this or that

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Bronx Bombers FTW!

Greatest single game NYY WS performance:

Don Larsen’s perfect game

or

Mr. October’s 3-pitch 3-HR Game 6 series clincher

(Both vs the Dodgers)

???
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
NYI

Worse owners of a sports team:

Two New York Clowns Combined

John Spano, Islanders, NHL

Lots of fans call the owners of their beloved yet losing franchises crooks. Islanders fans of the mid-1990s were factually correct.
Spano’s reign is often referred to as his "ownership,"in sarcastic quotes, but he did operate the team for about a year, from 1996 to ’97, before it became obvious that he didn’t have the money, or any wealth at all. He was forced out in July 1997 and later convicted and jailed twice for fraud.

James Dolan, Knicks, NBA
The Knicks went to the 1999 NBA Finals early in Dolan’s regime, then went into the toilet and have barely been back up since. The Charles Oakley mess still pales in comparison to the Isiah Thomas regime, when the ugly sexual harassment scandal played out and when the team became a true national joke.

~~~OR~~~

One Colossal Idiot in L.A.?

Donald Sterling, Clippers, NBA

A boil on theass of the American sports landscape for 30 years that took too long to get lanced. There were numerous, ongoing reasons for the NBA to yank the Clippers away from the slumlord real-estate magnate before his 2014 ban by commissioner Adam Silver, including putting a lousy product on the floor year after year while raking in his share of league profits.

The secretly-recorded racist ramblings that had sponsors bailing out and his players threatening to boycott playoff games only served as the last straw. Sterling still fought to the last breath before selling the team.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/list/worst-owners-sports-history-james-dolan-donald-sterling-george-steinbrenner/1bdbjy1vpwidp1iimeqvsvs6c5
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Dodgy Sterling

Donald Sterling once told Tom Tolbert he had size and strength to “compete with the blacks”
f the best radio in the Bay Area comes from stories about a team in Los Angeles. Tom Tolbert spent only one year with the Clippers, but the 1993-94 season has provided over a decade of material.

Most of the stories pertain to how cheap the organization was. For example, the team held practices at the YMCA, and Tolbert once had to run over to the restroom to get a handful of granulated, powdery hand soap to wash himself with because the team didn’t feel the need to supply the showers with soap of any kind (or towels). Since the Clippers finished 27-55 that year, Tolbert also has plenty of anecdotes about the team (which also included Mark Jackson, Ron Harper, Mark Aguirre, Danny Manning and Dominique Wilkins) collectively not giving a crap.

The recorded comments made by Donald Sterling and subsequently published by TMZ and Deadspin alerted a new generation of fans and players to something we all either knew or should’ve known all along — the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers is a racist scumbag. Tolbert is wondering what took everyone so long, and today KNBR’s afternoon drive time host mentioned a specific instance when Sterling made Tolbert uncomfortable for a variety of reasons.
Story transcribed by @LOLKNBR:
“People know how I feel about him who have listened to any portion of the radio show over the last 16 years. He’s a BOOB, is what he is. He’s a racist. He’s a bigot. I was just shocked that more people either didn’t know, or feigned that they didn’t know. I thought that was common knowledge.
“I always felt like he treated players as commodities. When he introduced me at a golf tournament — you know, sponsors are there and stuff — I had just signed that year and he brings me up there and he introduced me to the people and he starts grabbing my arm, like, ‘This is our new power forward, look at how big and strong he is.’
“And he was testing my biceps and shoulders and my back. And like he tells me how big and strong I am, and he said, ‘You’re big and strong. You’ll be able to compete with the blacks.’ And I was like, ‘What?’ I wasn’t even sure I had heard it right. Like, ‘What are you talking about?’
“I wanted zero, ZERO to do with him when I was there.”
As if there wasn’t already enough evidence that Sterling considered himself somewhat of a modern day slave master. Just thinking about Tolbert standing in front of a bunch of people, with the man who paid for his services poking and prodding him while referring to NBA players as if they were different breeds of livestock, is 100-octane cringe fuel.
http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/donald-sterling-tom-tolbert-youll-be-able-to-compete-with-the-blacks/

Los Angeles Dodgers



~~~ OR ~~~

New York Yankees?


 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
If Federer plays Wimbledon, he'll probably want to finish the slam season. Basel is in late October, so that seems possible. If he's playing great and thinks he has a chance to win the WTF, I could see him finishing there, but my money is on Basel.

