tomaskei123
New User
looks like someone is out of the run for sportsmanship award
Thomas Berdych booed by Melbourne crowd!!!!!
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Agree. but the "Handshake" is something of a sacred ritual in history of tennis. It is said to signify the fact that Players will try to kill each other during the tennis match, but as soon as the match is Over, you are best of friends and still enjoy each other's company. So if someone refuses to shake hands, that means you are saying "I hate you" and that is not acceptable in tennis.
He was out ten years ago.
HEADfamilydynasty
Rookie
Not to start an argument, But i get hit all the time and i don't whine about it.
Unless someones headhunting there's nothing wrong with pegging someone.
Ever play a game called suicide. its basically handball but you catch then throw. if you drop the ball or miss the wall you get pegged with the handball. i've seen elementary school kids pegged harder than berdych, but they never cried about it. :neutral:
Marius_Hancu
Talk Tennis Guru
It's skipped for years in order to show that one takes exception with the sportsmanship of the other guy. Why curry favor with him? Teach him manners. Mark him down as a poor sport, even if you take the risk of getting that label yourself in the process.
Yes, put the **hole down publicly, as he deserves. Including if it's Lendl.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
It was so funny what Berdych did was so funny though. He kind of waved off Almagro like " yea yea.. go away,,shuuu"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTTONssuiw
vsdtrek
Semi-Pro
Poppycock.
You are a blind, fanatic, delusional Berdych-stan.
Good video link showing the severe impact of the shot. Luckily that ball didn't shatter his arm into several pieces. :wink:
What a pansy. It's not like he was shot with a hollow-point 9mm. Almagro made a legit play on a key point and attempted to apologize after that. I even joined in booing Berd as I watched his post-match on TV.
Li Ching Yuen
Legend
I find it ****ing hilarious how everyone is so sensitive about the "handshake" as an act in tennis given the amount of time wasting, illegal MTOs, coaching, and umpire performance art numbers present in the game that are far more important and actually DO have a bearing on the outcome of a match.
Some from guys that win Sportmanship awards even.
Some from guys that win Sportmanship awards even.
Dear oh dear. This site has some real unintentional crack ups.
dekko1
Semi-Pro
Again to you, Marius, you are saying Almagro lacks sportsmanship, he did what was on his right to do. Maybe he did go to hit him as way to get him off his game, or maybe just to win the point. Who cares, a yellow fluffy ball will not hurt him.
Have you ever watched hockey??? Stanley Cup playoffs, have you ever seen anyone not shaking hands after a series?? or crying, "oh he hit me hard, I lost a tooth, booo him".
I love the way Berdych play, he was one of my favorite current players, but this baby-like attitude was poor.
I'd love if Nadal hits him on the next round.
tacou
G.O.A.T.
Berdych seems to have no sense of tennis history, saying this play is "not done in tennis." Not done as much recently, but it's a fair and legal play.
What bothered me most about it, as someone who doesn't like Nico at all, was that after being pegged he won 5 points in a row to hold serve, then went on to dominate the tiebreak. As the announcers all agreed, that's the ultimate revenge.
I agree it's not some huge controversy but it does show you that Berdych is immature/somewhat of a drama queen, to hold such a grudge over a perfectly normal play.
What bothered me most about it, as someone who doesn't like Nico at all, was that after being pegged he won 5 points in a row to hold serve, then went on to dominate the tiebreak. As the announcers all agreed, that's the ultimate revenge.
I agree it's not some huge controversy but it does show you that Berdych is immature/somewhat of a drama queen, to hold such a grudge over a perfectly normal play.
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Deleted member 21996
Guest
Almagro is know to be a complete doosh. his episodes in costa do Sauipe 2009 are the worst example of sportsman conduct i heard of, and yet Thomas is being vilified for not shaking the hand with a complete moron? This is not saying that Almagro did anything wrong by going to the body shot...
