Tier One Ghostwire

Been reading a bunch of threads with info. on Ghostwire, bc I got some that I plan to use soon. I initially chose GW due to its alleged softness and good fit in hybrid, esp. as a slick cross. After ditching polys 6 year ago due to TE, been using Kev-Zyex and pretty happy with it. Lately, I got the experimental bug and am now trying out some super soft copolys inky in hybrid with my Clash 100.

So the two setups I’m trying are Kevlar main/Copooy crosses and Copoly mains/ Zyex crosses. Both have their clear strengths. (I am a spin doctor who takes big topspin cuts unless I’m slicing.)

I’m seeing that GW is great as a slick cross, but I hesitate to go as low 48 tension with a 100 sq. in. 16x 19 frame with my big cuts. I’m thinking of maybe 57kevlar mains/ 53 GW crosses. I’ll report back.
 
For what it’s worth, have used Kevlar mains 56/ Cyberflash crosses at 54 and loved it! The ultimate control setup just may be kevlar mains and slick copoly cross. Can’t wait to tru the GW!
 
Based on what is said here, Cream seems close to GW… I will never use full poly bc of TE fears (already had cortisone shots a few years ago), so I’m experimenting with soft copolys in hybrid only. The control with Kevlar mains and copoly crosses is out of this world, but you gotta swing big and take cuts. The slice is also just awesome with it,too and I hit with spin exclusively. The flattest shots that come off my racket are block returns off hard, flat serves, short hops at my feet, and occasional slap shots to someone at net to set up a two-shot pass.
 
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For what it’s worth, have used Kevlar mains 56/ Cyberflash crosses at 54 and loved it! The ultimate control setup just may be kevlar mains and slick copoly cross. Can’t wait to tru the GW!
I'm just getting into non-gut strings and I've really been liking the kevlar main/multifilament hybrid i strung into my flexpoint radical tour

Only poly I've invested serious playtime into is Confidential, which I like a lot too, but I don't find it to be as "honest" as kevlar

got a few polys queued up: ghost wire, firestorm, BBO, isospeed grey fire, so I'm curious to see if poly is the real deal or if I'm just a kevlar guy
 
after many lengthy sessions with Kev mains/Tier 1 GW crosses (56/53 iirc), I did not like the GW at all. It seemed dead and got crap spin. Perhaps it doesn’t jive/mix well with Kevlar… who knows? I’m back to Kevlar mains/Cyberflash crosses….

I was interested in some of the super soft Polyfibre copolys and actually ordered a few sets of Cobra, but they were outta stock and apparently based in Germany. Tired of experimenting and ready to stick to a set up and go from there.

There is a clear, absolutely necessary “break-in” period with Kevlar mains and Copoly crosses, though. I’m trying to find that perfect tension combo so that the break-in time is limited.

Weeks ago I had this period of about 3 or 4 sessions with Kev/Cyberflash where it has loosened up from its initial tension of about 56/53, and the t was just perfect!

Any thoughts on Kevlar mains/ copoly crosses break-in period? I’m curious as to what people think….
 

NMTennis

Rookie
Seems like most people have been using GW as a cross, but want to know people's take on it as a main? Thinking about 18g GW in the mains and 17g OGSM or other syn gut in the crosses...
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
Seems like most people have been using GW as a cross, but want to know people's take on it as a main? Thinking about 18g GW in the mains and 17g OGSM or other syn gut in the crosses...

GW 18 is as soft as OGSM 17 so I suggest to string FB of GW, you don't gain anything crossing it with a sent gut. I am using GW 19 FB in an 18x20 racquet and it is excellent.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
after many lengthy sessions with Kev mains/Tier 1 GW crosses (56/53 iirc), I did not like the GW at all. It seemed dead and got crap spin. Perhaps it doesn’t jive/mix well with Kevlar… who knows? I’m back to Kevlar mains/Cyberflash crosses….

I was interested in some of the super soft Polyfibre copolys and actually ordered a few sets of Cobra, but they were outta stock and apparently based in Germany. Tired of experimenting and ready to stick to a set up and go from there.

