Tiafoe is not good.

It has a lot to do with his mindset, I think he's just having a few good tournaments right now, I don't see much difference in his game. The way he has played this week, I've seen it multiple times, it's nothing new. He can defeat most or lose to anyone.

He feeds off the crowd SO much, it's incredible how much energy he gets from them. One of his problems has always been keeping that sort of energy for a whole match, cause when Tiafoe enters a mental slump, it's extremely difficult for him to get out of it.

I think for him to come through qualies, to get through some very tough matches, and to reach the final, are all good signs. He not only fought for a hard-earned victory, but he also didn't lose one when things went sideways. He has a bad history of falling into a rut, but perhaps he's on the right track at last.

We'll have to wait and see.
 
I think for him to come through qualies, to get through some very tough matches, and to reach the final, are all good signs. He not only fought for a hard-earned victory, but he also didn't lose one when things went sideways. He has a bad history of falling into a rut, but perhaps he's on the right track at last.

We'll have to wait and see.

He did well in one tournament and everyone is so quickly to forget this:

 
He did well in one tournament and everyone is so quickly to forget this:


You are right in one sense.

Does this run mean he will win big tournaments? Does it mean he will beat Djokovic and the little 4? Does it mean that he will beat Schwartzman or Sinner the next time they play? Does it mean he won't go back to having more fun than wins on court?

No, to all above.

However, here's a guy coming from the qualies. He gets 2 good wins at one tournament against two players who played a final the week before.

That's a nice story, if nothing else.
 
Great week overall !

So do you maintain that he is "not good" and while we're at it what does "not good" mean to you ? Outside of the top 50 ? Because I don't think any player who is in the top 50 in the world can seriously be considered not good.

yeah, #40 in the live rankings, #24 in the 2022 race

the 24th best player in the NBA plays in the all-star game

pretty good in my book
 
I am curious to see if he'll have a let down after last week, but hopefully he can end the year on another high note.
 
The difference between Sinner and Foe is Sinner was runner up at an ATP1000 event and five ATP titles but one for Foe. Lack of respect for Sinner from Foe. He wouldn't pull that sh_t if it were Novak or Med.
 
The difference between Sinner and Foe is Sinner was runner up at an ATP1000 event and five ATP titles but one for Foe. Lack of respect for Sinner from Foe. He wouldn't pull that sh_t if it were Novak or Med.

Thanks for letting everyone know. You are a ATP fact machine.
 
The difference between Sinner and Foe is Sinner was runner up at an ATP1000 event and five ATP titles but one for Foe. Lack of respect for Sinner from Foe. He wouldn't pull that sh_t if it were Novak or Med.

Dude, it doesn't matter how many titles you have. If you can't close out a match from that score, you need to do some soul searching.
 
Tiafoe shares some points with another rising American, Giron, who now sits at #62

10 Americans in the top 62 in the world

only Spain can compare to that depth at this moment, with their 10th ranked player sitting at #88

I know we’d trade that in an instant for some top 10-20 players, but still impressive
 
Alright boomer

I'm only relaying what was reported in NY Mag:

It turns out that for the first half-dozen years of his tennis life, at least, Tiafoe was on his own. He got up, grabbed whatever racquet he felt like borrowing that morning from the pro shop, and wandered the grounds. He stood on the sidelines as other kids got lessons. He watched matches on the TV in the lounge, which was always set to the Tennis Channel, and tried out what he observed on the concrete wall just outside the gym, where, according to teachers and former students, Tiafoe routinely spent six to eight hours rallying with himself, devising an endless series of games and drills and challenges to stave off boredom. In the evening, when the paying and scholarship students went home, he set up camp on an empty court and hit serves, and in between, according to Frank Salazar, who coaches the academy’s elite players, “he would play anyone with a pulse.”

“In the beginning stages,” says Tiafoe, “I was just watching. I learned a lot from mimicking things and seeing little things. The next thing you know, I started to understand the game pretty well. One thing leads to another. I really studied a lot … watched a lot of film. Obviously, I didn’t have coaches or anything like that.”

Early profiles describe the young Tiafoe as a sponge, quietly taking in everything he sees and hears, absorbing the details and nuances of the game 24/7. It’s a good thing, because he wasn’t getting much formal instruction from anyone else. According to 21-year-old Luca Corinteli, also a product of the JTCC and now a UVA senior who plans to turn pro next year, the reason Tiafoe’s game still looks other than textbook is that in the critical early stages of his development, he was essentially self-taught, and those lessons were imprinted by hammering countless balls against a wall.
And "Bam!", I just realized, I'm the Tiafoe of the tennis amateur world!
 
Well, it’s not a weak era anymore. There’s so many guys right now that are younger, who are a threat at every tournament.

