Tier one FireWire stringing

Tennis_Monk

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I got hold of two sets of tier one FireWire 17.

I saw in this forum regarding stringing it in a certain way ( triangular shaped string) has an impact on spin production.

Can anyone share tips on how I should go about stringing this new string so that I can get max out of this?
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I got hold of two sets of tier one FireWire 17.

I saw in this forum regarding stringing it in a certain way ( triangular shaped string) has an impact on spin production.

Can anyone share tips on how I should go about stringing this new string so that I can get max out of this?

Use it in the mains and use a slick round poly in the crosses for best spin and control.

It’s not a durable string, especially in this gauge. Expect it to shear along the length of the string.
 

CopolyX

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Just search there are many threads already on firewire, but I will try to make it short...


Also shaped strings and ball bite is not the key element of spin...a lot more then that, it is not just one string element.
Key impact on spin is racquet angle and swing speed first and foremost.
Then adding the goldllock princple for the best string configuration (stringbed).
If have found (many others also - and some studies) that hybrid two difference strings can even give more spin potential that the same two strings!
Strings are rated by TW lab on spin "potential"



howework:
http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/articles/2017/05/16_is_your_string_in_shape.html

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringmovementPart2.php

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringballfriction.php


ultimate spin string (i.e., maximum spin generation) involves maximizing string-to-ball friction while minimizing inter-string friction.
 

Tennis_Monk

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Just search there are many threads already on firewire, but I will try to make it short...


Also shaped strings and ball bite is not the key element of spin...a lot more then that, it is not just one string element.
Key impact on spin is racquet angle and swing speed first and foremost.
Then adding the goldllock princple for the best string configuration (stringbed).
If have found (many others also - and some studies) that hybrid two difference strings can even give more spin potential that the same two strings!
Strings are rated by TW lab on spin "potential"



howework:
http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/articles/2017/05/16_is_your_string_in_shape.html

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringmovementPart2.php

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringballfriction.php


ultimate spin string (i.e., maximum spin generation) involves maximizing string-to-ball friction while minimizing inter-string friction.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it. I did search on the forum and there isn’t much info on how to string it for optimal spin. there are threads mentioning about how the orientation of the shape has an impact on spin during playing and hence this thread. None referenced a specific pattern to use for this string.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it. I did search on the forum and there isn’t much info on how to string it for optimal spin. there are threads mentioning about how the orientation of the shape has an impact on spin during playing and hence this thread. None referenced a specific pattern to use for this string.

All you need to do is make sure it stays straight rather than coiled. The flat surface will naturally face the crosses and the sharp edge will face the ball.
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
note: take this with a grain of salt , your mileage may vary - for me.....not a fan of triangle strings. i find a bit of inconsistently in launch from this type of shaped string..
it is your hands that matter....
I do not try to discourage anyone from trying a string.
many have surprised me - in a good way , maybe this one will surprise you !
 

Tennis_Monk

Hall of Fame
All you need to do is make sure it stays straight rather than coiled. The flat surface will naturally face the crosses and the sharp edge will face the ball.
Thank you. That’s the specific info I was looking for.

Appreciate everyone’s feedback. I hope to string this today and play in evening if all goes per plan. I will keep this thread posted.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Scotus is saying keep the string from twisting as much as you can as you tension them. That is not hard to do, but you have to pay attention to the strings' tendency to twist as you pull them thru the mains. You will have to manually straighten them as much as possible. I am not a fan of pointy strings because those points wear quickly. And spin/launch angle becomes quite erratic. For overall performance, textured strings i.e. rough is better over the life of the stringbed.
 

Tennis_Monk

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Scotus is saying keep the string from twisting as much as you can as you tension them. That is not hard to do, but you have to pay attention to the strings' tendency to twist as you pull them thru the mains. You will have to manually straighten them as much as possible. I am not a fan of pointy strings because those points wear quickly. And spin/launch angle becomes quite erratic. For overall performance, textured strings i.e. rough is better over the life of the stringbed.
Agree. As you may be aware from some of my threads in stringing machines section, I recently took up stringing and experimenting with strings. It’s been an interesting ride thus far and learnt a lot. There’s a few that surprised me a but still looking for an Alu power like performance with more spin and penetration.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
The secret to Luxilon strings is they do not seem to use too much other polymers in their strings. 4 to 8 hours max is all you will get aside from 4G. Their cost is a burden if you are not sponsored by them. You could try Solinco Tour Bite, Dunlop Black Widow, WC Turbotwist, Prince XP, Tourna BHSR or Gamma Zo. However, no strings exist out there that feels and plays like Luxilon due to their formulation. Good Luck because you are going down a rabbit hole.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
This is what works for me...

"After threading a cross string, before applying tension. I push/pull the loose string so that it touches the previously tensioned string. When you then pull tension on the string, as it slides into position, the hypotenuse or adjacent angle of the string will rotate and rest on the cross string. Stringing all the crosses this way puts all right angles (sharp edges) of Firewire facing up on the face of the string bed. Since I started pushing the crosses up before pulling tension, in all of the Firewire sticks brought to me for restringing it is the main that snap and generally one of the middle four."

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/tier-one-sports.601641/page-3

The one thing to watch out with Firewire is make sure when you pull tension, the string doesn't crossover on itself on the tensioner. That will cause the string suffer a bite mark and could weaken the integrity at the crossover point.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
... i find a bit of inconsistently in launch from this type of shaped string ...

I will second this observation made by CopolyX. After I started using the technique I highlight above, there was much more consistent flight and control off the overall string bed. You can tell you my method right if you run you finger along a cross and feel sharp edge facing up on the middle 2/3 or so of the mains.
 

Tennis_Monk

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I just strung one up recently. I just strung it like I normally would— didn’t focus on edges or etc.

It’s playing beautifully so far. Very impressed. 12 plus hours and still going strong.
 
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