Tier One Ghostwire

Dartagnan64

Legend
Used Ghostwire 1.10 in my Phantom 100 18x20 last night for Men's doubles. Cross string in a gut/poly hybrid. Really nice feel and very similar to Cream. I'd give it points for liveliness, spin and comfort over Cream but that might just be the gauge being thinner. I imagine 19g Cream would behave in a similar fashion but they don't offer thin gauge Cream beyond 17g.

Plus Ghostwire in a Phantom just sounds right lol
 
Used Ghostwire 1.10 in my Phantom 100 18x20 last night for Men's doubles. Cross string in a gut/poly hybrid. Really nice feel and very similar to Cream. I'd give it points for liveliness, spin and comfort over Cream but that might just be the gauge being thinner. I imagine 19g Cream would behave in a similar fashion but they don't offer thin gauge Cream beyond 17g.

Plus Ghostwire in a Phantom just sounds right lol
Sounds like a good choice.. what tension did you string it at?
 
I've spent the last week testing Ghost Wire crosses with Grapplesnake's Cube. The Cliff Note version is the two play very, very nice together. More details in this thread: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/grapplesnake-cube.629084/#post-13211330 The spin potential, IMHO, is about dead even. Firewire has a higher launch angle and sharper descent than Cube. Cube feels like it delivers a little more pace, but that may be because I was hitting flatter balls. Worth a try together.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Seems like Ghostwire crosses is great for softening up any string setup but especially for poly/poly hybrids where you can put a stiff/shaped poly in the mains and soften up the feel without compromising spin and control, as opposed to using something like a multifilament cross for a the softening effect.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Been using gut/Ghostwire for a about 10 hrs now in my Phantom 100 18x20. It does lose a bit more tension than Cream but I think that is likely because I ma comparing 19g to 17g strings. Its still very playable and still has great spin potential. Precision is down a notch but power is probably perfect at this point.
 

tennismonkey

Semi-Pro
Played 3 hours (6 sets) of dubs last nite with GW 17g full bed strung at 48 pounds in Yonex AI 100. I have had elbow tendinitis, wrist pain, shoulder pain this past year so my buddy on the forums recommended this string.

Previous string choices are typically full bed Cyberflash or Tour Bite.

From the first hit and all shots after, this felt softer and more comfortable than Tour Bite or Tour Bite Soft. Had really nice pocketing which made touch shots, drop volleys, offensive lobs, overall control really good. The feel is the best aspect for me.

Spin and Power to me was average at best. A lot less spin than Tour Bite. A good bit less than Cyberflash. A lot less power than say an ALU Power.

Interesting string. Great comfort, control, feel. Middling spin and power. For me with my elbow, wrist, shoulder issues - I'll take it. But next time I'd like to try GW 17 as a cross paired with something with more spin and pop.
 
Played 3 hours (6 sets) of dubs last nite with GW 17g full bed strung at 48 pounds in Yonex AI 100. I have had elbow tendinitis, wrist pain, shoulder pain this past year so my buddy on the forums recommended this string.

Previous string choices are typically full bed Cyberflash or Tour Bite.

From the first hit and all shots after, this felt softer and more comfortable than Tour Bite or Tour Bite Soft. Had really nice pocketing which made touch shots, drop volleys, offensive lobs, overall control really good. The feel is the best aspect for me.

Spin and Power to me was average at best. A lot less spin than Tour Bite. A good bit less than Cyberflash. A lot less power than say an ALU Power.

Interesting string. Great comfort, control, feel. Middling spin and power. For me with my elbow, wrist, shoulder issues - I'll take it. But next time I'd like to try GW 17 as a cross paired with something with more spin and pop.
Based on your review you might want to give Firewire BOOST a try. It is basically a hybrid poly/poly string set with T1-Firewire for the mains and Ghost Wire Boost for the crosses. This setup should keep the playing experience somewhat comfortable and increase spin potential dramatically!
 

o0lunatik

Professional
A soft, arm-friendly poly with excellent control for touch and feel! ... My primary string has been Firewire in the mains for the past 5+years. For my cross string, I have tried every string TierOne offered, just about every popular polys on the market, and many others not-so popular brands out there.

