This French Open is too cold (8° C)

taster

New User
i moan about the weather most days, just because some of the players have unbelievable wealth doesn't mean they stop being human, christ, maybe one of them will get angry and smash a raquet, can you imagine that? not being permanently happy with everything, why the very thought!
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
She's right to complain, the French open has a history of not giving a single s*** when it comes to the players health. Remember that one year when it was raining but they were so far behind the schedule that they forced players to play in the rain? Yeah.
 

taster

New User
do you think it's because the French are inherently bad, or some other reason? i'm trying to think of another reason, but i can't.
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
do you think it's because the French are inherently bad, or some other reason? i'm trying to think of another reason, but i can't.
It's because the organisers at the slam are too cheap or afraid to inject serious money to upgrade one of the biggest tournaments on the tour. How long did it take them to get a roof? How many years did play end at 7PM because they had no lights? How many times have they had rain delays and nowhere for the spectators to go to shield themselves from the rain? How many scheduling conflicts and delays have they been unable to sort out on different courts because they have absolutely no foresight about the weather? How many players have been forced to play in rain or poor conditions because of all of it?
 

taster

New User
It's because the organisers at the slam are too cheap or afraid to inject serious money to upgrade one of the biggest tournaments on the tour. How long did it take them to get a roof? How many years did play end at 7PM because they had no lights? How many times have they had rain delays and nowhere for the spectators to go to shield themselves from the rain? How many scheduling conflicts and delays have they been unable to sort out on different courts because they have absolutely no foresight about the weather? How many players have been forced to play in rain or poor conditions because of all of it?
a lot of questions there, sorry i don't have an answer to any of them, but i have a feeling they are rhetorical, so i'll just say 'a lot' to all of them.
I can answer the question 'do we have freewill?, and let's face it, it's a more important question.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
You play the ball as it lies. Federer in 2006 in his best year had to play Nadal when it was 37 C and the ball was bouncing 15 feet up on his backhand side. Not to mention the hurricane they played in last year.
Totally fraudulent conditions true.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Everyone has their own preferences as far playing temperatures go, and 8°C (46°F for the Americans) is definitely where many begin to feel uncomfortable.

This is just like people who go "oh you think X degrees is too cold/hot? that's very nice weather here"
From playing at 40 F (no wind luckily) the ball just seems dead, 46 F and lower is getting low. But this is nonsense as it will never drop below 55F in the evening. If rain forces starts before 11 a.m. that might get below 50F cold.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
From playing at 40 F (no wind luckily) the ball just seems dead, 46 F and lower is getting low. But this is nonsense as it will never drop below 55F in the evening. If rain forces starts before 11 a.m. that might get below 50F cold.
It is not just the cold, but the combination of cold, light drizzle and wind combined with night-time humidity that made the conditions on Sunday tough. I think the forecast is to have a few more rainy, windy days in the next two weeks and I don’t think any of the top seeds would want to play night matches in those conditions.

I play tennis outdoors at night in the mid-high forties in California in Dec/Jan, but we usually don’t have wind and rain and so, it is bearable.
 

van_Loederen

Professional
such low temperature has become very rare in recent years, around that time of year in central Europe.

then again, already since March it has been clearly colder overall than in recent years.
in other places of the world, record high temperatures were reported, so it's just a local thing.

early October was far from safe for planning an outdoor clay event, but now even bad luck joined.

it is still possible that it will get a lot better around next week. autumn is patchy.
 

dje31

Professional
And yet, Ralph was still dripping sweat as if they were playing in Dubai in July. He should see a doc about that.
 

Ocean Drive

Hall of Fame
Heater in the stadium? That is a bit far. I have played and done sport in much colder conditions. I can't stand artificial heat, it's quite insufferable. I love that fresh air!

Not ideal conditions, but some sort of top underneath your match top should be enough. Wearing leggings etc is crazy.
 

Wilhelm

Professional
Last Sunday I had the captain of our opposing team cancel all matches because "it's not tennis weather". Our ladies team played that day.

Yeah, it's chilly in Europe, but come on! Some people don't like the heat, some have issues with the cold, but get on with it.
 

Demented

Semi-Pro
Heater in the stadium? That is a bit far. I have played and done sport in much colder conditions. I can't stand artificial heat, it's quite insufferable. I love that fresh air!

Not ideal conditions, but some sort of top underneath your match top should be enough. Wearing leggings etc is crazy.
I don't think they mind playing in the cold.. it's the risk of stiff muscle injuries and the fact that the ball doesn't bounce. They should have a cold weather ball available with extra air pressure and less weight. The problem is just so rare.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
These are not ideal conditions by a long stretch, but come on now, these highly trained and coached athletes should man up and adjust their routine and game plan accordingly.

I mean, I remember playing amateur rugby in a 5 degrees celcius temperature, on a frozen pitch, and that's a sport where one hits the deck dozens of times during the course of a game.

On another note, there was a joker on this board, which I assume to be part of the Rafa Brigade, who was adamant that the playing conditions in Paris in October would be better than in May. Shame I can't see him on this thread.
 
