Power Player
Bionic Poster
Wow, now I just feel sorry for you because you are obviously coming unglued. You have never met me, hit with me or know anything about me. Don't shame yourself any further until you post a vid.
Throwing a football and serving
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Wow, now I just feel sorry for you because you are obviously coming unglued. You have never met me, hit with me or know anything about me. Don't shame yourself any further until you post a vid.
Yes, and you have met me, analysed my playing style, know my past history, thrown footballs with me, raced motocross with me, surfed with me at Pipe and OBSF, and know all about my athletic or lack of athletic skills.;
You who judge without knowing who the judged is.
I don't judge you, I'm only responding to your inane comments.
You who judge without knowing who the judged is.
I don't judge you, I'm only responding to your inane comments.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
We need video proof.
No no, really!
I was born 2-15-49.
I am ugly, proven by the fact I had no g/f''s until I hit 18.
As a single and looking guy, I had no g/f for the last 3 years.
I am still ugly, but even uglier than when I was a teenager.
I have no future because my total income into the system is somewhere under $90,000, and I'm retire ing next year, with no work skills or any ambition, work ethic, or desire.
I"m not sure how video proof can be applied here.
I was born 2-15-49.
I am ugly, proven by the fact I had no g/f''s until I hit 18.
As a single and looking guy, I had no g/f for the last 3 years.
I am still ugly, but even uglier than when I was a teenager.
I have no future because my total income into the system is somewhere under $90,000, and I'm retire ing next year, with no work skills or any ambition, work ethic, or desire.
I"m not sure how video proof can be applied here.
Yeah I was only there for under a day passing through on the way south to san diego. Went off the freeway to CSC no big blue van, so I left. Was coming from sacramento on the way to san diego. Sorry I missed you. I still believe you though. Also didnt see anyone there that looked like that guy in the picture of you.,
r2473
G.O.A.T.
You'll find the help you need for gettin' the ladies over in Odds & Ends.
I think there is also a thread on how to get rich in the stock market.
Good news then......things are looking up.
aphex
Banned
LMAO...
You said you were homeless a few months back...
Your high 130s serve is becoming more and more believable...lmfao
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Lee says a lot of things with no consequence. Then he gets upset when people dare to ask for proof.
He was going to wipe the floor with a young college tennis prospect a few weeks back. Now he is a "barely a 4.0". Funny how that works. But hey, he can somehow serve in the 130s. That will be easy to prove when Kiteboard films their match.
Everybody abuses jo11roger when he says stuff, but he is a coool guy and just likes tennis. I have never seen him attack people and basically act like an athletic god. Plus he films himself and is pretty open about his level. LeeD should take some notes.
He was going to wipe the floor with a young college tennis prospect a few weeks back. Now he is a "barely a 4.0". Funny how that works. But hey, he can somehow serve in the 130s. That will be easy to prove when Kiteboard films their match.
Everybody abuses jo11roger when he says stuff, but he is a coool guy and just likes tennis. I have never seen him attack people and basically act like an athletic god. Plus he films himself and is pretty open about his level. LeeD should take some notes.
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Although I'm not positive about this I've heard the expression "income into the system" and my understanding of it was "lifetime reportable income". I suspect it might be used for SS benefits along with "quaters/years" worked. Probably also used for State benefits but again I'm certainly not a tax person or accountant.
yellowoctopus
Professional
I thought he said he did serve in the 130s when he was in his 20's? What post does he say that he does currently?
Fedace
Banned
Yea,, i seen Ryan Thacher throw the football and warm up that way before the match.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Yes, Fedace is in here..epic thread. But good post man.
As usual, you guys are WRONG!
There has never been a post where I said I could hit into the 130's.
At the GoldenGatewayFastServe contest, I hit 3 into the low and mid 129's, for second place, amateur. That was 1978, when I was 28 years old, a little bit stronger than NOW, at 61.....ya dink?
ColinDibley hit one at 149 mph. That would be 15 faster than second place...Amaya and Kriek.
There has never been a post where I said I could hit into the 130's.
At the GoldenGatewayFastServe contest, I hit 3 into the low and mid 129's, for second place, amateur. That was 1978, when I was 28 years old, a little bit stronger than NOW, at 61.....ya dink?
