mike danny
Bionic Poster
I'm gonna go with Thiem. Has lots of power to hit Meddy off the court.
Tiafoe is not good.
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Does anyone else see Thiem straight setting the finalist from the top half and winning the cup? I do.
Is it really that predictable?
Is it really that predictable?
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Tiafoe is a good tour level player but not against top 5 ranked players! Tiafoe ranking will jump way up to mid 60s after U.S. Open is over. That means Tiafoe will not have to go through qualifying unless it is an elite ATP event! Tiafoe did well at the U.S. Open and jump 16 spots from #82!
McLovin
Legend
I've got news for you: Tennis here died well before Roddick...
I think the thread title is inaccurate: Tiafoe is plenty good. He's just not good enough to win a major. So maybe a better title would be 'Tiafoe is not great'.
The US's best hope for a consistent threat to major titles likely lies w/ Frtiz. He's got all the tools, but I don't know if he has what it takes between the ears. Hopefully Annacone can drill it into his head that, when he hits a backhand angle that draws his opponent off the court, he needs to come forward & pick off the weak response (or force then to go for a high risk winner).
PaddyDutch
Semi-Pro
This right here.
It is perfectly normal for the nr 60 or 70 to go down to a top 5 player. To me it says more about the extremely high level of Medvedev than it does about Tiafoe (who played a great tournament so far).
Same story for FAA. Crushed Moutet and got crushed by Thiem in the very next match.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
it is not that Tiafoe lost, it is the way that he lost. Didn't go down crawling and fighting, that said a lot about Tiafoe.
Yes, FAA lost to Thiem BAD but I didn't see FAA gave up. He stayed and fought 'til the very end.
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
To be fair, that's not bad.
Also a fair statement.
I don't think he's top shelf talent, but when he's on he's fun to watch, and he seems pretty likeable. I'm not sure I need to care more than this about any tennis player.
TennisDawg
Hall of Fame
Medvedev is just the better player. It looked to me that Foe had no weapon against Med. Foe was finished after that 1st set. I mean we can say he quit but he just didn’t have the game. It has to be demoralizing. Foe’s serve is not good enough to be a slam contender. If he can do it, he needs to fix that first. I credit him for getting as far as he has considering where he started as a child.
mbm0912
Hall of Fame
Gee, I wonder why they'd worship him....
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
I can't believe the Lajovic match. Still gotta watch it on DVR but I saw the first game when he was up 40-0...then came back when it was 0-5 in the first. Good on him to come back from that.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
No worries. Tiafoe will be 0-4 against Medvedev after tomorrow. His best chance to is to pray that Medvedev has not recovered from yesterday cramp.
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Slowtwitcher
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beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Same guy that LOVES JJ Wolf...
BTW whatever happened to JJ???
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he could 100% be doing better than he is, though you can say that for a fair few players
At first I thought his forehand looked wacky but not a disadvantage as he still hits it quite powerfully. After seeing more of his matches I have to come back on that statement because I do see it as a weakness in high-tempo rallies. The big loopy swing just takes too much time and he often miss hits it when he doesn't have the time.
yokied
Hall of Fame
I reviewed the Med match to try to get a bit more of a read on what’s going on with him, but Tiafoe was showing some very encouraging signs tactically. Completely unrecognisable tactics from what I remember of him. Ferreira has definitely gone to work there and Tiafoe is clearly listening.
1st serve pace way down in the 100s to 110s, rolling them in. No stupid bailout shots or heroic groundstrokes. He settled in for long rallies, playing a lot of variety and junk. Tiafoe played a little too deep for too long in the rallies, but Med didn’t exactly punish it that well and gave Tiafoe lots of chances to pick his moment well to move up to the baseline, injecting pace and hitting decisively.
I have no idea if Tiafoe 2.0 goes anywhere but he’s only 23 and his backstory should supply him with enough grit to get himself back closer to the top of the sport.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Tiafoe highest ranking was 29 in 1st quarter 2019. Currently 67.
yokied
Hall of Fame
Tiafoe actually broke Med to go 2-1 up in the 2nd. Admittedly Med DF’d but he still got the break. Then he got really gassed, went down on his haunches at 0-15, copped a time violation. Med instantly raised his game, Tiafoe coughed up the break straight back. Physio called for Tiafoe at 3-2 sitdown. He sorta went away from that point, Med ran away with 6-3 close-out from there.
Also, the commentators mentioned that leading into that match Vs Med, Tiafoe won 3 consecutive matches after dropping the 1st, after having lost his previous 21 straight matches after dropping the 1st.
Maybe Frances is beginning to believe... A lot of us here want to believe too. Very encouraging signs until that 2-1 game in the 2nd.
Also, the commentators mentioned that leading into that match Vs Med, Tiafoe won 3 consecutive matches after dropping the 1st, after having lost his previous 21 straight matches after dropping the 1st.
Maybe Frances is beginning to believe... A lot of us here want to believe too. Very encouraging signs until that 2-1 game in the 2nd.
atatu
Legend
Well, he's back in the top 50 at least, I still feel like he's making some slow steady progress, he looked pretty good today.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
I really enjoy watching Tiafoe play, hopefully he gets higher in the ranking again
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Played and won against Shapovalov #5 seed in Montreal Open! Tiafoe is in the MD due a Lucky Loser status entry!