Since @Rafa.the.Magnificent probably didn't like the football result, I'll honor New Orleans:

"A Streetcar Named Desire"


~~~or~~~

"The House of the Rising Sun"?
 
Now you talk about weirdness...connectedness, and more! Earlier today I wanted to put a line in from A Streetcar Named Desire into the movie scene thread, and I googled some lines and came up with a link to the entire play. I began reading it, and never stopped until I was finished. Then I come and see this thread a few minutes ago! Wow! And yeah, damn those Saints, they blew it! But I can’t understand some fans. I read that the Pats got booed today....I just can’t imagine booing that team after all they have given to their fans! Anyway, coming here just now has given me a good chuckle.

I have to leave it to someone else to reply to the last this or that as I know of neither character.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
“I’m the king around here!” FTW


Brando as

Don Corleone

or

Kurtz

???
Corleone for a more professional and iconic performance, but Kurtz for the madness.

Hollywood Reporter:
Since Brando — like co-star Dennis Hopper, who shunned showers and reeked from cocaine abuse — couldn't memorize a single line (yet gave an immortal performance), Coppola recorded Brando improvising for five days, typed up Brando's insightful ramblings along with snatches of Heart of Darkness, put the lines on tape and gave the 300-pound actor an earphone, so he could press a button and recite what he heard. "He didn't have a good memory, that's why he'd say, 'Uh... uh...' and push the button," said Coppola.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/telluride-francis-ford-coppola-spills-729281

Drunken Performance:

Liam Gallagher stopped drinking on stage after 2000 Oasis Wembley gig
The Shockwave singer has revealed his drunk antics with Oasis at Wembley in 2000 caused him to lay off alcohol during his live performances.
Liam Gallagher has revealed his drunken performance Oasis' famous set at Wembley Stadium, which took place from 21-22 July 2000, made him quite drinking heavily on stage.

"I’ve not drank booze on stage since that famous Wembley gig. Remember that one where it all went a bit…"

He added: "Apparently people like that kind of thing but now I steer clear of all of that, do you know what I mean? It’s just water man, stuff like that. Every now and again, it depends if it’s a short gig, I might have a little cheeky tequila just to get the party started. "

Asked whether he'd have a few drinks before going on back in the day, Gallagher quipped: "And the rest, yeah," adding: "I think as you get older though, you just can’t do it, can you?

"When you’re 20 and that, you can do what you want. I used to smoke ganja on stage and everything. But now, I’d end up singing Taylor Swift songs, you know what I mean, forget what band I’m in.
https://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/liam-gallagher/stopped-drinking-stage-after-oasis-manchester-gig/

Oasis Wembley 2000 (2nd night)

~~~ OR ~~~

The Doors' Jim Morrison (1970)?

MANZAREK: We're in Miami. It's hot and sweaty. It's a Tennessee Williams night. It's a swamp and it's a yuck - a horrible kind of place, a seaplane hangar - and 14,000 people are packed in there, and they're sweaty, and Jim has seen The Living Theatre and he's going to do his version of The Living Theatre in front of - this is the first time he's been home.

He was born in Melbourne, Florida. This is his - virtually his hometown and he's going to show these Florida people what psychedelic West Coast shamanism and confrontation is all about.

He takes his shirt off in the middle of the set and says, you know, you people haven't come to hear a rock and roll - he's drunk as a skunk, and he didn't tell any of us what he was going to do. If only he have told somebody. He said you didn't come to hear a rock and roll band play some pretty good songs. What you came - you came to see something, didn't you? And they're all going - errrrrrrr.

He said what's you come to see? You came to see something that you've never seen before, something greater than you've ever seen. What do you want? What can I do for you? And the audience is going like this, you know, that's how the audience, it's just rumbling and rumbling. And he said OK, how about if I show you my - and all the audience goes screaming crazy.

It was like madness, and Jim takes his shirt off, holds it in front of him, reaches behind it and starts fiddling around down there, and you wonder what is he doing. And I'm thinking, oh God, he's going to take it off. And the audience is getting crazier and crazier. And then Jim whips the shirt out to the side, he said did you see it, did you see it? Look, I just showed it to you. Watch, I'm going to show it to you. Now, keep your eyes on it folks and he whips it out.

INTERVIEWER: And then you say he said to the audience, come closer, come on down here. Get with us, man.

MANZAREK: Oh, yeah, yeah. Come on, yeah, oh, come on. Sure, come on. Join us. Join us on stage. And eventually, the - sure, and they started coming on a rickety little stage, and the entire stage collapsed. Sure.

