Thomas Berdych booed by Melbourne crowd!!!!!

sheq said:
By the way, a proffesioanl tennis match or even a simple tennis club match, if you are not shaking hands for just being hit at the net that means you are acting like a girl.

I dont even have to mention this was a proffesional tennis match on Grand Slam no7 and no10.

Come on people i dont even know what to say to Berydch, but i will not cheer for him any day.
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Not particularly directed at you, since so many people do the same thing, but I want to say it's sexist behaviour to equate negative things with feminine attributes.

Hitman said:
Berdych staring at Almagro after getting hit by the ball.

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Good one :D
 
West Coast Ace said:
That's 100% false. There is a Code in baseball, filled with a variety of unwritten rules. Breaking any of them will get you drilled (e.g. showing up a pitcher by taking the long slow homerun trot). Hitting a batter, like fights in hockey, are a way of policing the game (for better or worse - I'm not advocating, just reporting).

I'm shocked by your sig - if you play seriously and think getting hit isn't part of the game.
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I know its part of the game, doesn't mean I accept it. There are plenty of times where people will not shake hands with me or I won't shake hands with others. In college they advocate for you to aim at the net man in doubles (where most pegging happens) That doesn't mean every one is going to take it sitting down. As a result sometimes kids cheat, peg your partner or you, etc. and things get heated, especially with rival schools. Needless to say there are times where people don't shake.

Your idea of tennis being a game of chivalry and respect is really far fetched. Now a days with jrs, kids behave terribly. Maybe that was the deal back in the day but even as early as mcenroe (as far as I know, probably even earlier) people would not shake and did not get a long.
 
West Coast Ace said:
. . . Then he should have shaked, then talked about it in the locker room.
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hey, i ain't sayin' i would have advised him to do what he did. just that it was his prerogative. :)

i'm not one to automatically assume the worst about a person (unless he/she proves me otherwise). i'm 6'3" so i'm a pretty big target at the net. i might let you tag me once or twice even. but after that, i might start to wonder. :wink:
 
Crisstti said:
Not particularly directed at you, since so many people do the same thing, but I want to say it's sexist behaviour to equate negative things with feminine attributes.
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hmm . . . you know crisstti, i was just thinking the same thing. whenever someone wants to insult a male player (on tw? really? get outta town) . . . they have to call him a "girl" or a "h o m o". so many other ways to insult a person other than denigrating another group. let's be a little more creative, people.
 
I'm curious about how the mainstream sports media (that normally covers football, basketball, etc.) has treated this story, if at all. Any links?
 
Every person that plays tennis has been hit countless times when playing at the net.

It is a risk when you go to the net.

Ask McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, Cash, Stich, Sampras, Rafter....how many times have they been hit when at the net. Countless times. Nothing strange there.

If you don't like to be hit then don't go to the net (and never play a doubles game).
 
Regarding Almagro's shot at Berdych: as a serve-volleyer whose been hit more times than Jennifer Aniston -" it's too legit to quit."
 
Here are my views:

1) Hitting someone is not against the rules. Neither is not shaking hands. Both are acts against common courtesy. To those people who say Berdych shouldn't complain about Almagro hitting him even if it was on purpose, why are people making a huge fuss out of Berdych not shaking hands? Again, this is only directed to people who think it's ok to hit someone even if done on purpose.

2) If hitting someone is perfectly fine and normal, why apologize? This is only directed to people who apologize when they hit someone. If you don't apologize, then ok, your actions are consistent with your belief that hitting someone with a ball to win a point is fine.

3) Almagro did not seem to hit Berdych on purpose; he immediately apologized. So I think Berdych did overreact.

4) Berdych said "trying to" hit his face. I don't believe he said outright that Almagro did hit his face (correct me if I'm wrong). The proximity between his bicep and his face wasn't too far. And when a ball is speeding at you at 80/90mph+ from only 10-15 feet away while you are looking away out of reaction, it may look like the ball is coming at your face initially.
 