ColinDibley hit one at 149 mph. That would be 15 faster than second place...Amaya and Kriek.
aphex
Banned
Are you the garbageman at Stanford?
r2473
G.O.A.T.
http://nfsctour.com/big.html
I didn't know people could serve 148 mph in those days.
Did Tanner really server 153 mph?
"To know what it is like for a top server to win it, let us drop back in history to examine the details of a 1976 event. That's when legendary Roscoe Tanner, whose serve a radar gun once clocked at 153 mph, blasted into the winner's circle."
Fedace
Banned
are you the bath house girl at the parthenon ??
r2473
G.O.A.T.
I knew that thread would help someone.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=5119702#post5119702
By the way, congrats on finding the g/f after 3 years of looking.
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Avles
Hall of Fame
FWIW, I think he's talking about lifetime earnings, not yearly income. So that's consistent with being homeless.
For the braindead again, because I care about you and I like you.
I never ever claimed I hit any serves at 130.
129.4 is not 130, by anyone's book.
Homeless.... like not paying rent or mortgage, like sleeping in a van.
A homeless person can still serve fast tennis balls.
The fastest tennis serve is NOT by a pro player, but a big strong guy with good mechanics.
The longest golf drive is NOT by a pro player, but by a good golfer who was big and strong, but maybe could not score consistently in the lowest 70's.
ColinDibley... did you ever see him? He's like 6'4 +, has super long gangly arms that hung down past his mid thighs, prolly had a wingspan equal to MichaelJordan's (7'6"), was a top 4 Aussie pro tennis player, look like a neantherdal, acted like one, as all Aussies did at the time (late '70's).
VictorAmaya was consistenly in the higher 130's.
You can serve hard with wood rackets because their sweetspot was higher up away from your hand, so longer leverage arm. Also, the small 65 sq. head was more aerodynamic.
Remember, in the '70's, BobGibson could toss a baseball over 100mph. Few do now, but you say we are getting bigger and stronger.
And Wilt the Stilt could easily play NBA all star ball now, when he was in his prime. He'd be the BEST center in the NBA, including Superman. He was 7'3" and had an unblockable sky hook.
And when did BobBeamon jump his 29'er? Like 30 years ago. An NO one has come close.
I never ever claimed I hit any serves at 130.
129.4 is not 130, by anyone's book.
Homeless.... like not paying rent or mortgage, like sleeping in a van.
A homeless person can still serve fast tennis balls.
The fastest tennis serve is NOT by a pro player, but a big strong guy with good mechanics.
The longest golf drive is NOT by a pro player, but by a good golfer who was big and strong, but maybe could not score consistently in the lowest 70's.
ColinDibley... did you ever see him? He's like 6'4 +, has super long gangly arms that hung down past his mid thighs, prolly had a wingspan equal to MichaelJordan's (7'6"), was a top 4 Aussie pro tennis player, look like a neantherdal, acted like one, as all Aussies did at the time (late '70's).
VictorAmaya was consistenly in the higher 130's.
You can serve hard with wood rackets because their sweetspot was higher up away from your hand, so longer leverage arm. Also, the small 65 sq. head was more aerodynamic.
Remember, in the '70's, BobGibson could toss a baseball over 100mph. Few do now, but you say we are getting bigger and stronger.
And Wilt the Stilt could easily play NBA all star ball now, when he was in his prime. He'd be the BEST center in the NBA, including Superman. He was 7'3" and had an unblockable sky hook.
And when did BobBeamon jump his 29'er? Like 30 years ago. An NO one has come close.
aphex
Banned
There are no bathhouses in the Parthenon moron.
I suppose you not knowing that, is consistent with your StanDford education.
TheLoneWolf
Banned
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Oh man...nice one!
WildVolley
Legend
Interesting post LeeD, but you haven't been paying attention to the long jump. The current record holder is Mike Powell who jumped 2" further in Toyko in an epic battle with Carl Lewis. Lewis also broke Beamon's record that day.
But your point still stands. It has been over 40 years and the best using modern training have only surpassed Beamon's mark by a few inches.
Long ago, servers were hitting big serves with wooden rackets. I think the bigger change was when the rules started to allow jumping into the serve instead of having to keep one foot down.
WildVolley
Legend
Drew Brees is a tennis player, I'm wondering how hard his serve is?
I remember an interview with him that I saw in which he described playing against Roddick as a junior.
I remember an interview with him that I saw in which he described playing against Roddick as a junior.
