Sports science definitely wasn't as good in those days - duh
- so it's incredible that Rosewall was able to remain competitive against most of the top players (only really Connors was the exception) until he was nearly 40.
Nat, certainly it would be interesting to do a really thorough analysis of age in tennis, but I do know that the peak age for winning majors was right around age 24, and the beginning of age 24. In other words, if you make a chart, there is a pretty clear bell curve. I'd love to have data for all winners of all events over the decades.
It does seem very clear that the age for winning went up during the 50s and 60s. I can't prove that, but I believe if we could graph all the finals we'd see it. You know how long Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver went on winning.
This seemed to give a clear advantage to older players at the beginning of the OE. With Laver winning everything in 69 you had a man getting the GS at 30-31. Even today that would raise eyebrows a bit. What Rosewall did is still astonishing in 2018. Then you see Rosewall winning RG in 68, at around 33.5. We thought it amazing that Nadal did it again when turning 32.
Also, in those days scheduling was often horrible. Today matches are spaced in three majors because of roofs. Back then any major could be totally screwed up by weather. I remember 2014 at the USO being a mess, and former players also played doubles. I don't know how scheduling at RG was in 68. It is still screwed up there now. Gonzalez knocked out Emerson in 5 sets. He was 40. He took out the guy who practically ruled amateur tennis for years, a guy born 8 years later then got creamed by Laver the next match. But how tired was he? How much rest did he get? The man drank soda and smoked cigarettes. No ice bath. No team. I'm sure he did not get a long rub down.
The questions should be the same: why were such "old men" winning everything? My answer is that the former pros were so much better than the younger amateurs that for awhile it was almost total dominance by the older guys, and for this reason I think Dan's whole thing about the weakness of the pro tour in the 60s is wrong. The proof is in the results. These old guys continued to beat almost everyone for a long time, and it did not totally change until Connors.
We should now be asking ourselves the same question: Why are older players so totally dominating tennis?
I don't have an answer, and most of all I don't know if it will flip again in the future. But look at the ages of all the guys still in the tournament. I don't think it's fair to compare today's older players with those of the past. Training, diet and medicine are changing things so that age and experience has much more weight in today's game.
This to me makes Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver much more amazing, because these older players had none of the advantages of today's 30-something players.
I will say that due to the racquets etc...that there was much less chance of an opponent "taking the racquet out of your hands" with big serving and hitting in those days, Rosewall's guile and experience was less likely to be overpowered.
Rackets and strings have changed everything. It's not the same game. My knowledge of the game re actually playing is stuck in time because I stopped during the wood/gut years. My reasons for quitting are personal, but my visceral connection with tennis goes back to those years. I know what those old rackets could do. I can tell you what it was like to pick up a T-2000 and get a lot of extra power but lose control because I did it and had to reject that racket because everything for me was uncontrollable.
I only know what modern rackets and strings do by watching the game. I have no direct experience. But I do know that I see things that in my day were impossible. If you tried to hit a tweener with one of those old wooden rackets, most likely you would lose a couple testicles and the shot wouldn't work. You could not splay a foot to the side and muscle a 2HBH back with a totally open stance, which is why you never see that shot from Borg. The technique Fed uses for his "chop" backhands most likely would not work with wood because you would not get enough pace that way, which is why you see a full swing from Rosewall on those shots.
That's all we can say. Everything is different, and the changes have been pretty gradual because poly is only the last big change. If you go back to the 90s you see from stats that players in general make less points on 2nd serve. The DF-ed more often. Krosero gave me some data awhile back about serving a couple more decades back, and you could see that players then could serve almost as fast, but I'm sure they did serve as fast on average, and they DFed way more often. The obvious reason is that without the insane spin players can get today the whole game was different.
We know that top players average about the same % of games, total. Then as now a great year was winning around 60% of games, so around 55% of points. That has not changed in the OE. If it was different before that in the pros, it would have to do with difference in the way the competition was set up - more collisions between top players. But if serving has come up in %, return has to go down in %, and I believe that is exactly what has happened. It is highly likely that players from decades ago broke more often and were broken more often. This would be directly linked to more DFs per game and lower % of 2nd serve points. Those two factors alone would give a much greater advantage to returners.
But the relative lack of power with wood - without being set up and more or less stepping into the ball - left returners at a big disadvantage re power. Have you noticed how many returns look weak in the days when guys rushed the net every point? That's also because of the rackets.
In general though I think Rosewall does get a lot of credit for his late career achievements, that tends to be what even his detractors credit him with - longevity. He gets far less credit for his achievements in his best years.
For me it's hard to put it all together watching old footage. I can't get a feel for his game the way we do with modern players because I want to return to his complete matches and watch every stroke, but for the most part the videos we have today are so horrible inadequate. We can surmise that his game kept getting better and better and better as he passed age 30, but is that logical? Isn't it more logical that he lost quite a bit of speed, just as Fed has, and that it would be even more of a problem because of how hard it was to recover without all the perks modern players have?
I'm asking these questions because I flat out do not know. The only thing I know is that ATGs have a nasty habit of making it miserable for players much younger at an age when they really should not longer be able to maintain dominance, and it's always against all odds.
This for me is especially obvious for Gonzalez, Rosewall, Agassi and Federer. I'm not so sure about guys like Tilden because they did not continue to play in a unified field where they could be directly compared to many other younger players.