My guess was that berdych did not like almagro even before this incident.
Then berdych picked a wrong time to vent his anger I think.
And then he made a even more foolish comment after match.
 
There's definitely bad blood between Almagro and Berdych.

Not sure if the body shot was the "tipping point" so to speak, but there's probably more to this than what's shown on the TV screen.
 
Bjorn99 said:
Watch him go and win the Australian Open and become the new John Mcenroe who brings some new fans to a dying sport. Lol.

This guy reminds me so much of Lendl, its amazing. Same ackward, *****ly personality. Just where in this crowd of clone tennis players do you manufacture a Mcenroe clone?
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And the winner of the stupidest post in this (pretty stupid) thread goes to...


Dying sport, lol, maybe in your country, mate!
 
RoddickAce said:
?.....
2) If hitting someone is perfectly fine and normal, why apologize? This is only directed to people who apologize when they hit someone. If you don't apologize, then ok, your actions are consistent with your belief that hitting someone with a ball to win a point is fine.

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This is funny.

Let say I hit toward you and actually the ball hit you. I raise my hand and say
"I'm sorry". What do you think I meant by that?

"sorry I didn't mean to hit you?" or "sorry I had to go for that shot" or "I understand you might feel pain or upset at least temporarily." ?
 
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Lets aim for 20 pages guys. Cmon, more outrage please...we are not keeping it up.
 
Legend of Borg said:
It will be so troll if Berdych finds a way past Nadal into the semis.

Then he can rub it into the crowd's face some more. :)
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Oh Lord, imagine if he wins the whole thing and during his trophy acceptance speech he thanks the crowd for their support, and then proceeds to walk around the court pretending to shake hands with all the officials and ballkids, and pretending to high five the crowd, only every time someone responds he pulls his hand/hands back and wags his finger at them?

...I kind of really want to see him do that actually :twisted:
 
Legend of Borg said:
There's definitely bad blood between Almagro and Berdych.

Not sure if the body shot was the "tipping point" so to speak, but there's probably more to this than what's shown on the TV screen.
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Yeah, maybe something happened inside the locker room that we don't know about. Those blogs that Tipsy does definitely shows that players interact casually between matches, so maybe there was some trash talking?

On another note, I hope Berdy can put up a good fight against Rafa.
 
Hood_Man said:
Oh Lord, imagine if he wins the whole thing and during his trophy acceptance speech he thanks the crowd for their support, and then proceeds to walk around the court pretending to shake hands with all the officials and ballkids, and pretending to high five the crowd, only every time someone responds he pulls his hand/hands back and wags his finger at them?

...I kind of really want to see him do that actually :twisted:
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He would auto win "Troll of the Decade" award in my book. :lol:
 
Don't see what the big deal is about this chain of events. I think the crowd overreacted for some strange reason.

Emotions being high in the heat of the moment Berdych refuses to shake Almagro's hand after being tagged by him at the net. I mean, what's the big deal? The guy's understandably upset. He's only human after all. Do you think if any of the other players were on the receiving end of that ball, which was hit pretty hard, they wouldn't have something to say about it? Nadal once complained that Berdych did not have a friendly face during their matches. Imagine what he would have said or done if he had been tagged in the same manner Berdych was. It's only a handshake folks. The world is not going to crumble because Berdych did not shake Almagros hand in his 4th round match.

From his press conference it sounds like he's over it in any case. We should get over it too.
 
Legend of Borg said:
There's definitely bad blood between Almagro and Berdych.

Not sure if the body shot was the "tipping point" so to speak, but there's probably more to this than what's shown on the TV screen.
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OMG have you guys not heard about what almagro did to the berd last year?
Here is a video of the incident.
 
RoddickAce said:
Here are my views:

1) Hitting someone is not against the rules. Neither is not shaking hands. Both are acts against common courtesy. To those people who say Berdych shouldn't complain about Almagro hitting him even if it was on purpose, why are people making a huge fuss out of Berdych not shaking hands? Again, this is only directed to people who think it's ok to hit someone even if done on purpose.