Over the weekend, I had 18G Firewire crossed with 17G (1.22mm) ghost wire at 48lbs on my 18x20 blade, and instantly, I noticed that GW definitely added some plushness to the string bed with excellent control for a string of this nature. Usually I can feel the stiffness of my blade at max compression before the ball shoots back, but with GW, I did not feel that usual stiff response from my blade. I did not noticed any loss of control as I would expect from a softer poly. Power was average at best, which was well-balanced with control. I didn't feel like I've lost any spin, and what I truly enjoy is the extra dwell time on the string bed for the more touch/finesse shots.

I've only logged in a couple of sets with this current setup and can't really comment on tension maintenance, but usually TierOne strings are great in this category. This string is a must try for those who are looking to add a softer response to their string bed or looking for an arm friendly poly!
 
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Testing solstice power 18g/ghost wire 19g right now at 21.5/19.5kg.
Very nice hybrid. Nice spin, medium/high power, good control, very good tension maintenance (7% loss after 2 hours of intense drilling) and very comfortable. Some notching on the solstice power.
Actually this is the my first time in over six months with a full poly setup. My elbow has not complained a bit with this... I am impressed.
Next will be BHB7/GW, Black knight/GW and I may even try alu power/GW. What do you think of that last combo?
 

JOSHL

Professional
Testing solstice power 18g/ghost wire 19g right now at 21.5/19.5kg.
Very nice hybrid. Nice spin, medium/high power, good control, very good tension maintenance (7% loss after 2 hours of intense drilling) and very comfortable. Some notching on the solstice power.
Actually this is the my first time in over six months with a full poly setup. My elbow has not complained a bit with this... I am impressed.
Next will be BHB7/GW, Black knight/GW and I may even try alu power/GW. What do you think of that last combo?
I think you should try them all and report back! Lol
 

spinerella

New User
A soft, arm-friendly poly with excellent control for touch and feel! ... My primary string has been Firewire in the mains for the past 5+years. For my cross string, I have tried every string TierOne offered, just about every popular polys on the market, and many others not-so popular brands out there.

Over the weekend, I had 18G Firewire crossed with 17G (1.22mm) ghost wire at 48lbs on my 18x20 blade, and instantly, I noticed that GW definitely added some plushness to the string bed with excellent control for a string of this nature. Usually I can feel the stiffness of my blade at max compression before the ball shoots back, but with GW, I did not feel that usual stiff response from my blade. I did not noticed any loss of control as I would expect from a softer poly. Power was average at best, which was well-balanced with control. I didn't feel like I've lost any spin, and what I truly enjoy is the extra dwell time on the string bed for the more touch/finesse shots.

I've only logged in a couple of sets with this current setup and can't really comment on tension maintenance, but usually TierOne strings are great in this category. This string is a must try for those who are looking to add a softer response to their string bed or looking for an arm friendly poly!
So, is the feel of the Firewire/Ghost hybrid only soft/plush? iI there any crispness in that stringbed?
 

GripItNRipIt

New User
I'm loving Hyper G at 48/46 in my PS97 right now. Very comfortable and great spin. Any idea how Firewire/Ghost hybrid would compare? The Hyper G feels very low powered, which is great most of the time for aggressive cuts at the ball, but a disadvantage on the run/defending. I could use a little more power when flicking the racquet on wide shots.
 
I now have tried ALU Rough/GW 1.10 @ 20.5/19.5 kg and ALU/GW 1.10 @ 22/21 kg in 16x20, 98sqin fairly open pattern.
Both are great for the first couple of hours. Comfy with very nice bite/spin and control. The pop of alu is still there and feels very nice.
But I have a problem... in both setups, like in the solstice power/gw setup I tried before, the mains are sticking out of place after the 2nd hour of hitting.
The problem is more pronounced with alu rough where both mains and crosses stick out of place. Is it because of the low tension?
 

