarily stopped and a general advisory to stay indoors was issued.

There are layers and layers of pollution. When they say air quality is in the severe zone, it really does mean severe. People wear masks to protect themselves and these masks have been seen turning dark in days due to the pollution. There is a level beyond which people cannot cope. Some have to but do so only because they are dirt poor and/or work for inhuman employers. There is absolutely no need for tennis to follow the latter example. The world won't end if there is no Australian Open this year. If the tournament cannot promise a safe environment for ALL players and not just the ones who bring in the big bucks, they should not hold it this year. They have already let down qualifiers by making them play outdoors so when Nadal says he trusts them, he can only speak for himself.
 
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