2) If hitting someone is perfectly fine and normal, why apologize? This is only directed to people who apologize when they hit someone. If you don't apologize, then ok, your actions are consistent with your belief that hitting someone with a ball to win a point is fine.
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People apologize for accidents.

3) Almagro did not seem to hit Berdych on purpose; he immediately apologized. So I think Berdych did overreact.

4) Berdych said "trying to" hit his face. I don't believe he said outright that Almagro did hit his face (correct me if I'm wrong). The proximity between his bicep and his face wasn't too far. And when a ball is speeding at you at 80/90mph+ from only 10-15 feet away while you are looking away out of reaction, it may look like the ball is coming at your face initially.
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All true except for #2.
 
above bored said:
...they wouldn't have something to say about it?....
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Shake then go in the locker room and have that conversation.

Guessing you don't play - not shaking is a significant breach of protocol. It's one of the things that separates our sports from the ones where bad sportsmanship is accepted.

above bored said:
The world is not going to crumble because Berdych did not shake Almagros hand in his 4th round match.
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No one stated as such. The Mayans said 2012 was The End; not TW.
 
The times are bad indeed; we wasted 10 pages to discuss a quite common "accident".

At least it's better than that 12/2+4 equation or whatever it was.
 
people need to leave berdych alone. This is the fake part of tennis that I hate.

Like holding up your hand when the ball clips the net and drops in for a winner. Your not really sorry about it and everyone knows it. In fact, I'd say that that was a great shot. You hit it just hard enough to win the point. Congrats.

In no other sport do people apologize for winning the point. Do you see KobE Bryant apologizing and holding his hands up if he hits the rim and then the ball bounces in?


IF the guy doesn't wanna shake the dudes hand and be a fake as$ about it then so be it. Stop forcing the man to be a fake fart. HE didn't appreciate getting hit by a 90mph forehand at close range ok? Australian Open Crowd. You pusssies are sitting in the comforts of your seat eating your aussie popcorn and not experiencing the raw emotions of the match. And the sad thing is that the people who booed the loudest are these fat ugly chicks in the stand who absolutely would not have any chance in hell of being able to play tennis period.

Leave the man alone. That was poor poor form by the crowd. Quite dissapointing. I remember that the US open crowd turned on Djoker a couple years ago too for making comments about how he wasn't faking. They aren't Djoker and they aren't out there playing in 100 degree heat so how could they tell he was faking injury?
 
West Coast Ace said:
Shake then go in the locker room and have that conversation.

Guessing you don't play - not shaking is a significant breach of protocol. It's one of the things that separates our sports from the ones where bad sportsmanship is accepted.

No one stated as such. The Mayans said 2012 was The End; not TW.
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You're guessing wrong.

OMG lets call the Feds, Berdych breached tennis protocol by not shaking his opponent's hand. So he breached protocol, I doubt his peers will hold it against him. He's only human and his reaction was perfectly understandable. I doubt any player has a perfect record when it comes to observing tennis protocol. And as for the significance of this particular code of conduct, it is not so significant that the ATP think failing to perform it worthy of a fine for bringing the sport into disrepute.
 
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bhallic24 said:
people need to leave berdych alone. This is the fake part of tennis that I hate.

Like holding up your hand when the ball clips the net and drops in for a winner. Your not really sorry about it and everyone knows it. In fact, I'd say that that was a great shot. You hit it just hard enough to win the point. Congrats.

In no other sport do people apologize for winning the point. Do you see KobE Bryant apologizing and holding his hands up if he hits the rim and then the ball bounces in?


IF the guy doesn't wanna shake the dudes hand and be a fake as$ about it then so be it. Stop forcing the man to be a fake fart. HE didn't appreciate getting hit by a 90mph forehand at close range ok? Australian Open Crowd. You pusssies are sitting in the comforts of your seat eating your aussie popcorn and not experiencing the raw emotions of the match. And the sad thing is that the people who booed the loudest are these fat ugly chicks in the stand who absolutely would not have any chance in hell of being able to play tennis period.