Wrist snap is about the same, but NOT identical.
Football throw followsthru with similar pronation, but the emphasis is NOT the shoulder and elbow twist, but rather the shoulder and torso twist.
Tennis serve is all about the players ability to pronate his elbow and forearm, causing a rapid racket acceleration at the head of the racket.
Since a football is attached much closer to your hand than a tennis racket's sweetspot, there is less to be gained with forearm pronation in tossing footballs.
Longer leverage arm of the racket's sweetspot gives you more rapid head acceleration due to pronation.
Football throw followsthru with similar pronation, but the emphasis is NOT the shoulder and elbow twist, but rather the shoulder and torso twist.
Tennis serve is all about the players ability to pronate his elbow and forearm, causing a rapid racket acceleration at the head of the racket.
Since a football is attached much closer to your hand than a tennis racket's sweetspot, there is less to be gained with forearm pronation in tossing footballs.
Longer leverage arm of the racket's sweetspot gives you more rapid head acceleration due to pronation.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Leed, isn't the pronation itself the same though? What I mean is the finish of the racquet with the elbow position compared to the football throw. Both seem to finish with the pinky side of the outside palm facing the sky.
Wrist snap is about the same, but not identical.. ?
You emphasis the wrist pronation in the tennis serve.
You don't in a football throw, as it's the result of the followthru that gives you the spiral.
Emphasis on a long throw is to get your body moving forwards at close to full speed, then shoulder and body rotation for the throw, with all the legs included so you finish still moving forwards.
That is NOT the QB's throw, or the pitcher's throw.
It is the javelin thrower's throw.
You emphasis the wrist pronation in the tennis serve.
You don't in a football throw, as it's the result of the followthru that gives you the spiral.
Emphasis on a long throw is to get your body moving forwards at close to full speed, then shoulder and body rotation for the throw, with all the legs included so you finish still moving forwards.
That is NOT the QB's throw, or the pitcher's throw.
It is the javelin thrower's throw.
Really don't understand this fascination with throwing a football to practice the serve. Although for many it might be fun/appropriate it certainly isn't for those with smaller hands (women and children), older folks whose grips aren't what they used to be or those trying to learn the service motion without having much of a sports background.
Just a scrap piece of closet pole or similar piece of wood the same length of a racquet does MUCH better - course you can't play catch with it BUT you can go out into your backyard and practice by yourself so easily.
Just a scrap piece of closet pole or similar piece of wood the same length of a racquet does MUCH better - course you can't play catch with it BUT you can go out into your backyard and practice by yourself so easily.
Could be a softball, baseball, basketball, or any object availible to the general public that can be used by any and all of us.
I'd rather throw a baseball. Goes farther, and it's easier. I can't throw 300' in the air, but come pretty close.
Picture this, 1986 or so, at WiseSurfboards, 43rd and Vicente. I brag I can throw OK, so we go to the SouthSunset playground 3 blocks away. Home plate lines up with the short intersection. The fence at left field is lined up with the E intersection, a measured 240' away. The fence sits atop a 20' hill. The fence is 40' high. First throw from home plate, with a SOFTBALL, not hardball, lands 3/4 up the fence in left field. JoanWasserkrug owns the house on the other side of the fence at the left field line. I don't throw any more. The 7 guys who doubted me go back to the shop without a word. I'm kinda surprised the ball went that far.
I'd rather throw a baseball. Goes farther, and it's easier. I can't throw 300' in the air, but come pretty close.
Picture this, 1986 or so, at WiseSurfboards, 43rd and Vicente. I brag I can throw OK, so we go to the SouthSunset playground 3 blocks away. Home plate lines up with the short intersection. The fence at left field is lined up with the E intersection, a measured 240' away. The fence sits atop a 20' hill. The fence is 40' high. First throw from home plate, with a SOFTBALL, not hardball, lands 3/4 up the fence in left field. JoanWasserkrug owns the house on the other side of the fence at the left field line. I don't throw any more. The 7 guys who doubted me go back to the shop without a word. I'm kinda surprised the ball went that far.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Leed..my god man, how many times do you have to be called out for this crap before you will stop? It's pretty pathetic.
It's very pathetic you cannot understand that other people can do stuff you can't do.
Can you jump 29'? NO, neither can I, but I accept someone can.
Can you run 100 meters in 9.55 seconds? NO, neither can I, so I can accept someone can, but I can't come close.
