This is unacceptable

roysid

Hall of Fame
Espn Star sports is showing in India a doubles match just because one of the players is Indian, Mahesh Bhupathi whereas Federer 3rd round singles is going on.

No disrespect to Bhupathi, but Star Sports doesn't know that the tennis followers in India prefer to see game's biggest players (Federer, Nadal) in action when they are playing.
Here not many people follow tennis, and who ever follows sees it for tennis brilliance.

Now, how to contact them and give feedback. The presenters are Alan Wilkins and Vijay Amritraj who probably decide what match to show.
Anyone knows the email id/phone no..
 

makinao

Rookie
On day one, StarSports in South East Asia also showed the complete Mirza-Groenefeld match. I know Mirza is Asian and all, but by subjecting us Asians to this boring match, we missed the exciting rollercoaster first set of the Federer - Lu Yen-Hsun (who also happens to be Asian) match. Oh, and Mirza's present WTA singles ranking of 85 is LOWER than Lu Yen-Hsun's ATP ranking of 65.

Whoever makes the decisions in what to air live should be fired.
 

OTMPut

Hall of Fame
On day one, StarSports in South East Asia also showed the complete Mirza-Groenefeld match. I know Mirza is Asian and all, but by subjecting us Asians to this boring match, we missed the exciting rollercoaster first set of the Federer - Lu Yen-Hsun (who also happens to be Asian) match. Oh, and Mirza's present WTA singles ranking of 85 is LOWER than Lu Yen-Hsun's ATP ranking of 65.

Whoever makes the decisions in what to air live should be fired.
Agree. Mirza is one of the most boring, one dimensional player to watch. I cannot stand more than a game at a time.
 

Imaster

New User
This broadcasting is ridiculous!

Even though I am an Indian, I was actually hoping Mirza and Bhupati would lose in early rounds, so that we would not be tormented this way for the entire series.......

Show us Federer matches.............
 

theduh

Semi-Pro
Espn Star sports is showing in India a doubles match just because one of the players is Indian, Mahesh Bhupathi whereas Federer 3rd round singles is going on.

No disrespect to Bhupathi, but Star Sports doesn't know that the tennis followers in India prefer to see game's biggest players (Federer, Nadal) in action when they are playing.
Here not many people follow tennis, and who ever follows sees it for tennis brilliance.

Now, how to contact them and give feedback. The presenters are Alan Wilkins and Vijay Amritraj who probably decide what match to show.
Anyone knows the email id/phone no..
It's not bad to show Asians playing at Wimbledon but to cross over from the big names is not a good decision. I can't complaint that much because they are the only broadcaster across Asia who's showing Wimbledon live.

This exact same incident actually happened during the start of the broadcast, Sania was playing and they decided to show it first effectively missing some of the first set Roger played.
 

ferocious4hand

Semi-Pro
^^I meant if those players mentioned were to lose early then we'd get to watch other players more often.

ESPN and tennis channel focuses too much on American players/Sharapova
 

makinao

Rookie
This exact same incident actually happened during the start of the broadcast, Sania was playing and they decided to show it first effectively missing some of the first set Roger played.
As I said in an earlier post, the infuriating thing was that Roger was playing Lu Yen-Hsun, also Asian, and higher ranked in the ATP than Sania is in the WTA. That match was MUCH more interesting, specially that unbroadcast 1st set where the two exchanged breaks.
 

pennc94

Professional
I am watching the tight match between Tsonga and Karlovic on my computer. I got up to see what ESPN had on. They were showing a feature of Brad Gilbert and Darrin Cahill showing people how to hit swinging volleys and diving volleys on grass. You know, things that the typical tennis player does - swinging volleys? ahem. Diving? Oh yeah, so many people play on grass too. My point is that is was a nice light spot to show, but not during live tennis.
 

theduh

Semi-Pro
^^I meant if those players mentioned were to lose early then we'd get to watch other players more often.

ESPN and tennis channel focuses too much on American players/Sharapova
I'd think they will stop broadcasting tennis if those players are to loose early.
 

RobG

New User
Heck I'd be happier if ESPN would spend more time showing tennis and less time talking amongst themselves. Besides, they cut to commercial after almost every point. Thank God for DVR.

But speaking of the bigger names, I do agree. They were showing one of the Williams sisters playing, and then cut over to RF's center court game and they were already 4-1 in the first set. Sigh.

Rob
 

egn

Hall of Fame
^^here in the US, we're hoping Roddick, Blake, Williams, Maria would lose early to get decent coverage


I bolded who I want to lose. Not to be harsh but ESPN has to show women's tennis as they will be ridiculed if they did not so I pray the Williams sisters stay alive so at least I get an interesting tennis match and why hope Roddick loses, he actually is good on grass. Oh yea I am sorry lets watch another ****ing snooze fest like Giles Simon vs. Gael Monfils at least when Roddick plays someone it is interesting with his huge serve.

