Thoughts on a change from LM Instinct Tour XL

Phantom

New User
Hey Guys,

I am in desperate need for some help. I've own for a good time a Head LM Instinct tour XL, don't know if many here have played this frame but just fitted my game like a charm. The thing is i used it when i was in my 20's, now at my mid 30's after a good time without playing it became a litttle sluggish for forehands on the run and defense in general (355g without any customisation). To solve this I bough a APDC+ as I remembered being a good and easy to use frame, turns out it is wildly unprecise for me with a high launching angle wich i didnt adapt, balls were allways high and more defensive, could not go for attack without sailing long.

All being said, i would like to hear any suggestions of frames to use that and lighter (330g'ish strung) that still have that spin and some mass behind the shot but a bit more control and flex than the apdc. I am open for droping the extended lenght.
I am a 4.0ish player, full/extreme western FH, extreme eastern 1HBH, mostly aggressive baseliner clay player.

Thanks for all.
 

Wheelz

Semi-Pro
If you want to stick to extended, can you try the Yonex Ezone 98+? Should be about that, low 330g strung, solid spin and good leverage power with a balance on control. I'd take that stick on Clay and hardcourt as I find it equally good on flatter shots and heavy spin balls.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
How long did you play with the APD? If you play with a single frame for 20 years you are probably going to need a good amount of time to adapt to a new frame and adapt your swing and game to its strengths.

My view on frames is a) does it feel good hitting the ball and b) does it's strengths fit the game I want to play?

If you get a Pure Aero line, then you are should be prepared to play a defensive or counter puncher game since it's strengths are heavy topspin. If you want to play a power baselining offensive game then a tweener with more control might be up your alley. Pure Strike, Blade, VCORE, Pro Staff, Speed Pro frames might be more up your alley. Go 18x20 if you want control and 16x19 if you want more spin and free power.
 

Phantom

New User
Well, i've been playing the apd for about 2 months now, mostly with the strings i bought it with, a mushy SP Tornado. Restrung last week with my good old SPPP 1.23 @56, it's on my limit of stiffness, and the ball flew on me even worse. I still need to give this stick a shot, but keeping an eye on the market, can't afford a new one right now.
Just found a Yonex RDS003 on a great deal, but won't be able to test it. Any thoughts on how it fits? I've searched the forum but found no good info.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Well, i've been playing the apd for about 2 months now, mostly with the strings i bought it with, a mushy SP Tornado. Restrung last week with my good old SPPP 1.23 @56, it's on my limit of stiffness, and the ball flew on me even worse. I still need to give this stick a shot, but keeping an eye on the market, can't afford a new one right now.
Just found a Yonex RDS003 on a great deal, but won't be able to test it. Any thoughts on how it fits? I've searched the forum but found no good info.
About a billion frames that are less launchy than the APD. Prince Tours and Phantoms all have low launch angles. Wilson Blade, Yonex VCORE, Head Speed Pro, Prestige and Gravity lines. Even if you stick with Babolat, the pure strike is more controlled.

No idea about the Yonex RDS. Sorry. Any frame older than 10 years gets erased from my limited memory bank.
 
Another option, if you can still get some, is the Yonex Vcore98+, I have just got a pair of those myself. I'm waiting on getting them strung.

I know just what you mean, I spent ages looking for a new 27.5 frame with more a "players" spec, i went the Yonex after also looking at the Dunlop CX200+, but couldn't get the right grip size i nthe Dunlop (all the stock left here in Australia were 1/4s or 3/8s and they were too small for my hand). Then the Yonex's popped up at a "you gotta be kiddin" price, so i have gone with them as these 2 were almost identical specs.

I have not tried the AP+ or the APD+, I have tried the PD+ a number of years ago, and felt that it was ok, lots of free power, but i wasn't a fan of the feel, so If I ever went in that direction I would use a multi with it rather than a poly. Something like Head Rip control.
 

Lorenn

Semi-Pro
All being said, i would like to hear any suggestions of frames to use that and lighter (330g'ish strung) that still have that spin and some mass behind the shot but a bit more control and flex than the apdc. I am open for droping the extended lenght.
I am a 4.0ish player, full/extreme western FH, extreme eastern 1HBH, mostly aggressive baseliner clay player.
Dropping the extended length will help with exactly what you are complaining about...might impact your serves etc. Another option is to try and reign them in with stringing changes.
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Suggested racquets Prince Textreme Tour 290/310, Speed Pro/MP, Extreme MP/tour...Maybe Gravity Pro. Techifibre Tf40. Yonex would have a few options. Gravity Pro would be fun.
 

Phantom

New User
Thanks guys!
I will look for those, but it's not very easy to find them to try in my region, i am still tending more to the tweener side, but open for whatever comes around. Test list so far are the speeds, prince textreme tour and VCores.

@ozbikebuddy I'd like to hear how the VCORE worked for you, what did you play before?
 

OnyxZ28

Hall of Fame
I will second the ezone98+ and vcore98+ recommendations. I was a longtime APD+ user, went to the Ezone 98+ for better feel and more predictable flat shots. APD+ can't be beat stringing with poly at 45 and hitting loopy, driving spin all day, though.
 

onkystomper

Hall of Fame
The Vcore 100 + or Ezone 100 + is much more similar to the LM instinct tour XL. but easier to swing and IMO feel better.. especially the VC.. if you play singles and can handle the + size stick with it
 
Thanks guys!
I will look for those, but it's not very easy to find them to try in my region, i am still tending more to the tweener side, but open for whatever comes around. Test list so far are the speeds, prince textreme tour and VCores.

@ozbikebuddy I'd like to hear how the VCORE worked for you, what did you play before?

Will do Phantom, I waiting on leather grip s for them to arrive, and restrings, i'm taking it easy at the moment as I had some abdominal surgery about 6 weeks ago now and easing my way back into exercise
 
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