How many of you have not shaken hands due to hatred? If you get hit, it hurts, on a shot like that, even so, he is supposed to shake hands no matter what the other punk does. It's a punk move to hit someone, and it's a punk move to refuse the shake: punk gets more punk. Cheat: no shake. Hit: no shake. Lie: no shake. Ball hits you and you deny it: no shake. Call your opp. for foot faults: no shake. Pull ****ty cheap psyches: no shake. Taunting: no shake. Gloat screams: no shake. Insults/name calling: frame fight.
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Deleted member 3771
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..and no one has to like him.
Terrible sportsmanship by the bird man. Bird man should not come anywhere near the net if he doesnt want the ball coming anywhere near him.
I take it the bird man never plays doubles.
Terrible sportsmanship by the bird man. Bird man should not come anywhere near the net if he doesnt want the ball coming anywhere near him.
I take it the bird man never plays doubles.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
The handshake is an ancient greeting that establishes that you have no ill will towards that person. Imagine meeting someone and having them refuse to shake your hand after the meeting has concluded despite no illegal action on your part. In business negotiations deals have fallen through over limp handshakes, let alone complete refusal.
It seems like Berdych is taking this way too personally. As mentioned before it happens all the time in doubles. You just have to have your racquet ready to play the ball. Not whince like a baby and then lie down on the floor as if you just got shot with a 12 gauge. Its reminiscent of a soccer player faking an injury to try and get a card put on the other player. FAKE! 
I also guess Berdych never took group lessons as a kid: When our side lost in a mini match we were told to stand *** backwards on the bass line while the opposing team served tennis balls at us! LOL
I also guess Berdych never took group lessons as a kid: When our side lost in a mini match we were told to stand *** backwards on the bass line while the opposing team served tennis balls at us! LOL
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Deleted member 25923
Guest
Apart from this incident and the one in Madrid, what else has Berdych really done to paint him as an a-hole? From what I've seen of him (barring these two incidents), he's been a generally nice guy.
Almagro (who I can't stand) was absolutely NOT in the wrong. He was trying to win a point. He was drawn into the forecourt where Berdych was. He chose where to hit the ball. BErdych could have moved to his left or right. He didn't. It took place in a split second. This wasn't an easy sitter for Almagro where he had several options. Almagro held up his hand indicating he was sorry that his shot hit Berdych.
Bedych was an absolute *** after the match. Claiming Almagro deliberately was trying to hit him in the face. Hello Tomas, the ball hit you in the arm!
Berdych has always been one of the biggest crybabies int he sport. He cemented that reputation.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Amen. And he's friends with a lot of the Czech NHL players - can you imagine what they think of him today? LOL!
@MLB_MOB: our sport is different - we have tradition. If LeBron James wants to run to the locker room like a little girl after another FAILURE, that's fine. This is tennis. We shake hands to show Respect.
Yes you do because it's traditional. In other sports like basketball,football or hockey, players shake hands(even gave hug) after a playoff series is over. If you don't, you are consider a sore loser, bitter thus deserve a loud boos from the crowd.
FlamEnemY
Hall of Fame
And even if it were intentional Almagro still would have been totally right to make this shot.
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
i agree about some people on here being over the top. but that's just the way the board is.
personally, i don't mind berdych not shaking hands. he was basically saying, "i don't like you. we ain't friends. and we ain't ever gonna be friends." obviously, (rightly or wrongly) he thought there was malice involved. and he didn't appreciate it.
the other day after the tomic-dolgo incident, someone said in a thread (that got deleted) that he was surprised dolgo shook tomic's hand after the match, and i kinda was too. cos it's a way of showing respect to someone. and why grant someone that gesture if they've behaved shadily? i don't shake hands with people i don't respect.
and if almagro meant to hit him, (and it's his right cos it's a legit play) then why raise your racquet up and say "sorry"? i can't stand that sh*t. just hit the guy and walk back to the baseline for the next point. why say sorry for something you meant to do? that's like someone taking a swing at me and then saying "just kidding" afterwards. uh . . . but you weren't kidding.