Can you ride 115 miles for 16 of the next 20 days? NO, neither can I. But guess what? SOMEONE can.
Just because you are an invalid doesn't mean everyone else is limited to a point below you.
Look above for some peeps who aren't limited by what YOU CANNOT DO!
Can you jump 29'? NO, neither can I, but I accept someone can.
Can you run 100 meters in 9.55 seconds? NO, neither can I, so I can accept someone can, but I can't come close.
Can you ride 115 miles for 16 of the next 20 days? NO, neither can I. But guess what? SOMEONE can.
Just because you are an invalid doesn't mean everyone else is limited to a point below you.
Look above for some peeps who aren't limited by what YOU CANNOT DO!
r2473
G.O.A.T.
The target is 240' away (80 yards). You are tossing a softball (16"? 14"?). The fence is 60' feet tall (adding together the hill and the fence). Your ball hits 3/4 up the wall or 45 feet in the air when it hits the wall?
So if you were standing on the 30 yard line of a football field, you could toss a softball over the highest part of a field goal post?
I'll try that, given a chance.
A softball throw on a football field would be interesting, especially if the football team, either Cal or BerkeleyHigh, were hanging around.
Of course, a softball throw is always longer than a football throw. Baseball the farthest, even farther than a golf ball.
Maybe we should try a basketball throw on a regulation NBA sized court.
A softball throw on a football field would be interesting, especially if the football team, either Cal or BerkeleyHigh, were hanging around.
Of course, a softball throw is always longer than a football throw. Baseball the farthest, even farther than a golf ball.
Maybe we should try a basketball throw on a regulation NBA sized court.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
I just find it.......hard....hard to believe that after 80 yards in the air your softball throw would still be 45 feet in the air.
Put another way, if you were tossing a softball from the 20 yard line you could toss it over a 4+ storey wall on the goal line, 80 yards away.
Another way to think about it.....Fenway park is 310' down the left field line. The green monster is 37' tall. So if you were to stand 2/3rd's of the way down the third base line, you could throw a softball that would clear the green monster by 8 feet?
Are these guys that witnessed your toss still (or ever) alive?
Put another way, if you were tossing a softball from the 20 yard line you could toss it over a 4+ storey wall on the goal line, 80 yards away.
Another way to think about it.....Fenway park is 310' down the left field line. The green monster is 37' tall. So if you were to stand 2/3rd's of the way down the third base line, you could throw a softball that would clear the green monster by 8 feet?
Are these guys that witnessed your toss still (or ever) alive?
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Are you this clueless? Let me spell it out for you :
You look like a blowhard running your mouth all the time about your made up accomplishments referenced by obscure locations and people that nobody knows but you. Nobody asked about how great you are, but you drop into threads all the time and talk about yourself like you are relevant to the discussion.
It's not about us being insecure from your incredible skills. But I am not surprised you think it is. You seem delusional enough to STILL not get it.
"incredible skills" ... YOU say they're incredible. I say they are average for an athlete who spent his youth throwing everything from tantrums to baseballs, sanddollars, rocks, throwing stars, knifes, and dodgeballs.
I thought we were talking throwing from the THIRTY yard line. Now you're backing me up to the TWENTY? Why not put me behind the goal post? Please don't change the criteria so quickly.
KevinMoore still works at WiseSurfboards, in the wetsuit dept. RockyWhite is now a #3 HarborMaster at OysterPt.Marina. RichKlein I have not seen in over 15 years, but is still surfing, albeit at LindaMar. GregRaymond is not around anymore... There were a couple other guys, but I can't recall who they were right now.
Ability to throw far is no criteria for excelling in any area. My best sports were surfing (California 4A rating of 17), and motocross (ExpertPro, but just barely). It didn't help my windsurfing, kiteboarding, waterskiing, snowboarding, or bump skiing.
I thought we were talking throwing from the THIRTY yard line. Now you're backing me up to the TWENTY? Why not put me behind the goal post? Please don't change the criteria so quickly.
KevinMoore still works at WiseSurfboards, in the wetsuit dept. RockyWhite is now a #3 HarborMaster at OysterPt.Marina. RichKlein I have not seen in over 15 years, but is still surfing, albeit at LindaMar. GregRaymond is not around anymore..