ESPN in america has shocked me it has been okay we have seen all the top dogs matches, they have also covered the good matches like they were covering Tsonga vs Karlovic this morning and they showed Levine's five setter, they have been giving a pretty good am mount of matches but then that is probably because both Blake and Maria lost all ready =]

Oh an to answer the why Maria question it is because for some reason ESPN in america is in love with Maria Sharapova and we see every match she is in cause they are convinced she is the greatest thing since Chris Evert.
 
Star Sports' coverage this Wimbledon has indeed been disappointing. I remember during the Australian Open, they'd start off with lower-ranked players' matches first (the ones whose matches began earlier), and THEN immediately switch over to Rod Laver arena when the big names came on court. They're not even doing that now - was trying to watch Federer-Kohli the other night and they were showing Djokovic instead, who had in fact already completed his match.
 

valiant

Hall of Fame
This broadcasting is ridiculous!

Even though I am an Indian, I was actually hoping Mirza and Bhupati would lose in early rounds, so that we would not be tormented this way for the entire series.......

Show us Federer matches.............
I was thinking the same. Every fed match starts at the end of first set on second set.:(
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
ESPN in Canada showed billiards on day one of the tournament. Billiards!
We don't even get ESPN.


I don'r know what you were watching but I was watching TSN on day 1

TSN has more than 100 hours of live coverage from the oldest and most-prestigious tennis tournament in the world, WIMBLEDON, beginning Monday, June 22 at 7 a.m. ET (10 a.m. ET on TSN2).

And they've been showing 10 hours of tennis every day. LIVE. Amazing coverage of tennis as usual considering the lack of popularity of the sport from the general public.
 

makinao

Rookie
StarSports in Asia also has about 10 hours of live Wimbledon (longer for US Open) daily (8pm to about 5am), and replays the same thing in the daytime. Its not the quantity, its the choice of which match to air that bugs me.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
This broadcasting is ridiculous!

Even though I am an Indian, I was actually hoping Mirza and Bhupati would lose in early rounds, so that we would not be tormented this way for the entire series.......

Show us Federer matches.............
Actually I am a big fan of Sania, but when she loses there's always the bright side that we'll see the higher ranked players.

Espn Star sports is showing in India a doubles match just because one of the players is Indian, Mahesh Bhupathi whereas Federer 3rd round singles is going on.

No disrespect to Bhupathi, but Star Sports doesn't know that the tennis followers in India prefer to see game's biggest players (Federer, Nadal) in action when they are playing.
Here not many people follow tennis, and who ever follows sees it for tennis brilliance.

Now, how to contact them and give feedback. The presenters are Alan Wilkins and Vijay Amritraj who probably decide what match to show.
Anyone knows the email id/phone no..
http://www.espnstar.com/feedback

I already wrote them at that very time
on their website espnstar.com, clck on Wimbledon and then Feedback. However. there's no way they will listen to you.

Also, please note that on Monday after the Bryan Bros match (1200 hrs) is the dubs match with an indian on both sides/ including Vijay's dear son Prakash. The match will be shown live at the same time as the Federer Soderling (1pm) match !!! DARNNNN !!!!

THeir last match went into five, cos Prakash etal could not close out matchpoints in set 3. DAMN its a best of FIVE here for dubs too.

Those gits also like to overdose us on Serena Williams for Christ's sake.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I might add, we will not only miss Federer Soderling on Monday but also Federer vs Verdasco/Karlo (assuming Fed wins) on Wednesday.

Since there is an indian on both sides on monday, so one will go through to Wed's match.

Looks like no Federer for us this WO :-(

Also, the next morning these guys replay the entire doubles match (whatever all they showed the prev night). Its not like they show the other / missed matches the next day.

IF these live streams were half decent, i would chuck ESPNStar and watch them.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
^^ Yes, the first match at 1300 hrs.

MORE BAD NEWS For singles fans:

There is also a MIXED DUBS match featuring my fav team Sania/Bhupathi vs Leander /Black.

This one starts "not before 1700". So if they show this one too, then its doubles day for us. No singles except for some WTA which they *have* to show, so we learn to appreciate the Williamses and Safina.

Since there are indians on both sides, of BOTH doubles matches, it seems they will keep coming on the Federer days till they lose.

Now I love Leander, and the Bhupathi/Sania combo, but to have to see them and miss out on Federer really really sucks.