personally, i don't mind berdych not shaking hands. he was basically saying, "i don't like you. we ain't friends. and we ain't ever gonna be friends." obviously, (rightly or wrongly) he thought there was malice involved. and he didn't appreciate it.
the other day after the tomic-dolgo incident, someone said in a thread (that got deleted) that he was surprised dolgo shook tomic's hand after the match, and i kinda was too. cos it's a way of showing respect to someone. and why grant someone that gesture if they've behaved shadily? i don't shake hands with people i don't respect.
and if almagro meant to hit him, (and it's his right cos it's a legit play) then why raise your racquet up and say "sorry"? i can't stand that sh*t. just hit the guy and walk back to the baseline for the next point. why say sorry for something you meant to do? that's like someone taking a swing at me and then saying "just kidding" afterwards. uh . . . but you weren't kidding.
Absolutely. Almagro has the right to hit anywhere on the court, whether if it's an easy sitter or on the run. If the apponent don't want to get hit, then back off, he doesn't own the court.
Berdych is a two-faced...I'm sure if he was in a same position he would try to get the ball in regardless if he end up hitting his apponent.
seattle_1hander
Rookie
Berdych should not have been such a little wimp. ALMAGRO WENT TO APOLOGIZE. I guess everyone here are such wimps that they actually would have been offended if someone hits them. Grow up girls. If a guy nails me, even with a sitter ball that he could direct elsewhere (not the case here) I'd still like him and respect him as a competitor. I'd let it go that fast. Some of you were breast-fed too long I guess and don't want bad things happening to you ever. Getting hit doesn't necessarily mean the other guys a punk. So I guess none of you would blame Berdych if he wanted to do something to retaliate. He pretty much did the right thing, play harder and win. That's the retaliation. Taking it to little girl mode by not shaking hands or giving him the silent treatment or talking about how fat she is getting is such crap. Berdych is scum.
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
Could you explain what happened in the Almagro incident? I never heard about this. I remember someone saying he stopped a fellow pro from giving out their own broken racquet to a fan during practice which made me consider him a pr1ck from then on.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
He's usually pretty thick-skinned when it comes to the crowd, similar to Soderling.
I hope the Aussie crowd doesn't ruin a potentially great match.
I wanna see Berdych "throw down" against Nadal, BG style. :lol:
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
You're one of the most solid posters here - but 100% wrong on comparing these two events. Not even remotely the same. Tomic stole a point; Nico hit a shot on the run that hit his opponent.
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
No it's not. The handshake is about peaceful competition , it's respect to good spirited contests between rivals, which is what Sport is about. The handshake makes You respectable way more than who's hand you shake and if withdrawn it damages You more rather than whom you refused.
Li Ching Yuen
Legend
In this match, Almagro got a MTO for a neck massage right after Berdych had broken his serve for the first time in 2 hours.
Needless to say, he got the break back in a matter of minutes. And of course no one talks about the incessant and disturbing language in that set where he was getting aced left and right.
I'm actually a fan of Almagro, of his tennis to be more precise, but pretty much everyone knows that he is the tour's imbecile. And that's one of the reasons he is hated on a level that only Bogomolov could contend with in regards to the challenger level.
You ever wonder why Almagro never gets called in the Davis Cup team?...Even in those ties with no Nadal, the number 3 Spanish player in the world (and a top 10er for almost a year now) is simply ignored.
Go figure why.
It was intentional, not that that changes things very much.
Needless to say, he got the break back in a matter of minutes. And of course no one talks about the incessant and disturbing language in that set where he was getting aced left and right.
I'm actually a fan of Almagro, of his tennis to be more precise, but pretty much everyone knows that he is the tour's imbecile. And that's one of the reasons he is hated on a level that only Bogomolov could contend with in regards to the challenger level.