. There were a couple other guys, but I can't recall who they were right now.Ability to throw far is no criteria for excelling in any area. My best sports were surfing (California 4A rating of 17), and motocross (ExpertPro, but just barely). It didn't help my windsurfing, kiteboarding, waterskiing, snowboarding, or bump skiing.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
You said you can throw 80 yards and the softball will still be 3/4 up a 60' wall. The goalpost is located in the back of the endzone, which is 10 yards.
The only difference is first we visualized throwing over the goalpost (which are generally at least 30' tall, often times more). The second time we visualized tossing over a 4 storey wall, which I placed at the goal line.
I actually like the other visualization of tossing the softball over the green monster at Fenway.
I know you could throw a baseball this distance (which is 9" - 9.25"). Not sure if you can throw a softball this distance. Much will depend on the size of the softball (16", 14", 12") and the size of your hand.
I find it hard to believe that either ball would still be 45' in the air after traveling 80 yards. It is especially hard to imagine a softball toss like this.
Huh ??
A softball is not nearly the size you mentioned. It's bigger than a baseball for sure, and is used underhand pitching by both male and females in college and rec. I can't tell you it's exact dimensions, as I can't tell you exact dimensions for baseballs, footballs, or basketballs.... soccer balls, shot puts or any other balls.
I hope you know what a softball is. It's as hard as a baseball, but bigger. It's played in junior high and most fielders do not use gloves. Hit or thrown over 200', it is really hard to catch without gloves.
7th grade, as a tyke around 4' tall and less than 60 lbs., the phys ed teacher allowed me ONE throw for the presidential physical fitness thing. 180'. I've grown a bit, and gotten a little bit stronger since.
I long distance throw is not flat. It's usually upwards and outwards at about a 35-40 degree angle, so it's zenith on a throw should easily reach 80' high or higher. Higher I'd say, but since I've never measured, I can't tell you exactly how high.
Look at the arcs of shotputters and javelin throwers. A 255' javelin throw, about the record when I was paying attention back in the '60's, usually cleared well over that height. You can tell a little by it's landing angle, usually right around 45 degrees.
Give me 15' on the height of the bank, at home plate. It's higher by the time you get to left center field.
Goal post is about 10' high, maybe a hair higher, at most. The sticks are higher, but you can't use that as a measurement because it's set vertically. I don't know the exact height because I played football, I wasn't a nerd who memorized the specs of the field.
A softball is not nearly the size you mentioned. It's bigger than a baseball for sure, and is used underhand pitching by both male and females in college and rec. I can't tell you it's exact dimensions, as I can't tell you exact dimensions for baseballs, footballs, or basketballs.... soccer balls, shot puts or any other balls.
I hope you know what a softball is. It's as hard as a baseball, but bigger. It's played in junior high and most fielders do not use gloves. Hit or thrown over 200', it is really hard to catch without gloves.
7th grade, as a tyke around 4' tall and less than 60 lbs., the phys ed teacher allowed me ONE throw for the presidential physical fitness thing. 180'. I've grown a bit, and gotten a little bit stronger since.
I long distance throw is not flat. It's usually upwards and outwards at about a 35-40 degree angle, so it's zenith on a throw should easily reach 80' high or higher. Higher I'd say, but since I've never measured, I can't tell you exactly how high.
Look at the arcs of shotputters and javelin throwers. A 255' javelin throw, about the record when I was paying attention back in the '60's, usually cleared well over that height. You can tell a little by it's landing angle, usually right around 45 degrees.
Give me 15' on the height of the bank, at home plate. It's higher by the time you get to left center field.
Goal post is about 10' high, maybe a hair higher, at most. The sticks are higher, but you can't use that as a measurement because it's set vertically. I don't know the exact height because I played football, I wasn't a nerd who memorized the specs of the field.
HunterST
Hall of Fame
LeeD,
IF you really can serve 120 mph why don't you just post a video to prove it? That would silence everyone who doubts you pretty quickly. Quite frankly, I have to agree that a lot of what you say is horse hockey. No offense, but your posts do not show that much incredible insight into strokes or the serve. You've admitted to being a 3.5 or 4.0. I don't think anyone with a 130 mph serve is going to be a 4.0, no matter how old they are.
I will be the first to issue an apology if you can post a video of yourself hitting 120 mph serves.
