Thoughts on Nadal claims

It looks like the Nadal #20 finally broke the camel's back and sent some fans over the edge: now you are completely detached from reality in more ways than one (luckily, for you the likes of Order will keep you good company there).

:cool:
Just send us regular postcards from yer honeymoon...
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal fans had a week of celebration and I congratulate you for that. Now it's time to get back to reality. Nothing changed.

If you google “most dominant athletes of all time,” a list pops up that includes Phelps, Kelly Slater, Floyd Mayweather, Jack Nicklaus, Tiger Woods and Martina Navratilova. Who’s at the top of the list? Nadal at Roland Garros. He’s a perfect 12-0 in French Open finals, and should improve to 13-0 on Sunday.

 

3loudboys

Hall of Fame
sure Professor.
Or shall I call you Doctor? or what is your title?

just post the instructions in an un-encrypted way where I can find this precious course, how much it costs and via which methods it can be paid for.
Count me in - over the pond here I find myself ironically frowning when browsings the professional player section. All thees crazie plays on words and anacronymnsndns..........
 
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Devtennis01

Hall of Fame
So much changed! Before it was all Federer is GOAT, head to head at slams means nothing, he has the more slams.
Now it's 20-20....
 

BackhandDTL

Professional
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That list is very uneven. JCF was an excellent player for example, his career marred by injury.

don't you sh*t talk mah boy
Half those guys had no mental strength though. Safin was losing early round GS matches in his PRIME. Nalbandian had no fitness or mental strength to challenge an ATG like Fed in slams consistently. He was choking to guys like Baghdatis in slams.


Prepubescent Nadal took Hewitt to 5 SETS on HC! On ****ing HC
 
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What are Nadal's claims? That he has 20 slams and is the best clay courter ever, and one of the best tennis players ever? Seems reasonable to me. Just like Federer's claims that he has 20 slams and is one of the best tennis players ever.

Hit a lineswoman in the throat and also claims pyramids help his energy tunnels.
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
yep. And H2H is a better metric than something like weeks #1, especially since you can break it down into GS or prime v prime records.

Era quality is too important to consider a metric like weeks #1 imo. Not much argument left for Fed if Nadal ends up with more slams.
The most you can say is that Nadal is a better clay court player than Fed.

On grass, the reverse is true.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Yeah. All he did was tie the GS count. When he passes him, then Nadal fans can celebrate a bit more. I imagine Fed fans will be volleying stats like crazy to counter the fact. Kinda....like.........now...........
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
I mean, he wins FO every year:X3:....reaching 20 is awesome but V@mos Brigade should stop acting like this was a surprising result and that he pulled off the unimaginable.

Winning FO is a daily chore for Rafa
I don't even remember who he played against in the final. Oh well, when it's RG it doesn't matter...
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Yeah. All he did was tie the GS count. When he passes him, then Nadal fans can celebrate a bit more. I imagine Fed fans will be volleying stats like crazy to counter the fact. Kinda....like.........now...........
It doesn't bother me in the slightest though lol, Nadal wasn't even supposed to catch him, and he has. If he never won another slam I'd be good, even though I want MOAR ;) mainly bc I know Novak isn't done.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
He has a good claim of being the greatest of his era at the moment and it's only gonna get stronger in the next few years.
 

The Blond Blur

Hall of Fame
Didn't happen....for a good reason.
Everyone outside of the North American players knows how to move and play on clay. All the top players are either European or South American where the most used courts are clay. The best guys grew up and formed their games on clay. Pretty much everyone is a baseliner with heavy topspin ground strokes. If anything, the mid-00’s to the mid-2010’s was one of the strongest clay fields. The only other era I’d put on par or above it would be the 80’s.
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Everyone outside of the North American players knows how to move and play on clay. All the top players are either European or South American where the most used courts are clay. The best guys grew up and formed their games on clay. Pretty much everyone is a baseliner with heavy topspin ground strokes. If anything, the mid-00’s to the mid-2010’s was one of the strongest clay fields. The only other era I’d put on par or above it would be the 80’s.
The 50's and 60's was probably the strongest era for clay, many greats.

Sure, there are lots of players today, but how many are great on clay? Show me their records.
 
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