Doubles

Legend
I now have tried ALU Rough/GW 1.10 @ 20.5/19.5 kg and ALU/GW 1.10 @ 22/21 kg in 16x20, 98sqin fairly open pattern.
Both are great for the first couple of hours. Comfy with very nice bite/spin and control. The pop of alu is still there and feels very nice.
But I have a problem... in both setups, like in the solstice power/gw setup I tried before, the mains are sticking out of place after the 2nd hour of hitting.
The problem is more pronounced with alu rough where both mains and crosses stick out of place. Is it because of the low tension?
How notched are your mains? I've found that ALU Rough only starts getting stuck without snapping back when it's close to breaking.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Tried it and I didn't like it, it has decent spin, but its not as soft as I thought, its similar as wilson revolve for me in many respects, so a good string but not super soft for sure.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Tried it and I didn't like it, it has decent spin, but its not as soft as I thought, its similar as wilson revolve for me in many respects, so a good string but not super soft for sure.
Which gauge? Ghostwire is pretty soft in the 18-19g for sure. I think it holds tension better than Revolve.
 
I just drilled for an hour with "black knight boost" 1.23 bk / 1.10 gw @ 22/21 kg. Compared to alu/gw this one was a little stiffer in the beginning. Excellent control and as much spin as alu/gw. A little less power. Holds tension better for the time being.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Ultimately caved in and got a 14x18 phantom 93P and I will be ordering some thicker gauge black knight and ghostwire since all I have are 18 gauge of those strings. In the meantime I do have a half set of 17g FireWire and a set of 17g cream I never got around to trying, I wonder if I string up the FireWire on the mains and cream on the crosses it will be similar enough to the FireWire boost?
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Ultimately caved in and got a 14x18 phantom 93P and I will be ordering some thicker gauge black knight and ghostwire since all I have are 18 gauge of those strings. In the meantime I do have a half set of 17g FireWire and a set of 17g cream I never got around to trying, I wonder if I string up the FireWire on the mains and cream on the crosses it will be similar enough to the FireWire boost?
I think so. Cream and Ghostwire are pretty similar with a bit more comfort from cream and a bit more slippery from ghostwire.
 

ductrung3993

Hall of Fame
Got my introductory set today. Plan to hybrid them all like this, what do you guys think?

T1-Firewire + Ghost Wire
Black Knight + Strike Force RIP
 

hurworld

Professional
Surprising so few reviews on this string. Sounds like a better Isospeed Cream alternative? Even better that you can get it in 1.10mm thickness? How good is the tension maintenance compared to other soft polys?
 
Got my introductory set today. Plan to hybrid them all like this, what do you guys think?

T1-Firewire + Ghost Wire
Black Knight + Strike Force RIP

I think once you dial in your tension, you will like the FW/GW combo. I haven't played Black Knight yet, but RIP is definitely one of my favorite strings and stock.

I have a RIP 17g/GW 19g combo strung up now in one stick. The string bed is incredibly slippery, which is a pleasure to play with depending on the humidity.
 
Even better that you can get it in 1.10mm thickness? How good is the tension maintenance compared to other soft polys?
Tension maintenance IMHO is excellent if you are playing under consistent temperature conditions. I only use it in hybrid setups, not full bed, and cut it out after about 20 hours. By then the string bed becomes a rocket launcher depending on what is used for mains.
 

mikeler

Moderator
I think once you dial in your tension, you will like the FW/GW combo. I haven't played Black Knight yet, but RIP is definitely one of my favorite strings and stock.

I have a RIP 17g/GW 19g combo strung up now in one stick. The string bed is incredibly slippery, which is a pleasure to play with depending on the humidity.
I haven't tried RIP yet but FW/GW has been my setup for a couple years now. BK is really good too, so I can't see how BK/GW would not be good as well. GW should be the cross string IMHO.
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
I haven't tried RIP yet but FW/GW has been my setup for a couple years now. BK is really good too, so I can't see how BK/GW would not be good as well. GW should be the cross string IMHO.
how does ghostwire compare to YPTP or SPPP as a cross string in terms of power/comfort/spin/tension maintenance?