There is a clear, absolutely necessary “break-in” period with Kevlar mains and Copoly crosses, though. I’m trying to find that perfect tension combo so that the break-in time is limited.

Weeks ago I had this period of about 3 or 4 sessions with Kev/Cyberflash where it has loosened up from its initial tension of about 56/53, and the t was just perfect!

Any thoughts on Kevlar mains/ copoly crosses break-in period? I’m curious as to what people think….
Ashaway kevlar always has a significant tension loss/break in period for 30-45 minutes due to the braids lengthening out.
 
2nd serve ace, yeah I ask my stringer (I can’t string) to pull on the Kev for a bit to reduce some of that tension loss, so I assume he does.

Today that same string job is starting to reach that perfect range… it just takes 45 min to 1.5 hours of relative big cut hitting to get there. At least I’m aware so that for match play, I can have it there already.
 
My displeasure with GW may be, in part, due to the gauge —1.27. I much order the Topspin Cyberflash as a cross with my Kevlar mains in my Clash, but then again the Cyberflash is 1.2mm. Thinner gauge is always better for me, as long as it lasts.
 

nov

Hall of Fame
Hello,

I've been playing with Triax 1.27 mm for a while with My Gravity Tour and Pro both 18 x 20 and really like it. But Triax plays very good for first 5-10 hours and then it start notch and spin start decrease until i cut it at 20h mark. Im not a string breaker and im going to try Ghost Wire. Im thinking about 1.10mm or 1.17mm gauge. How much tension drop can i except from Ghost Wire 1.10mm or 1.17mm compared to Triax 1.27mm?
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Anyone ever try a Tour Bite/Ghost Wire hybrid? Wondering if it would be a good match. I have a set of 1.22 and 1.27 GW (never used the string) and thinking of a crossing it with 1.20 TB in the mains in an 18/20 (PT 2.0).
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Anyone ever try a Tour Bite/Ghost Wire hybrid? Wondering if it would be a good match. I have a set of 1.22 and 1.27 GW (never used the string) and thinking of a crossing it with 1.20 TB in the mains in an 18/20 (PT 2.0).
That sounds like it would be a nice set up.

I recently put confidential 16 w GW 17 in a microgel prestige MP and it played nice. Granted confidential isn't TB...

I did also just put TB16 w GW 17 in an RF97A for a friend of mine. I'll let you know what he thinks about it.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Anyone ever try a Tour Bite/Ghost Wire hybrid? Wondering if it would be a good match. I have a set of 1.22 and 1.27 GW (never used the string) and thinking of a crossing it with 1.20 TB in the mains in an 18/20 (PT 2.0).
I’ve gotten close with silver 7 tour and GW. It’s one of my go to set ups.
 
I’ve gotten close with silver 7 tour and GW. It’s one of my go to set ups.

Tried this setup with my Blade Pro 16x19. Felt very nice and added some nice feel to the Silver 7 Tour (17g). I noticed the Ghost Wire (17g) splintered and eventually snapped in the crosses before much visible notching. Probably lasted a good 10 hours though. Has this been your experience?
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Tried this setup with my Blade Pro 16x19. Felt very nice and added some nice feel to the Silver 7 Tour (17g). I noticed the Ghost Wire (17g) splintered and eventually snapped in the crosses before much visible notching. Probably lasted a good 10 hours though. Has this been your experience?
Never seen ghost wire splinter before but yea it lasts well over 10 hours for me. I’m not a string breaker though.
 
Hello folks,
In a facebook post, tier one has informed that early in the next year they are gonna release a new, round, soft, white co-poly, named ghostwire. It seems that it will be similar to multifilament strings in terms of softness. Who is excited?
P.S. Check out their x-mas offers, 30% discount on all the products...
I play with it late April-early May 2022. Nothing over the top. Just a descent round string that is comfortable, easy depth, moderate spin and satisfactory control. Good for practicing, not for tournaments.
 

Arzivu

Semi-Pro
I play with it late April-early May 2022. Nothing over the top. Just a descent round string that is comfortable, easy depth, moderate spin and satisfactory control. Good for practicing, not for tournaments.
I won't disagree with you. I have to mention though that this string has a strong number of followers on this board and there is a reason for that; It retains its tension very well (something that is quite remarkable for such a soft string) and it performs great as a cross string in a number of combinations.
 
