Tier 1 Black Knight

Hey guys, I’m probably gonna string my RF97 with the Tier 1 Black Knight and YTEX Quadro Twist, so anyone want to suggest what tension I should put it at , BK on the Mains, and QT on the Crosses
 

topspn

Legend
I have played both and like both especially BK but never hybrid them. Kinda of a strange decision in all honesty, I don’t get two shaped polys being combined. To what end? I string up between 48-50 depending on seasons and don’t see a reason not to hybrid at that tension if that’s what you want
 
I have played both and like both especially BK but never hybrid them. Kinda of a strange decision in all honesty, I don’t get two shaped polys being combined. To what end? I string up between 48-50 depending on seasons and don’t see a reason not to hybrid at that tension if that’s what you want
Does it break quicker than the Hyper G, the Hyper G lasted me around 2 weeks
 

topspn

Legend
Well, that depends if you’re a big hitter and what gauge hyper G or BK. Hyper has a variety of gauges and so does BK but Quadra twist just 1.25. So there are variables of gauge and how often you hit. What gauge hyper G, tension and how many hours before you broke it?
 
I had 17G Hyper G and in all I think played with it for about 15 hours, and yes im a big hitter and I usually break the most durable string in around a few weeks if I play around 7 hours a week
 

topspn

Legend
I had 17G Hyper G and in all I think played with it for about 15 hours, and yes im a big hitter and I usually break the most durable string in around a few weeks if I play around 7 hours a week
Ok so you’re playing with 1.20mm gauge. In all honesty, I change my strings around 10hrs as its done by then. I have broken both strings before but within the 10 hr frame it is not excessive. I played QT 1.25 and BK 1.28 for reference
 
Ok so you’re playing with 1.20mm gauge. In all honesty, I change my strings around 10hrs as its done by then. I have broken both strings before but within the 10 hr frame it is not excessive. I played QT 1.25 and BK 1.28 for reference
Ok, and what exact tension would you recommend for both of the strings
 

topspn

Legend
Like I said, I’ve never hybrid them together but each one in full bed between 48-50lbs in 95-97 head size racquet works great
 
My starting point would be to string mains at 55# and QPT at 52#. Normally, I put my cross string 6# below the mains, but QPT is a lively string so I'm putting it in a little higher than normal.
 

matchpoint9

Rookie
Hey guys, I’m probably gonna string my RF97 with the Tier 1 Black Knight and YTEX Quadro Twist, so anyone want to suggest what tension I should put it at , BK on the Mains, and QT on the Crosses
I'm not sure why you want to hybrid two shaped polys. I hybrid BK with another Tier One strings, the Ghostwire. They even sell the BK/GW hybrid in a set. Head and others also sell hybrid poly sets but generally the cross strings are smooth / round and slick. The GW is ideal for crosses and hybrid, even Tier One said so on their website.

I use 47/46 for my hybrid of BK/GW, I'm playing with 18x20 frame. BK is probably considered medium soft poly with phenomenal control and pocketing, GW is on the softer side. By hybriding BK/GW, the stringbed feels softer than using all BK (I've tried it), while the BK characteristics are still dominant. It's a great combo in my experience.

Sometimes "theory" doesn't mean a thing if it works for you, maybe BK/QT will work well -- I don't know. But look at Ghostwire.

As far as comparison to HyperG, BK is softer. Control is similar. I'd say Hyper G retains its tension or elasticity longer. I think BK becomes noticeably stiffer-feeling (aka "dead") after about 15-20 hours of playing.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Not sure if I'm allowed to post links of non-TW reviews, but if you search for "tier one black knight review" on youtube, the first result should be a guy that compares it to hyper-G for a portion of the review, and he also has a separate hyper-G review on his channel.

I tried Black Knight myself and prefer Hyper G overall if comparing the two because Hyper G provides me with a bit more pop and slightly better feel, but really liked Black Knight too. They both lasted about the same amount of time for me. Maybe it also depends on the racquet too? I tend to gravitate toward flexy, control oriented frames so I like having some extra pop from my strings which is why I preferred Hyper G over BK.
 

ls206

Professional
So I've played with Black Knight 1.23/Ghost Wire 1.22 a little recently and thought I'd add my thoughts.

I usually play with HyperG 1.25 @ 22/21kg on a modded Ultra Tour

I strung up the hybrid at 22/21kg, I was tempted to go up 0.5 or even 1kg to account for the lower gauge and softer cross string but didn't, in favour of a softer string bed.

The first thing I noticed, as to be expected, was the increased ball pocketing/dwell and comfort. This also came with a higher launch angle and the feeling of less control.
I think the main reason for the feeling of less control is that I couldn't feel the strings grip the ball as much as I do with HyperG. With HyperG you can swing at a moderate speed but still get some good bite and spin whereas with the BK/GW the swing/spin relationship seems more linear but easily matches HyperG at higher racquet speeds.

In terms of power, I've found that the BK/GW has a power ceiling. What I mean by this is that at some point, the power of the string plateaus and the harder you hit the ball doesn't necessarily equate to a much faster shot (but results in some very heavy spin). There were a couple of times I thought I had completely overhit but the ball landed in, even on flatter shots.
I attribute this to the Black Knight and I think this is probably why it has been recommended for 5.0 players up as it gives more control the harder you hit.

Overall it's a nice setup and gave me the extra comfort I was looking for.
I will be trying the combo again but may put 1.28mm in the mains to give a little more grip on slower swings (we don't all have Nadal's biceps!).
 
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