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GW should be the cross string IMHO.
I agree. I've tried GW in full bed and as the mains with another cross and quite honestly it wasn't that great for me. As a cross string, I haven't played with one that's better.

Last night, I hit with the RIP/GW combo and with my other fav combo RIP mains with another slippery cross string, Prince XC Experimental. RIP/XC has been my go to combo the last couple of months. What the set up lacks in power/pace potential, it makes up for it in terms of spin and control.

The RIP/GW set up OTOH produces ample pace easily and definitely puts more RPM on the ball. The only drawback for me is it kinda lack predictable control. May be I just need to play with it longer. I'd definitely would recommend the set up to the slice and bunt style players and baseliners who aren't trying to hit small targets and like to keep opponents behind the baseline.
 
I agree. I've tried GW in full bed and as the mains with another cross and quite honestly it wasn't that great for me. As a cross string, I haven't played with one that's better.

Last night, I hit with the RIP/GW combo and with my other fav combo RIP mains with another slippery cross string, Prince XC Experimental. RIP/XC has been my go to combo the last couple of months. What the set up lacks in power/pace potential, it makes up for it in terms of spin and control.

The RIP/GW set up OTOH produces ample pace easily and definitely puts more RPM on the ball. The only drawback for me is it kinda lack predictable control. May be I just need to play with it longer. I'd definitely would recommend the set up to the slice and bunt style players and baseliners who aren't trying to hit small targets and like to keep opponents behind the baseline.
do you find RIP mains stick put of place with GW crosses? T1 states that RIP doesn't return to original position...?
 
And thanks for all the responses btw.
You're welcome.


Could you elaborate more on that?
If someone hits a pretty flat ball I imagine high humidity isn't an issue, but for me poly strings and a high dew point equals really poor play. I played a match a couple weeks ago in the morning where the humidity was oppressive and temperature was already into the up 80s. We were drenched during the warm-up. During the actually match I could not keep the ball in the court. I was hitting about 2-3 feet long on every ground stroke. It was so bad that I was hitting ball long using a zero take-back with just a flick of my wrist. Trying to hit with more top spin was worse. I hit more balls into the net in that one match than I have in past three weeks. I could hear the ball squeak and squeal - like fingers on a chalk board - as the strings slide across it before smacking the tape. I was frustrated beyond belief and double bageled. It was a deju vu match. I played the same guy on the same court in the same conditions and lost 8 months earlier, too.

Sulking, I watched a few other matches and noticed most of the players had softer strings like nylon, multi or sgut strings. Their play did not seem to suffer. The next muggy day I strung up a stick with cheap nylon and went out and played. After adjusting to the feel, I played like my normal self. About 1/2 hour later I switched to one poly set up and another. With both string sets, I was hitting long by a few feet consistently. I switch back to the nylon set up and "bam", I'm playing to normal. What's interesting is on a typical summer day, the same two poly set ups play wonderfully and predictably.

A few days later after a big rain, I repeated the experiment with multi-filament string in nearly the same humid conditions and got the same results. The multi string and nylon beds played let me play my normal game with few UFE while my other three poly setups consistently sent ground strokes long with the same swing.

What I've learned in the last month is humidity, especially in the high range, affects poly string performance not just with GW, RIP or any other poly. The question is how to string poly to get the same playability as nylon or a multifilament. I think the answer is to increase the cross tension by 3-5 pounds, and what I will try the next time I'm on the courts on a muggy day.
 
do you find RIP mains stick put of place with GW crosses? T1 states that RIP doesn't return to original position...?
RIP's textured surface is the culprit. The don't always line up with the grommets. The deep notches in RIP definetly don't allow the opposite string to line up after impact. Looking at my strings, it is the GW crosses that don't line back up. In my other racquet with FW mains and RIP crosses, the mains look like they need little tweaking. In my experience, the non-RIP string returns to the nearest notch close to it 'home' position. One or two notches off after a rally I don't worry about it personally. When a string ends up 3 or 4 notches away from the straight line position in the bed, it tells me that it is probably time to restring. Honestly, it seems like the more racquet head speed I hit with the less I need to go through and straighten a string or two after a rally.
 

mikeler

Moderator
You're welcome.