IF you really can serve 120 mph why don't you just post a video to prove it? That would silence everyone who doubts you pretty quickly. Quite frankly, I have to agree that a lot of what you say is horse hockey. No offense, but your posts do not show that much incredible insight into strokes or the serve. You've admitted to being a 3.5 or 4.0. I don't think anyone with a 130 mph serve is going to be a 4.0, no matter how old they are.
I will be the first to issue an apology if you can post a video of yourself hitting 120 mph serves.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Softballs are typically either 12" or 14" (or 11" for fast pitch softball). Baseballs are typically 9".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softball
I'm just using the information you provided in your post and providing practical examples so we can all relate to what you are saying. Most of us are familiar with a football field and throwing balls on that field.
Your claim was that you can throw a softball (we will assume a 12" as you aren't specific) 240' (80 yards) and that after traveling this distance, it will still be 45' in the air.
Here is another way to think about that claim. If you were to stand at the pitchers mound (60.6' from the plate) at Fenway park, you could throw the 12" softball over "The Green Monster", clearing it easily (by 8 feet). (See Fenway Park dimensions in my previous thread).
The reason I used a football field in my first example and throwing over the vertical poles (not the crossbar) of a field goal post (which are typically around 30' - 45' high), is that most of us are familiar with these things. That is why I had you envision standing on the 30-yard line and throwing the 12" softball over the highest part of the field goal post. I think we can all visualize how hard this task would be.
Such practical examples are easier for most people to visualize as they can reference the numbers against distances and heights they are familiar with. (As for memorizing the dimensions of balls, fields..........well, it is a pretty simple google search).
As such, I'm saying that your claims would be very difficult to "realize" in the space / time constraints of the planet earth we are familiar with.
PS: I'm not trying to convince you that you are wrong. I am only trying to put your claims in perspective and in terms we are all somewhat familiar with. From this each of us can better judge the likely truth value of your claims. If curious, any of us could go out to a football field with a softball and duplicate the experiment. Record our results and compare these to your claims.
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USERNAME
Professional
Ok theres a vid online of Big Ben in college taking 3 or 4 big steps and launching a ball around 65 yards in a game, he just heaved it with everything he had. So you think with 1 week of practice you could just about match that?
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Yes, easily.
With NO practice, and just 3 short warmup throws, I can get the football to go 50+ yards, or 150', without any difficulty.
A softball is not varied in diameter. It's exactly the same size as any other softball. I don't know how stupid Wikipedia can be, but that is the honest truth.....there is only ONE size of a softball.
I think I typed my first toss landed upper half of the fence, that was located 240' away, and that is possibly as high as 55'. I did not say it hit the top.
I don't care how badly a QB can throw. NO QB can throw a javelin anywhere near 265', about average for Olympic Q's.
QB's are QB's not for their armstrength, but for their game management, ability to create plays, ability to rally the troops, and lack of ability to make dumb mistakes. QB's for our high school, which won the city wide championships in my junior year, and lost the city champs my senior year, did not nearly have a decent long arm. MikeHolmgrem, then PaulOliphant both had rather weak arms.
Like a tennis serve top speed, the longest ever golf drive, or the farthest ever kick be it soccer, football, or whatever, throwing far is NOT limited to professional ball players.
With NO practice, and just 3 short warmup throws, I can get the football to go 50+ yards, or 150', without any difficulty.
A softball is not varied in diameter. It's exactly the same size as any other softball. I don't know how stupid Wikipedia can be, but that is the honest truth.....there is only ONE size of a softball.
I think I typed my first toss landed upper half of the fence, that was located 240' away, and that is possibly as high as 55'. I did not say it hit the top.
I don't care how badly a QB can throw. NO QB can throw a javelin anywhere near 265', about average for Olympic Q's.
QB's are QB's not for their armstrength, but for their game management, ability to create plays, ability to rally the troops, and lack of ability to make dumb mistakes. QB's for our high school, which won the city wide championships in my junior year, and lost the city champs my senior year, did not nearly have a decent long arm. MikeHolmgrem, then PaulOliphant both had rather weak arms.
Like a tennis serve top speed, the longest ever golf drive, or the farthest ever kick be it soccer, football, or whatever, throwing far is NOT limited to professional ball players.
Wheres the video? But I bet he can throw farther then that.
USERNAME
Professional
youtube, its from his college days, he really heaved it in the vid. Looked like he went all out trying to get it in the endzone and just fell short, catch was made btw after it was tipped on the 5 for the game winning TD.