I won't disagree with you. I have to mention though that this string has a strong number of followers on this board and there is a reason for that; It retains its tension very well (something that is quite remarkable for such a soft string) and it performs great as a cross string in a number of combinations.
The tension stability, yes, it was better than the Topspin Cyber Soft with which it looked very similar.
I have actually a hybrid set from Tier One USA called Firewire Boost (Firewire for the mains and Ghostwire for the crosses).

I understand that many people say that a string is good for hybrids, but I feel if the same string is not good enough for full-bed use, it should only be sold in hybrid sets.

Anyway, Tier One has very competitive prices and worths the try. My next Tier One playtest will most propably be the Black Knight which is its most hyped string.
They've sent me: the Black Knight, the Ghost Wire (done), the Firewire, the Firewire Boost and the Tour Status.
 

williamthurman

New User
Has anyone tried GW as cross with a main that has low tension maintenance? Wondering how would that work (thinking of hybrid with Signum Pro Firestorm here)
 

MaiTai

Rookie
I understand that many people say that a string is good for hybrids, but I feel if the same string is not good enough for full-bed use, it should only be sold in hybrid sets.

Why? So you're stuck with the mains you don't want to play?
So you're saying that if i want to put Hyper G Soft in the mains and GW in the crosses, i have to buy a Firewire Boost set to get 6m of GW? o_O
 
Why? So you're stuck with the mains you don't want to play?
So you're saying that if i want to put Hyper G Soft in the mains and GW in the crosses, i have to buy a Firewire Boost set to get 6m of GW? o_O
They could sell a 6m set if it is not supposed to perform well as full-bed.
For example, Stringlab Italia offers you the choice to either buy a string as a 6.5 meter set, 12 meter set or as a 200 meter full reel. So if I knew one of their strings is not performing well in full-bed, but great as a hybrid in the crosses, I could buy the 6.5 meter set for less money than the 12 meter set with 6.5 meters to spare.
 
They could sell a 6m set if it is not supposed to perform well as full-bed.
For example, Stringlab Italia offers you the choice to either buy a string as a 6.5 meter set, 12 meter set or as a 200 meter full reel. So if I knew one of their strings is not performing well in full-bed, but great as a hybrid in the crosses, I could buy the 6.5 meter set for less money than the 12 meter set with 6.5 meters to spare.

Based on our internal data we would not go so far to say nobody is playing a full set of Ghost Wire. There are plenty of players out there. It just depends what type of string characteristics a player is looking for.

If you are a 35 year old 4.0 player who is looking for extra ball bite, a full set of GW would not be our recommendation.
If you are 50 year or 4.5 player who is looking for an arm friendly poly setup with good tension stability but his style of play does not require significant access to spin, a full set of GW could be a great option.
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
They could sell a 6m set if it is not supposed to perform well as full-bed.
For example, Stringlab Italia offers you the choice to either buy a string as a 6.5 meter set, 12 meter set or as a 200 meter full reel. So if I knew one of their strings is not performing well in full-bed, but great as a hybrid in the crosses, I could buy the 6.5 meter set for less money than the 12 meter set with 6.5 meters to spare.
Full bed Ghost Wire

 
Based on our internal data we would not go so far to say nobody is playing a full set of Ghost Wire. There are plenty of players out there. It just depends what type of string characteristics a player is looking for.

If you are a 35 year old 4.0 player who is looking for extra ball bite, a full set of GW would not be our recommendation.
If you are 50 year or 4.5 player who is looking for an arm friendly poly setup with good tension stability but his style of play does not require significant access to spin, a full set of GW could be a great option.
I totally agree with you. My intention was by all menas, NOT TO DISQUALIFY the Ghost Wire as a good string in full-bed, by saying it's only good for a hybrid like many people say.
I personally played with it in full-bed and really enjoyed it! I've posted my review on my Instagram Account. It also had better durability than the Topspin Cyber Soft (supposed to be a similar oriented string).
By the way, in the package of strings you have sent me, I say that there's one hybrid set, the "Firewire Boost" that has a 6 meter set of the Ghost Wire for the crosses.
 

