Time for Nadal to cut HC events down

[Towser83]

Nadal has had better results than Federer in 4 Grand Slams in a row (RG 2018, WB 2018, USO 2018, AO 2019). Federer will play in 2020 so it makes no sense for Nadal to retire before Federer when has better Slams results.

Nadal will not retire this year, even if he loses at RG. You wanna bet?

If Nadal does not win RG 2019 and keeps playing in 2020, I stay in the forum and you abandone TTW forever.

If Nadal does not win RG 2019 and retires in 2019, I abandone TTW forever and you stay.

Just because he has better slam results than Federer doesn't mean anything, it depends what Nadal is happy with. Fed might be happy to reach 4th rounds at slams, but if Nadal fails to win any slams for a couple of years and is in discomfort competing then maybe he calls it a day

All these bets to leave TTW are childish

 

[DSH]

Why drag Federer into this? Just because I have a Federer pic in my profile?

I didn't say he will retire. I said if he doesn't win RG, it's more difficult to win next year. Don't take it for granted that RG belongs to Rafa.

Honestly, I think Rafa will win maximum one more RG.

12 would be the perfect ending for Nadal.
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[Tennis_Hands]

Nadal still collects appearance fee from every tournament where he participates/promises to participate.

The significance of such players to sell tickets/draw sponsors is such that it seems that even the promise to participate with the associated advertisements brings in enough revenue for the TDs to beg the players to try to come down at the tournament site and do promo activity, even if the player is at the last minute hindered to participate by injury or such.

That is especially true for the smaller tournaments, but the bigger tournaments up to a M1000 level are not spared as we well know from the problems between Federer and the M1000 in Paris.

The main thing here is not the mystery of Nadal's participations, rather than the already obvious tactic that he doesn't intend to put his best effort, if t doesn't 100% suit him. It is obvious that that many WO/DNF/withdrawals specifically on HC are not a coincidence. He is milking the tournaments for cash and moves on to the next payment.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Source?

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's.

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal

So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

 

[Pheasant]

Nadal should play:
2 hard court slam events, WTF, Wimbledon, and 3-4 clay events. That's 7-8 total tournaments for Rafa for the year. This is the type of workload that could help him prevent injuries.

 

[Sport]

Just because he has better slam results than Federer doesn't mean anything, it depends what Nadal is happy with. Fed might be happy to reach 4th rounds at slams, but if Nadal fails to win any slams for a couple of years and is in discomfort competing then maybe he calls it a day

All these bets to leave TTW are childish

Bets are not childish but an indication of how sure a person is of his claims. He who bets is sure of his claims, he who withdraws from betting is not sure of his claims.

Illustrative example: I am completely sure that the sun will rise tomorrow. You wanna bet? If the sun rises tomorrow, then you have to leave TTW forever. If the sun does not rises tomorrow, then I leave the forum forever.

This was an illustrative example (not a literal bet). What I mean is that the person who makes a bet is so sure of his claim as any other person is that the sun will rise tomorrow.

 

[Sport]

Since the USO, 2017, Nadal hasn't been able to really compete successfully on HC's.

Paris 2017 - withdrawal before QF's
YEC 2017 - withdrawal after 1 round robin match
AO 2018 - retirement in QF's
Acapulco 2018 - withdrawal
Indian Wells 2018 - withdrawal
Miami 2018 - withdrawal
Canada 2018 - plays
Cincinnati 2018 - withdrawal
US Open 2018 - retirement in SF
Shanghai 2018 - withdrawal
Paris 2018 - withdrawal
WTF 2018 - withdrawal
Brisbane 2019 - withdrawal
AO 2019 - Makes the final
Acapulco 2019 - Loses to Nick
Indian Wells 2019 - withdrawal before SF
Miami 2019 - withdrawal

So Rafa has been able to complete a HC tournament in three tournaments out of 17 (3/17).

Federer has been even less succesful than Nadal on hard courts in the last months.

Nadal has had better results than Federer in the last 2 Grand Slams on hard courts:

USO 2018:
Nadal SF
Federer QF

AO 2019
Nadal F
Federer 4 R

P. S.: By the way, Nadal not only "played" the 2018 Toronto Masters 1000. He WON the title. So I do not get why did you put that Nadal "played" the Toronto Masters 1000, rather than putting that he won.

 

[Towser83]

Bets are not childish but an indication of how sure a person is of his claims. He who bets is sure of his claims, he who withdraws from betting is not sure of his claims.

Illustrative example: I am completely sure that the sun will rise tomorrow. You wanna bet? If the sun rises tomorrow, then you have to leave TTW forever. If the sun does not rises tomorrow, then I leave the forum forever.

This was an illustrative example (not a literal bet). What I mean is that the person who makes a bet is so sure of his claim as any other person is that the sun will rise tomorrow.

Bets are not childish but this whole leaving TTW thing is. I saw someone else post a thread about this calling people out on it, I think you were one, no one responded.

Debate is what makes TTW, if someone is a fair poster and has interesting debate, why try and set up a scenario where they leave? If someone is a troll you can always ignore them. This leaving TTW penalty is petty

 

[Djokovic2011]

Bets are not childish but an indication of how sure a person is of his claims. He who bets is sure of his claims, he who withdraws from betting is not sure of his claims.

Illustrative example: I am completely sure that the sun will rise tomorrow. You wanna bet? If the sun rises tomorrow, then you have to leave TTW forever. If the sun does not rises tomorrow, then I leave the forum forever.

This was an illustrative example (not a literal bet). What I mean is that the person who makes a bet is so sure of his claim as any other person is that the sun will rise tomorrow.

Given how appalling the weather's been recently where I live I'd give anything to see the sun rise tomorrow!