Only Meddy has broken through at the Slams so far. If Zod is the third or fourth best player on hardcourts and he has no top 10 wins at a Slam, where are we?

Anyways, back to the topic at hand, Tiafoe has more top 10 wins at Slams than Zod.
 
He lost to multi GS champion who has several years past his prime with multiple hip surgeries.

Murray beat Sinner today, in straight sets

i'm torn between:
option A - pointing out that Murray has now beaten the #9 and #11 guys in the world in the last couple weeks, and can still beat just about anyone in the world on a good day
option B - asking if Sinner is 'not good' also

can i do both?
 
Murray beat Sinner today, in straight sets

i'm torn between:
option A - pointing out that Murray has now beaten the #9 and #11 guys in the world in the last couple weeks, and can still beat just about anyone in the world on a good day
option B - asking if Sinner is 'not good' also

can i do both?

The Amaaazing Muzzah!

However, Sinner is only 20. I sometimes think this version of Murray could beat young Murray, too.
 
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lol young murray beat fed in 2006
Just my 2 cents: I think Murray wasn’t necessarily in his prime back then but was just good at making peak Fed uncomfortable. Federer was amazing back then but had some trouble adapting to certain styles. Players like Murray and Simon could bother him, but I felt like he just couldn’t be bothered to do anything about it since he was winning 3 slams per year anyway.

Murray at his best was after 2010 imo, when he started getting beefed up
 
He has discovered that he can win by distracting the opponents. Questionable sportsmanship. Effective nonetheless.
Unfortunately I didn’t watch it. only saw the score.
Umm...so why did you post about him 'distracting opponents'? Maybe you should stick with the facts.

The only thing Tiafoe did vs Korda and Fokina was interact with the crowd, get them involved in the match, and then feed off their energy. Not questionable sportsmanship at all. In fact, more players should do that. Makes for a more entertaining match.
 
He has discovered that he can win by distracting the opponents. Questionable sportsmanship. Effective nonetheless.
It is actually totally true, just watch what clown show he produced when he was losing against Sinner in Vienna I think it was. And he does this almost always when he is a set down. But today he was even too tired for doing this clown show. Can't respect this guy
 
It is actually totally true, just watch what clown show he produced when he was losing against Sinner in Vienna I think it was. And he does this almost always when he is a set down. But today he was even too tired for doing this clown show. Can't respect this guy
I'm sure he's crushed that you don't respect him :p
 
You guys don’t even read English then you post on an English forum. I didn’t watch the final, but I watched the previous matches. Now don’t you look like an idiot?
Please link me to a post in this thread that points out you "didn’t watch the final, but watched the previous matches", because I certainly cannot find one.

All I have to go by for you is the following:

Posted Sunday morning, after the Korda match:
He has discovered that he can win by distracting the opponents. Questionable sportsmanship. Effective nonetheless.
Posted Sunday afternoon, after the final:
Unfortunately I didn’t watch it. only saw the score.

So, again, how am I to understand you "watched the previous matches" from the above posts? Or am I expected to read your mind? And what exactly did he do in the previous matches that was so egregious? Because I also watched them and did not see anything other than him engaging with the crowd.
 
Please link me to a post in this thread that points out you "didn’t watch the final, but watched the previous matches", because I certainly cannot find one.

All I have to go by for you is the following:

Posted Sunday morning, after the Korda match:

Posted Sunday afternoon, after the final:


So, again, how am I to understand you "watched the previous matches" from the above posts? Or am I expected to read your mind? And what exactly did he do in the previous matches that was so egregious? Because I also watched them and did not see anything other than him engaging with the crowd.
Well, obviously you have strong feelings about the subject matter, so let’s leave it at that. It’s not something I care to comment on more than I have already.
 
Well, obviously you have strong feelings about the subject matter, so let’s leave it at that. It’s not something I care to comment on more than I have already.
No, I have strong feelings on you attempting to call me an idiot. So, please, explain how I'm to understand what you've seen from those two posts I referenced above?
 
No, I have strong feelings on you attempting to call me an idiot. So, please, explain how I'm to understand what you've seen from those two posts I referenced above?
I still regard you as one to be honest. All what you did in your previous post is construct a straw man in order to justify your initial reply. Whatever, I’m not going to engage you further. You’re obviously not a sincere poster. You’re only looking to start an argument. I don’t have the patience for that. Take care.
 
No, I have strong feelings on you attempting to call me an idiot. So, please, explain how I'm to understand what you've seen from those two posts I referenced above?

yeah, I read it the same way you did - he was very unclear at best
 
It is actually totally true, just watch what clown show he produced when he was losing against Sinner in Vienna I think it was. And he does this almost always when he is a set down. But today he was even too tired for doing this clown show. Can't respect this guy

What do you think of Bublik?
 
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