If someone hits a pretty flat ball I imagine high humidity isn't an issue, but for me poly strings and a high dew point equals really poor play. I played a match a couple weeks ago in the morning where the humidity was oppressive and temperature was already into the up 80s. We were drenched during the warm-up. During the actually match I could not keep the ball in the court. I was hitting about 2-3 feet long on every ground stroke. It was so bad that I was hitting ball long using a zero take-back with just a flick of my wrist. Trying to hit with more top spin was worse. I hit more balls into the net in that one match than I have in past three weeks. I could hear the ball squeak and squeal - like fingers on a chalk board - as the strings slide across it before smacking the tape. I was frustrated beyond belief and double bageled. It was a deju vu match. I played the same guy on the same court in the same conditions and lost 8 months earlier, too.

Sulking, I watched a few other matches and noticed most of the players had softer strings like nylon, multi or sgut strings. Their play did not seem to suffer. The next muggy day I strung up a stick with cheap nylon and went out and played. After adjusting to the feel, I played like my normal self. About 1/2 hour later I switched to one poly set up and another. With both string sets, I was hitting long by a few feet consistently. I switch back to the nylon set up and "bam", I'm playing to normal. What's interesting is on a typical summer day, the same two poly set ups play wonderfully and predictably.

A few days later after a big rain, I repeated the experiment with multi-filament string in nearly the same humid conditions and got the same results. The multi string and nylon beds played let me play my normal game with few UFE while my other three poly setups consistently sent ground strokes long with the same swing.

What I've learned in the last month is humidity, especially in the high range, affects poly string performance not just with GW, RIP or any other poly. The question is how to string poly to get the same playability as nylon or a multifilament. I think the answer is to increase the cross tension by 3-5 pounds, and what I will try the next time I'm on the courts on a muggy day.
What tension do you have your poly at? I'm at 56# these days and it was almost 100 degrees when I played yesterday. No issues hitting long unless I was off balance.
 
Just played Mantis Tri-Spin 125/ ghostwire 117 @ 22kg in a 98 16x20 for an hour. Tri-Spin boost....

It's wonderful. Low power, excellent control, excellent spin and very plush/comfy. Now I have not played Firewire boost so I cannot offer a comparison but based on the comments here and elsewhere I am going to assume that firewire is probably a little crisper and higher power than tri-spin.

Compared to the black knight/ghostwire, tri-spin/ghostwire is lower powered with better control, spin and comfort.

Next will be durafluxx boost in a couple of weeks. I am finding durafluxx to be an exceptional string btw.
 
What tension do you have your poly at? I'm at 56# these days and it was almost 100 degrees when I played yesterday. No issues hitting long unless I was off balance.
It is around 97º right now and I have a doubs match in an hour.

Recently, I started hitting with a Wilson Brave that I beefed up (and rebalanced) to 12.6 at 35#. This is an exception for me. As for tension, it really, really really - as I just learned - depends on the stick. In my Pure Control 98s, which I use most of the time, fattened to 13.6 oz, the mains have to be somewhere between 65# and 73# range with the crosses 6# lower.
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
im wondering if it’s just me but i hate the feel of this string...too crisp for my taste...i like YPTP/SPPP soft muted low powered feel from my cross string


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im wondering if it’s just me but i hate the feel of this string...too crisp for my taste...i like YPTP/SPPP soft muted low powered feel from my cross string
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Probably not you. I have racquets in three different brands, head sizes, ect. Every string I stock feels "different" in each one. It might not "feel" that great in the stick you are playing with. Switch to a different stick, or may be change main string and/or tension, and it feels like the best thing since sliced bread.
 
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