You ever wonder why Almagro never gets called in the Davis Cup team?...Even in those ties with no Nadal, the number 3 Spanish player in the world (and a top 10er for almost a year now) is simply ignored.
Go figure why.
It was intentional, not that that changes things very much.
Crisstti
Legend
I don't think a body shot is not a lack of sportsmanship.
That someone shots the ball at the opponent doesn't mean they expect to actually hit them. Usually the another player will manage to put the racket in between.
Also, for example when a player gets a lucky shot (that hits the net and it's a winner) he apologises... not because he's sorry at all, but because it's a gesture of politeness and sportsmanship.
This.
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
i don't take offence to nico's shot at all. i've hit people and people have it me. it's part of playing the net. and there are things i like about both players' games, too.
maybe i worded it poorly, but my point was that one has to look not just at the action, but the motive behind it. and then make a judgement accordingly.
some people on here are so quick to say, 'so-and-so is a punk or a p*ssy', 'he's faker', she's not really hurt', blah, blah . . . as if their opinions are facts. i'm not gonna diss berdych cos he got hit with a tennis ball. like i said, he must have thought there was some malicious intent, and that's why he didn't shake. maybe after sleeping on it, he'll regret it. maybe not. it's his life, and it's his body making him the millions. if he feels like he was targeted needlessly, that's on him.
The Djoker
Semi-Pro
I'm just excited to see how bad this Aussie crowd give Berdy the business in hie next match. He deserves it!
sheq
Professional
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sheq
Professional
I dont think we need to calm down ! Plus its not the same thing definetely not.
We have seen so many guys hit by their opponents havent we ?
However, how many times did you see a guy not shaking hands for an accident ?
Even if you think it was intentional you gotta shake your opponent hands'. Sure its not a rule, but he gonna have to deal with so much anger, coldness or something like that coming from crowd, other proffesionals in the locker room and even maybe from the organizers.
This is TENNIS people its not like messi doesnt shake ronaldo hands' or kobe doesnt lebron hands'.
This is tennis there are so many unwritten rules and manners. These manners and attitudes makes tennis elegant and different from any other sport. Thats why too many of us loves TENNIS.
If you dont like it you gotta face inevitable reactions.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Can't argue with that - we are amongst a lot of youngsters.
Then he should have shaked, then talked about it in the locker room.
sheq
Professional
By the way, a proffesioanl tennis match or even a simple tennis club match, if you are not shaking hands for just being hit at the net that means you are acting like a girl.
I dont even have to mention this was a proffesional tennis match on Grand Slam no7 and no10.
Come on people i dont even know what to say to Berydch, but i will not cheer for him any day.
I dont even have to mention this was a proffesional tennis match on Grand Slam no7 and no10.
Come on people i dont even know what to say to Berydch, but i will not cheer for him any day.
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
Berdych staring at Almagro after getting hit by the ball.
Also if you are a pitcher and you intentionally hit a batter you are considered a scumbag. Or like the lakers last year when Odum, Bynum and Artest beat up on JJ Barea, he didnt shake their hands. Lets move to football when James Harrison laid that illegal hit on Cribbs last year and Colt McCoy this year nobody respectfully shook his hand, in fact he was publicly crucified for it and is hated by a majority of the league. Respect earns respect and hitting a guy (even if it is a soft fuzzy ball) when the court is wide open is not a way of earning it. Not to mention in hockey fights break out and even in hand shakes people get in fights (minnesota kid earlier this week)
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sheq
Professional
I agree there are so many youngester around here with such childish comments and inappropriate sayings. Whether you write point by point or directly, there is no need, and definitely overreacting.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
That's 100% false. There is a Code in baseball, filled with a variety of unwritten rules. Breaking any of them will get you drilled (e.g. showing up a pitcher by taking the long slow homerun trot). Hitting a batter, like fights in hockey, are a way of policing the game (for better or worse - I'm not advocating, just reporting).
I'm shocked by your sig - if you play seriously and think getting hit isn't part of the game.