PFG1

Rookie
I've got a full bed of Ghost Wire in my Blade v8 18x20. Strung at 46. Some thoughts...

1) Blind folded, I would guess I'm hitting with a Poly-Multi hybrid. Thats how it feels.
2) Plays like a poly. Meaning, for me at least, I can swing fast, swing out, and the string allows it.
3) Only on hit number 4, day number 5 with the string, but tension maintenance is good and string bed feel is consistent. No drop off. TBD
4) Is it less spinny off the ground? Maybe. But not vastly diff than a shaped poly. I think string shape gets too much credit for spin production.
5) Might try it in a hybrid with a less powerful poly. Thinking Solinco Confidential.

I don't really have any arm issues, but the string is nice. And I've got another set on order.

If it matters...Mens 18+ 4.5 player.
 
I've got a full bed of Ghost Wire in my Blade v8 18x20. Strung at 46. Some thoughts...

1) Blind folded, I would guess I'm hitting with a Poly-Multi hybrid. Thats how it feels.
2) Plays like a poly. Meaning, for me at least, I can swing fast, swing out, and the string allows it.
3) Only on hit number 4, day number 5 with the string, but tension maintenance is good and string bed feel is consistent. No drop off. TBD
4) Is it less spinny off the ground? Maybe. But not vastly diff than a shaped poly. I think string shape gets too much credit for spin production.
5) Might try it in a hybrid with a less powerful poly. Thinking Solinco Confidential.

I don't really have any arm issues, but the string is nice. And I've got another set on order.

If it matters...Mens 18+ 4.5 player.
Forgot to say, that the Tier One Ghost Wire felt great on my backhand slices and approach slices. Very predictable results using underspin, which is not usually my game.
 

nov

Hall of Fame
I've got a full bed of Ghost Wire in my Blade v8 18x20. Strung at 46. Some thoughts...

1) Blind folded, I would guess I'm hitting with a Poly-Multi hybrid. Thats how it feels.
2) Plays like a poly. Meaning, for me at least, I can swing fast, swing out, and the string allows it.
3) Only on hit number 4, day number 5 with the string, but tension maintenance is good and string bed feel is consistent. No drop off. TBD
4) Is it less spinny off the ground? Maybe. But not vastly diff than a shaped poly. I think string shape gets too much credit for spin production.
5) Might try it in a hybrid with a less powerful poly. Thinking Solinco Confidential.

I don't really have any arm issues, but the string is nice. And I've got another set on order.

If it matters...Mens 18+ 4.5 player.
After 4 hits its still alive?I like full bed GhostWire too, but it goes dead so fast.
 

PFG1

Rookie
After 4 hits its still alive?I like full bed GhostWire too, but it goes dead so fast.

I cut it. I did find it to be alive, but losing tension.

Still testing it out as a cross in a poly poly hybrid. Currently in with Confidential. Notched very quickly. But hasn’t broken. Yet. Playing a big hitter this AM and will report back on T1GW as a hybrid in a poly poly.
 

yats22

New User
I am a 4.0 man, early 40s, and currently use a soft 16g nylon string (Ashaway Liberty) both because of past arm issues and because I generally like the feel of it. I break these strings every 7-10 hours of play (I don't track closely, but basically every 4-5 times out). I do not mind that level of durability because I string myself. However, I am wondering if I am leaving something on the table by not trying out a soft poly like Ghost Wire, either as full bed or in the mains. I see that by it's own rating system Tier One scores GW fairly low for spin potential. Am I going to gain much in terms of playability (control, perhaps?) by trying this out? I'm a little scared because of my past arm issues, so I don't want to try it if there is no real benefit other than durability.

If it's worth a try, should I try 17g or stick with 16g (or go even thinner)? And would it be worth hybriding with GW in the mains and my nylon in the crosses (and if hybriding, would that affect the gauge I should try)? Particularly curious to hear what @TierOneSportsOfficial might have to say about this but all input appreciated!
 