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I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
He routined peak Tsitsipas at Wimbledon and peak Shapovalov at Toronto
flyingboris
Legend
Suggested rename: "Tiafoe is not bad". If he keeps going like this we might even reach "Tiafoe is legit good".
Djokovic has nothing on gawd-level Tiafoe and his FH with perfect mechanics
in all honesty Tiafoe is pretty good, because his serve and FH allow him to get back into service games down 15-30 or 30-40 very easily. He isn't a top player but he has weapons and is a great athlete. Definitely a 'danger' player in early rounds of Slams due to his power.
What's the common factor with Tsitsi and Shapovalov? That's right, a genuinely terrible 1HBH return. He just targeted those whenever he got in trouble on his serve and they were helpless. I think it says more about Tsits and Shapo that Tiafoe can completely dismantle them than it does about Tiafoe tbh. But credit to him because his own returning and movement have improved a lot.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Tiafoe is like the tides during a full moon…highs and lows are radically different. Overlooked as a result of the “high” of beating Shapo 1&4 is that Frances got in the MD after the “low” of losing to Ruusuvuori by the exact same margin. Likewise, beating a very uninspired and bereaved (RIP Grandma Tsitsipas) Stefanos at Wimby in straight sets was a “high” but overlooked is the “low” of losing to Tsits in straight sets at Tokyo.He's seemingly bad again
Tiafoe was 1-4 h2h vs Shapo before 2R this week, including four straight. Lots of lows in that streak (2-8 in sets). Now he has a “high” but is it real or sugar?
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
Another solid win for Tiafoe, though he did makes things hard for himself. He was serving for the match at 5-1, and ended up winning in 8-6 in the tiebreak.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Seems it's real at last...
just discovered this thread today - love it, and love that bob started it
Tiafoe is 4-1 vs top 10 players since June 2021 - big foe on the come up! (as he would say)
stringertom
Bionic Poster
To make a 500 SF? Incomplete assignment. Tell us your evaluation after the weekend.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Well, I'm not sure his match against Sinner is a fair. But his wins against the top 10 aren't bad.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Beat Tsits straight sets (and Popsicle 2R) at Wimby; steamrolled by Khachanov 3R.
Beat Rublev 3R USO, lost to FAA 4R
Beat Shapo 2R Toronto, lost to Monfils R16
Beat Tsits R16 and Diego R16…(fill in the blank(s) after Saturday and/or Sunday.
Incomplete assignment as of today, Friday 29 October.
Do you see any factual information stated here incorrectly to further belabor the issue that this is an incomplete assignment?
Believe me, I’m not a Tiafoe hater…liked him longer than most have been following him. Would be pulling for him if and when he plays the 0 IQ guy with zero hands, zero variety except that I really like this particular ball basher with inferior tennis DNA from Innichen. His dad is a chef, not a former ATP pro that went 115-145 and made top 40 so Ruud obviously is superior gene wise. Gotta pull for the underdog.
I don’t know why you argue with my reasonable request to see us back here after the weekend instead of continuing to gloat after QFs.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
No one is arguing with you, so let's end it there. But to expect a qualifier to beat a former top 10 player and a soon-to-be top 10 player back-to-back in the later stages of a tournament and use it as the only metric is silly. We don't need to agree, and we don't need to discuss this further.
junior74
Bionic Poster
Yeah he's definitely having a solid week for a player who is "not good"
Tiafoe is not good, he is supermegaawesome
fluffyyelloballz
Rookie
He’s so good Sinner is crying about him in post match interview
norcal
Legend
OP also boldly predicted Brooksby would never crack the top 100...12 hours later Brooksby cracked the top 100!
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Frances is not good. He is very very good.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Very well by all accounts.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Tiafoe made it into the finals of the Erste Bank Open and was the runner up! Was close match again but Zverev had the answer to Tiafoe. Tiafoe is not going to go through the qualifying rounds of any tournaments from now on! 
Tiafoe gets 300 ranking points and $189K paycheck for his efforts!
Tiafoe gets 300 ranking points and $189K paycheck for his efforts!chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Nice. He is getting out of the woodwork and into the limelight.Tiafoe made it into the finals of the Erste Bank Open and was the runner up! Was close match again but Zverev had the answer to Tiafoe. Tiafoe is not going to go through the qualifying rounds of any tournaments from now on!
Heckuva player, hands feet smarts and heart.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
It has a lot to do with his mindset, I think he's just having a few good tournaments right now, I don't see much difference in his game. The way he has played this week, I've seen it multiple times, it's nothing new. He can defeat most or lose to anyone.
He feeds off the crowd SO much, it's incredible how much energy he gets from them. One of his problems has always been keeping that sort of energy for a whole match, cause when Tiafoe enters a mental slump, it's extremely difficult for him to get out of it.
He feeds off the crowd SO much, it's incredible how much energy he gets from them. One of his problems has always been keeping that sort of energy for a whole match, cause when Tiafoe enters a mental slump, it's extremely difficult for him to get out of it.
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