Leave the man alone. That was poor poor form by the crowd. Quite dissapointing. I remember that the US open crowd turned on Djoker a couple years ago too for making comments about how he wasn't faking. They aren't Djoker and they aren't out there playing in 100 degree heat so how could they tell he was faking injury?
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Well said.
 
bhallic24 said:
people need to leave berdych alone. This is the fake part of tennis that I hate.

Like holding up your hand when the ball clips the net and drops in for a winner. Your not really sorry about it and everyone knows it. In fact, I'd say that that was a great shot. You hit it just hard enough to win the point. Congrats.

In no other sport do people apologize for winning the point. Do you see KobE Bryant apologizing and holding his hands up if he hits the rim and then the ball bounces in?


IF the guy doesn't wanna shake the dudes hand and be a fake as$ about it then so be it. Stop forcing the man to be a fake fart. HE didn't appreciate getting hit by a 90mph forehand at close range ok? Australian Open Crowd. You pusssies are sitting in the comforts of your seat eating your aussie popcorn and not experiencing the raw emotions of the match. And the sad thing is that the people who booed the loudest are these fat ugly chicks in the stand who absolutely would not have any chance in hell of being able to play tennis period.

Leave the man alone. That was poor poor form by the crowd. Quite dissapointing. I remember that the US open crowd turned on Djoker a couple years ago too for making comments about how he wasn't faking. They aren't Djoker and they aren't out there playing in 100 degree heat so how could they tell he was faking injury?
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Sport is sport, at the end of the match you shake hands with your opponent and leave everything that's happened there on the court. It's not about being fake, it's about conforming to the expectations of the game as it has been played for years, and setting an example for all us amateur warriors raging against calls from our friends at the weekend, then putting it aside after and heading off for a drink, for kids learning the game, to remind them that, at the end of the day, it is a game that's been played. And if you want to suggest that Berdych shouldn't *conform*, just remember that one way or another everyone is conforming to a set of norms, his deciding not to honour an unofficial sportsman's code in tennis is not something that is to be praised, at all.

You go to the front of the court, there's a chance you'll get bulleted. It's a pretty good tactic to keep a player away from the net in the future in fact, if they're not brave enough to keep coming in, if their volleys can't protect them. There's nothing wrong with politeness when luck plays a part in your winning a point beyond your own skill and ability.

Your unpleasant inference that the worst offenders in the audience were fat, ugly women, actually suggests you're a bit sexist, and seems irrelevant when you consider that NO-ONE in the crowd is going to be able to play pro tennis. It's also not based in fact. The crowd in this match is not the same crowd as turned on Djokovic in some US Open match, so don't throw them in together.
 
Legend of Borg said:
I have his exact location on my GPS tracking device.

When do we track him down and force him to shake our hands?
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Who'd want to shake his now anyway? He's made himself into a persona non grata...all the more fun when he emerges from the tunnel ahead of THRHRHRHRRah-fay-el Nah-dahl!!!............

LOL!! Let the boos begin...:twisted:
 
Shaking hands is so over rated. Those dead fish hand shakes from Wickmayer are so lame that I would rather she didn't bother to shake.
 
diggler said:
Shaking hands is so over rated. Those dead fish hand shakes from Wickmayer are so lame that I would rather she didn't bother to shake.
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I agree. A lame ash handshake is worse than no hand shake. Don't try to fake it if your heart is not into it.
 
Rozroz said:
wow, the crowd was just nassssty at the interview.
it was very embarrassing for TB.
i wonder what happened afterwards in the locker room..
the Nadal gang gave him a 'soaps in towel' treatment...?

i just cannot think that Almagro did that on purpose.

was there any other grand slam with so many weird incidents day after day?? (Nalby/Isner, Tomic/Dolgo, and this)
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Too much alcohol at the Aussie open!

They already tend to be very carefree people, add alcohol and carefree becomes careless real quick.
 
Might as well already write in the win for Nadal vs. Birdshit. This will provide a little extra motivation for Nadal.

Surly Birdshit, nobody will care one bit when you are gone. In the end, you are mostly a nobody in the game.
 
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