I am a 4.0 man, early 40s, and currently use a soft 16g nylon string (Ashaway Liberty) both because of past arm issues and because I generally like the feel of it. I break these strings every 7-10 hours of play (I don't track closely, but basically every 4-5 times out). I do not mind that level of durability because I string myself. However, I am wondering if I am leaving something on the table by not trying out a soft poly like Ghost Wire, either as full bed or in the mains. I see that by it's own rating system Tier One scores GW fairly low for spin potential. Am I going to gain much in terms of playability (control, perhaps?) by trying this out? I'm a little scared because of my past arm issues, so I don't want to try it if there is no real benefit other than durability.

If it's worth a try, should I try 17g or stick with 16g (or go even thinner)? And would it be worth hybriding with GW in the mains and my nylon in the crosses (and if hybriding, would that affect the gauge I should try)? Particularly curious to hear what @TierOneSportsOfficial might have to say about this but all input appreciated!
I've played the Ghost Wire 1.22/17 in full-bed at 22kg on my Diadem Nova FS 100 (300gr, 16*19). As far as the spin potential is concerned, in comparizon with other shaped strings I've played with, yes, you won't get extra assistance, it will be all about your technique.
The comfort level for a poly, I don't think it can get much better than the Ghost Wire. Of course, you have to consider what tension to use and what is the stiffness of your racket.
The sweet-spot felt huge. To get more control you'll have to sacrifice some of the power, meaning pumping up the tension a bit.
Don't be afraid to have it strung at 23 or 24 kgs. The Ghost Wire is really a very good choice for comfort and easy depth.
For the duarabilty, I concur with other reviews I've read here. It is durable. More durable than the (similar) Topspin Cyber Soft.
The price tag is great, also! Give it a try full-bed.
 

yats22

New User
Thanks, @konstantinos kalfountzos. I use a Head Graphene 360 Radical Pro (the 2019 version I think...the Murray paintjob) strung at 24kg (53 lbs.). Racquet is on the stiffer side. I tried switching to a Gravity S but it seemed to hurt worse than the Radical.

Good to know this as comfy as it gets for polys...any sense how that would compare to a soft nylon? Really don't want pain coming back....would rather stick to nylon and feel good than play in pain!

Edit: the Radical is 16x19, 98 sq in.
 
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Thanks, @konstantinos kalfountzos. I use a Head Graphene 360 Radical Pro (the 2019 version I think...the Murray paintjob) strung at 24kg (53 lbs.). Racquet is on the stiffer side. I tried switching to a Gravity S but it seemed to hurt worse than the Radical.

Good to know this as comfy as it gets for polys...any sense how that would compare to a soft nylon? Really don't want pain coming back....would rather stick to nylon and feel good than play in pain!
The only more comfortable string than the Ghost Wire I've played with is the twisted YTex Quadro Twist, but it plays waaay more diffenent.
Tier One has a hybrid set called "Firewire Boost", check that out, too. It consists of half a set of the Ghost Wire for the crosses (comfort) and Firewire for the mains (control + spin). I have it, but haven't played with it yet. I'll play with their most hyped string, the Black Knight.
I'd say, either play it safe with the Ghost Wire full-bed or try the Firewire Boost.
* In my opinion, it's 80% the player's technique and style and 20% the string/racket combo.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
Based on our internal data we would not go so far to say nobody is playing a full set of Ghost Wire. ..... but his style of play does not require significant access to spin, ......a full set of GW could be a great option.
Yes, I was playing a full set and maybe this above is why I didn't prefer it . I was pretty spoiled by Big Ace Micro and now can't find it.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
After 4 hits its still alive?I like full bed GhostWire too, but it goes dead so fast.
I thought this too... but again, I'm not trashing the string.... just wasn't for me, at the tension I was using anyway.
 

mctennis

Legend
The only more comfortable string than the Ghost Wire I've played with is the twisted YTex Quadro Twist, but it plays waaay more diffenent.
Tier One has a hybrid set called "Firewire Boost", check that out, too. It consists of half a set of the Ghost Wire for the crosses (comfort) and Firewire for the mains (control + spin). I have it, but haven't played with it yet. I'll play with their most hyped string, the Black Knight.
I'd say, either play it safe with the Ghost Wire full-bed or try the Firewire Boost.
* In my opinion, it's 80% the player's technique and style and 20% the string/racket combo.
Quadro Twist plays excellent for me. I have been using it for a few years now and it my "go to" cross string. Always a nice playing and feeling string for me.
 