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Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
These are not ideal conditions by a long stretch, but come on now, these highly trained and coached athletes should man up and adjust their routine and game plan accordingly.

I mean, I remember playing amateur rugby in a 5 degrees celcius temperature, on a frozen pitch, and that's a sport where one hits the deck dozens of times during the course of a game.

On another note, there was a joker on this board, which I assume to be part of the *************, who was adamant that the playing conditions in Paris in October would be better than in May. Shame I can't see him on this thread.
Ah, I remember those claims. The guy/girl must have never visited during this time of the year.

:cool:
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
Ah, I remember those claims. The guy/girl must have never visited during this time of the year.

:cool:
Precisely. But he was really good at explaining how the weather patterns in Colorado were relevant to those in Paris in May vs. October. Me, I just remember freezing my butt in October, and sitting on a terrace with my sunglasses on in May.
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
They should have heater in the stadium.


Yahoo Sport Australia: 'You are joking': Controversy erupts over 'ridiculous' French Open farce.



Victoria Azarenka walked off court after just three games in her opening match at the French Open on Sunday, fuming over the ‘ridiculous’ conditions.

Roland Garros got underway in the chill and damp of Paris in Autumn on Sunday, with Azarenka walking off court complaining it was “too cold” to play.

The French Open, which was pushed back from its traditional May-June slot due to the coronavirus crisis, began in steady drizzle and temperatures struggling to reach 10 degrees.

It was all too much for Azarenka, 31, who left the almost deserted Court Suzanne Lenglen after just three games.

“I don’t see the point of sitting on the court when it's eight degrees,” fumed the two-time major winner.

On court she complained: “We are sitting like ducks. It’s too cold, it's eight degrees, I live in Florida.

“This is getting a little ridiculous. I'm not waiting,” she said before storming off to seek shelter.

She added: “You guys are joking right? You don't see what's happening? You guys are not playing, so you have no idea.

“It's raining for like 15 minutes and we're playing, who cares? You can't hold your racquet because it's so wet.”

She returned to complete a 6-1, 6-2 win, playing in black leggings and a tracksuit top.

“Does it increase the risk of players getting injured? Absolutely, I think that it does,” she added ahead of a week in which the cold, wet conditions are forecast to continue.

That echoed fears expressed by 12-time champion Rafael Nadal, who said the conditions combined with a new heavier ball could cause elbow and shoulder problems for players.

Azarenka regained her composure when the match resumed, even if she did complete it wearing clothes more associated with being at the snow.

“I am glad to get it finished so I can watch the others struggle in this weather and rain,” said Azarenka.

However American great Jim Courier wasn’t particularly impressed with Azarenka’s actions in commentary.

“I’d like them to have a better argument than: ‘I live in a place where it’s warm’,” the former World No.1 said.

“To be fair, I don’t think that was a particularly strong argument from Vika.

“I certainly understand the players’ trepidation about playing in conditions they deem are unsafe.

"But the fact they are playing all around the grounds doesn’t give a lot of credence to their argument.”

French Open gets underway in wintry conditions
On Court Simonne Mathieu, Belgian 16th seed Elise Mertens and Russia’s Margarita Gasparyan twice left the arena after also halting play due to the slippery conditions.

Despite the interruptions, play largely continued elsewhere at Roland Garros including on Philippe Chatrier under new the retractable roof.

The roof on the showpiece court has 11 metal and canvas sections, weighing 350 tons each for a total area of 10,000 square metres.

It can cover the sport’s most famous clay court in 15 minutes, while allowing air to pass through the sides.

The roof cost $64 million and brings the French Open into line with the other three majors.

It could play a key role with a dreary forecast for the first week, vastly different to the warmer conditions in the tournament's traditional May-June time slot.

The rain had cleared by the time 2015 champion Stan Wawrinka and Andy Murray walked out on to Philippe Chatrier.

Murray, playing his first clay court match since losing a five-set semi-final to the Swiss star in 2017, may have wished it had remained shut as 16th seed Wawrinka swept to a 6-1, 6-3, 6-2 win.

The 35-year-old fired 42 winners past wildcard Murray, now ranked at 111 in the world after being pushed to the brink of retirement by his lengthy battle with a hip injury.

“I should be analysing that hard and trying to understand why the performance was like that,” said 33-year-old Murray after his joint-worst defeat at a Slam.
As a Bielorrussian, she should be used to the cold.
 

Tennease

Legend
As a Bielorrussian, she should be used to the cold.

At age 15, Azarenka moved full-time to Scottsdale, Arizona, United States, from Minsk, Belarus, to train and live. In this she was aided by National Hockey League goalie Nikolai Khabibulin and his wife, who is a friend of Azarenka's mother.[6] In 2012, she became registered in Monaco but in August 2013 she purchased a large ocean-overlooking house as her principal residence where she lives in Manhattan Beach, California.[7] Azarenka is fluent in Belarusian, Russian, and English, and has some fluency in French and Ukrainian.
 
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