Its not like there are many more years of Federer left, and its not like Slams come every month. We guys pay money to these channels to see the Slams, we pay to see the top seeds, not doubles matches at the expense of top seeds. Will ESPN Star get this.
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
Star Sports is under the great impression that every Indian is longing to see (just like cricket stars) Bhupathi, Mirza and co. playing doubles.
Whereas the truth is no one cares much about them playing doubles (unless it's a final). Indian tennis followers want to see
Federer, Nadal, Djokovic etc. in action.

Earlier there was some excitement about Sania when she reached 4th Round US Open in singles. People had some hopes. But now nothing, people know she will lose in 1st round or 2nd round in singles inevitably.

Bhupathi, Leander etc. doesn't even got one advertisement. Sania Mirza has some because of her good looks.
 

Imaster

New User
Today there are loads of exciting matches in Mens Singles
Federer - Soderling
Murray - Wawrinka
Roddick - Hewitt
etc...

Hell I don't even mind watching a bit of Williams - Ivanovic match

I hope ESPN Star Sports don't screw things up by showing doubles matches.......
 

Imaster

New User
Here are their contact numbers, I plan to call up at the office in my city, please do the same for your cities.....

http://www.startv.com/corporate/contact_us.htm

STAR Group Limited (Head Office)
8th Floor, One Harbourfront,
18 Tak Fung Street, Hunghom,
Kowloon, Hong Kong
Tel: (852) 2621 8888
Fax: (852) 2621 8000
Email: csmail@startv.com

New Delhi
1st Floor
Central Wing, Thapar House,
124 Janpath, New Delhi 110001,
India.
Tel: (91 11) 4249 4900
Fax: (91 11) 4104 9490
Email: response@in.startv.com
Website: http://www.indya.com/ and http://www.star.co.in/

Mumbai
STAR House, Off Dr. E. Moses Road,
Mahalaxmi,
Mumbai 400 011,
India
Tel: (91 22) 6630 5555
Fax: (91 22) 6630 5050
Email: response@in.startv.com
Website: http://www.indya.com/ and http://www.star.co.in/

Shanghai
No.186, North Shan Xi Road,
Shanghai 200041,
P.R.China.
Tel: (86) 21 6218 3298
Fax: (86) 21 6218 5208
Email: star@cn.startv.com

Beijing
908, Tower E3,
The Towers, Oriental Plaza, No.1, East Chang An Ave,
Dong Cheng District,
Beijing, 100738 China.
Tel: (86) 10 8518 8500
Fax: (86) 10 8518 8501
Email: star@cn.startv.com

Taipei
No. 73, Lane 72,
Guangfu S. Rd., Taipei, Taiwan.
Tel: (8862) 2741 8668
Fax: (8862) 2734 3000
Email: tw@tw.startv.com
Website: http://www.startv.com.tw/

Singapore
#27-02 Singapore Land Tower,
50 Raffles Place,
Singapore 048623.
Tel: (65) 6220 0369
Fax: (65) 6220 0973

Manila
2903B, West Tower,
Philippine Stock Exchange Tower,
Oritgas Centre Exchange Road,
Pasig City,
Philippines 1605.
Tel: (632) 637 0266
Fax: (632) 635 5026

Dubai
Boutique Office No.9,
P.O.Box: 502197,
Dubai Media City,
Dubai,
United Arab Emirates.
Tel: (971 4) 3912333
Fax: (971 4) 3664545 / 46
Email: star@ae.startv.com

ESPN STAR Sports
151 Lorong Chuan
#03-01 New Tech Park
Singapore 556741
Tel : (65) 6488 6500
Email : custserve@espnstar.com
Website : http://www.espnstar.com/

Phoenix Satellite TV
No. 2-6, Dai King Street
Tai Po Industrial Estate, Tai Po
NT, Hong Kong
Tel : (852) 2200 8888
Fax : (852) 2200 8899
Website : http://www.ifeng.com/
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Thanks for the links, I intend calling up the India contacts today.

WAIT: I clicked on the Channels buttons and it does not show Star Sports.

Anyway, this link is for ADVERTISING. It may be the wrong link. The correct link i believe is espnstar.com since that is what is shown from their programs too.
 
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Imaster

New User
Ok, after going through a lot of loops, I finally got hold of a guy sitting in New Delhi who says he is looking into the matter..........

please call him up, the more the voices, the more the chances of seeing the Federer match....


Star Sports Production House : Mr Nitin :- 012 44215800
 

Imaster

New User
There are no telephone numbers listed on the espnstar.com website, so I had to get the numbers from the corporate website instead.

No need to go anywhere, just call up here,

Star Sports Production House : Mr Nitin :- 012 44215800

Also, is it possible to get the title of this thread changed to something "Calling all Asians..." or something like that, we need more people to contact them........
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
After I get through to him (he was away from desk), i will start a new thread and give the details and put a link to this thread also.