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EggSalad

Hall of Fame
I am a 4.0 man, early 40s, and currently use a soft 16g nylon string (Ashaway Liberty) both because of past arm issues and because I generally like the feel of it. I break these strings every 7-10 hours of play (I don't track closely, but basically every 4-5 times out). I do not mind that level of durability because I string myself. However, I am wondering if I am leaving something on the table by not trying out a soft poly like Ghost Wire, either as full bed or in the mains. I see that by it's own rating system Tier One scores GW fairly low for spin potential. Am I going to gain much in terms of playability (control, perhaps?) by trying this out? I'm a little scared because of my past arm issues, so I don't want to try it if there is no real benefit other than durability.

If it's worth a try, should I try 17g or stick with 16g (or go even thinner)? And would it be worth hybriding with GW in the mains and my nylon in the crosses (and if hybriding, would that affect the gauge I should try)? Particularly curious to hear what @TierOneSportsOfficial might have to say about this but all input appreciated!

Since you are used to Ashaway Liberty, I’d keep that in the mains and try 16g Ghostwire in the crosses. Since you string yourself. I’d try the Ghostwire crosses at your normal cross tension. If it feels too stiff, you can always cut it out and drop the tension.
 
Buy directly from their website. They have excellent service and they are also going to release rackets! They had had a giveaway a few days ago, but no further details out yet.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
Buy directly from their website. They have excellent service and they are also going to release rackets! They had had a giveaway a few days ago, but no further details out yet.

I'll second the excellent service part and free shipping on orders over $29 is awesome. I've had orders ship the same day I placed it. I would venture to guess that Tier One would have to raise prices probably $5 a set in order to wholesale.
 

MaiTai

Rookie
Tier One's Support is Top Tier. Their Contact in Austria who takes care of European orders is super nice and eager to help if you have Questions or Problems.
Have had Mail Contact with him on some occasions and i'm very very happy with their support.
Most important thing is that i like their strings and their prices so i keep using T1 products. Can be so easy to satisfy a customer xD
 
I've got a full bed of Ghost Wire in my Blade v8 18x20. Strung at 46. Some thoughts...

1) Blind folded, I would guess I'm hitting with a Poly-Multi hybrid. Thats how it feels.
2) Plays like a poly. Meaning, for me at least, I can swing fast, swing out, and the string allows it.
3) Only on hit number 4, day number 5 with the string, but tension maintenance is good and string bed feel is consistent. No drop off. TBD
4) Is it less spinny off the ground? Maybe. But not vastly diff than a shaped poly. I think string shape gets too much credit for spin production.
5) Might try it in a hybrid with a less powerful poly. Thinking Solinco Confidential.

I don't really have any arm issues, but the string is nice. And I've got another set on order.

If it matters...Mens 18+ 4.5 player.
You might want to try to hybrid GW with Black Knight. This could offer the additional control that you are looking for.
 

wollumeg

New User
Firewire 1.25mm / Ghostwire 1.22mm 55M/53X in a Pure Aero+ or Hyper G Soft 1.25mm / Ghostwire 1.22mm 55M/53X in a Pure Aero+

I string a 31-year-old 5.0C client's Volkl C10 Pro frames with 1.25mm Hyper G / 1.22mm Ghostwire at 46M/44X. He like Black Knight mains / Ghostwire crosses, but he likes Hyper G / Ghostwire better. I've been stringing HG / GW since last July to soften up Hyper G. Now that Hyper G Soft has been released to the public, HGS/Ghostwire and Firewire/Ghostwire have been indistinguishable in my Pure Aero + frames. I can hit with either frame and change nothing in my swing or game.
Do you feel hybriding HGS and Ghostwire performs better than full bed of each alone? I have one set of each and I am trying to decide if hybriding or going full bed with each is best route. First time using either.
 
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