It's chaos. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's rock and roll. It's madness. It's the end of Western civilization. Dionysus has come back from 2,000, 3,000 years ago. He has called forth the snakes. The people have had a mass hallucination. They've rushed the stage trying to get their hands on Dionysus to rip and tear him apart, and I played. I played the riot. John and Robby left the stage, and I just played screaming, crunching organ all over the place.

So why not treat it as a theatrical event, you know? But we're going to get in serious trouble, and sure enough within a week Jim had been arrested, he had been charged with indecent exposure, public profanity, open profanity, public drunkenness, lewd and lascivious behavior, and - and they read this in court - and simulation of oral copulation. In the courtroom, the audience is going ehhhhhh, judge going order in the court, order in the court here. And once they read that in court, I knew it was a total fiasco because he had never done it. He didn't do it.

https://www.npr.org/2013/05/24/185827139/remembering-ray-manzarek-keyboardist-for-the-doors

The Doors Miami 1969
 
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Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.


The History of the Margarita
By Lisa Bramen
SMITHSONIAN.COM
MAY 5, 2009

Today marks Cinco de Mayo, which commemorates the Mexican victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla in 1862. In Mexico, the observance is not as important as the nation's independence day, September 16. But, just as St. Patrick's Day is a much bigger deal to Irish expatriates and their descendants than it is in Ireland, Cinco de Mayo festivities have become a popular way for Mexican-Americans to celebrate their cultural heritage.

Cinco de Mayo or not, it's always a good time to toast one of Mexico's most beloved exports, the margarita. In its classic form—tequila, lime juice and Cointreau or Triple Sec, served in a glass with a salted rim—it is a perfect combination of sweet, salty, sour and bitter.

As with so many popular things, more than one person has claimed to have invented the margarita. One of the most prevalent stories is that Carlos "Danny" Herrera developed the drink at his Tijuana-area restaurant, Rancho La Gloria, around 1938. As the legend goes, Herrera dreamed up the cocktail for one of his customers, an aspiring actress named Marjorie King who was allergic to all hard alcohol other than tequila. To make the liquor more palatable to his fussy client, he combined the elements of a traditional tequila shot—a lick of salt and a wedge of lime—and turned them into a refreshing drink.

Another top contender for the inventor title is Margarita Sames, a wealthy Dallas socialite who claimed she whipped up the drink for friends at her Acapulco vacation home in 1948. Among her well-connected guests was Tommy Hilton, who eventually added the drink to the bar menu at his hotel chain.

According to The Complete Book of Spirits by Anthony Dias Blue, though, the first importer of Jose Cuervo in the United States advertised with the tagline, "Margarita: it's more than a girl's name," in 1945, three years before Sames claimed to have invented the drink.

In contrast to the fuzzy genesis of the cocktail, the origin of a machine that helped simplify the making of one of its many forms is well documented. In 2005, Smithsonian's National Museum of American History acquired the world's first frozen margarita machine, invented in 1971 by Dallas restaurateur Mariano Martinez.

Cocktail fads may come and go, but the margarita's popularity has remained steady since its invention, whenever and wherever that was.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/the-history-of-the-margarita-57990212/




Margarita, Daiquiri, Mojito, or Piña Colada?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Genoa FTW! They don’t get the press for being the real reason to visit the area instead of nearby Torino.

Failed American 70s brands of autos named after Ronantic sounding cities:

Chrysler Córdoba

or

Ford Torino

???
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
I had to look these up. According to Wiki, pretty much all the Torinos have disintegrated by now, so I'll go with the Chrysler.

"Crystals"

"Heart of Glass"

~~~or~~~

"The Crystal Ship"?
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Not a “get off my lawn” Clint Eastwood fan?:

I am familiar with the film, but this doesn't sound good:

The lack of popularity and the low numbers of Torinos in existence today is likely due to the Torino's durability issues that caused low survivability. Torinos had serious problems with chassis and body corrosion as well as having a less-than-perfect reliability record. In areas where severe winters exposed these cars to road salt, Torinos were reported to have major rust problems within the first 5 years of ownership. To further worsen the corrosion problems, 1969–1973 Torinos were reported to have severe paint-peeling problems. As a result, Torinos had the lowest resale value of any of the American intermediate cars in the 1970s used-car market.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Torino

More iconic car:

James Bond's 1964 Aston Martin DB5 or Steve McQueen's 1968 Ford Mustang Fastback?



 
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