Started a new thread with the contact:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=270855

Nitin is out to lunch, will keep trying him. Is he avoiding? can he really do anything.
Earlier they used to have emails to Vijay and Alan which used to be read out and answered. An emailid was given. Don;t see that any longer.
 
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theduh

Semi-Pro
Hope you guys are wrong, it's not bad watching doubles but if there are bigger names playing it's best if they'll just show them and have a rerun of the doubles match.
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
I called, not much success. Nitin wasn't there. One person told that Singapore decides (to pass the buck)

Friends, the change isn't so easy. Because matches to show are controlled by Star Sports studio at Wimbledon. Though the policy must have been made before.

When the match starts today and they do the crap, protests should be everywhere
in India/China/Taipei etc.

See the above numbers.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I've made several calls to Nitin who is not taking the calls. Some peon is taking the calls and say Nitin has left for the day. The rest of the staff is in London.

So basically there is not much that can be done. We likely will just have to watch doubles instead of Federer/Djokovic/Verdasco.

I actually tried to explain to the peon in Hindi what the problem was, but what can the poor chap do. I was expecting that Nitin may be sitting nearby not wanting to take any calls.

This is India for you, guys, the customer has to just suck it up. Meanwhile Vijai will be glad and proud that his son gets airing throughout the country ... sorry for being such an a*** but I am pissed.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Then the only option is for us to go back to the website and give feedback....

Yes, to some extent I see that the host nation tries to show you more of their own players. Like last FO, they showed too much of Alice Cornet.

Otherwise, i think its upto viewer nations to request that their own persons matches be aired for them. The Indian players doubles are only for INDIA as far as I know. The rest of Asia will get to see Federer et al.
 

Imaster

New User
The Indian players doubles are only for INDIA as far as I know. The rest of Asia will get to see Federer et al.
Funny that this should be controlled from Singapore office, if each country is getting to select its own matches, then shouldn't each country office get to make the selections themselves?

Also, I remember reading in some thread that the Sania Mirza match was being shown all over Asia (instead of the Federer - LU match, even though LU is an Asian, and that too, higher seeded than Mirza)
 

makinao

Rookie
Otherwise, i think its upto viewer nations to request that their own persons matches be aired for them. The Indian players doubles are only for INDIA as far as I know. The rest of Asia will get to see Federer et al.
I think we in South East Asia are seeing the same matches that you in India are seeing. I'll post from time to time tonight what matches are on, then we can compare notes.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I think we in South East Asia are seeing the same matches that you in India are seeing. I'll post from time to time tonight what matches are on, then we can compare notes.
When the dubs match was shown on Friday, it said something like "only for india" or indian viewers.
In earlier years, i recall them saying that they make a request to Wimbledon or whatever to show them a match with Sania in it, and sometimes they would get it, sometimes not. Sometimes they would get a taped copy and show it later.

So even though Asia may get to see the same, with Asian players if they are there, but I think in specific cases a country could make a request.

I am wondering how the livestreams get all these matches of all courts. Which are these countries which are showing all courts.??? I'd like to move there :)

Anyway, if you are NOT Indian, it would SUCK to have to see Paes and Bhupathi when Federer is on. We cannot complain, since we would look like unpatriotic, and unsporting etc etc. But no one can expect you guys to keep quiet. You have every right to take this up with ESPN.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Also, I remember reading in some thread that the Sania Mirza match was being shown all over Asia (instead of the Federer - LU match, even though LU is an Asian, and that too, higher seeded than Mirza)
There could be another reason for that. Fed's matches are being played first. And they always show 90 mins or 2 hours of ladies matches before switching to Mens. So they were showing their WTA quota. Within the WTA quota they may have opted to show Sania i/o some Russian or other player.

If Fed;s matches are starting at 1300 hours you can be sure that you will miss the first set each time :evil:
 

makinao

Rookie
I actually look forward watching top-level doubles, such as the Paes-Bhupathi team back when they were together and seeded in the draw, the Paes-Navratilova tandem, and the 2006 version Zheng Jie - Yan Zi pair. But this was at their peak when they were a force to reckon with, and they deserved the coverage because their matches were played at the highest level. In fact, today, I'd rather watch the Paes-Black vs Bhupathi-Mirza match than the Roddick-Berdych tussle. Paes-Black are after all seeded 1st, and anything that pits Paes against his ex-partner Bhupathi is at the very least intriguing. But nothing can come between me and a complete Federer vs Soderling coverage tonight.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Federer vs Soderling has begun but they are treating us to Azarenka screaming vs Petrova.
Such lucky sods we are!
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
They've moved to Haas Andreev since Petrova has a heat condition. Okay its not live, its a replay of the TB set 1.
 
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