JustTryingToImprove
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I posted a video of my serve before, I’ve worked on keeping my throwing arm up instead of dropping it so quickly to help get a higher contact point. I was hitting a mix of slice and flat serves.
Sorry, can you elaborate on my foot and turning more to the left? Yeah I sometimes start from a continental and slide accidentally into something between continental and eastern.Move back foot to the right. Grip is wrong, turn more to left.
Yeah, it’s hot where I was and I was hitting against the wall for a while, so I got a bit lazy with my lower body, I didn’t really drive up on to the ballSomething is wrong with your lower body. I don't really know what though.
I was taught of throwing my racket at the ball or up into it, can you further elaborate, and frog stance? Thanks againYou are arming or using shoulder which is not healthy nor efficient.
Try start slower, where it is just enough to make a full swing, and try to feel using your hips (which means simply focus on leg positions that helps stabilize yourself, I recommend frog stance) to drive instead of shoulder or arm.
While doing that, try if you can fix a contact point and toss that helps to get the ball over the net, try to aim to get into the court, don't worry about service line for now (it will be ok since once you get the feel, it is easy to add topspin to pull the ball down so it will land into the service line).
Don't rush this kinda stuff, it is best if you start on the right track instead of rushing into result using the wrong kinetic chain.
I’ve noticed this many times, and is a struggle currently, I’ll keep trying, thanks!Looks like the Waiter's Tray based on the racket face pointing to the sky. The high level technique has the edges of the racket roughly in line with the ball (for an instant).
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I've posted on WT many times on this forum and also on the high level serve that includes internal shoulder rotation(ISR)
Can you point at like time frame wise? Don’t you follow through on the swing path And finish to the left?You need to finish out to the right. You're finishing to the left. You can't get much spin that way.
I think you mean the elbow bend right?Watch this:
You need to get wrist snap.
I’ll try that out whenever I hit the court. ThanksWatch this:
You need to get wrist snap.
Watch Nastase serve:
It is not as simple as higher contact point.
The above thread has some analysis of TomT's serve and some very informative pictures of TomT's technique by Toly. In a few words, TomT uses a bend in his elbow and ISR (his upper arm bone rotates in his shoulder joint) for added racket head speed. See #3-5 pictures above. You might be doing the same thing as TomT only not so clearly?? This is the fast part of the serve and takes high speed video to show it, your 30 fps video is too slow.
Toly labeled these pictures.
The high level serve is different. It uses a near straight arm and bend at the wrist (forearm to racket angle) for racket head speed.
Other joint motions are also swinging the racket forward while the ISR is rotating the arm around its long axis.
High level serve at 240 fps. Look at near straight arm during acceleration to impact.
This serve analysis of TomT's serve has more detail.
I believe that TomT's serve is similar to the OP's. It has racket face to the sky, bent elbow and achieved good pace according to TomT. It's not a Waiter's Tray according to the Hi Tech tennis checkpoint example with the near straight elbow at Big L position.
Why does this work for pace? It makes effective use of the largest muscle connected to the arm - the................
Haha, yeah my legs were kinda tired so i didnt drive up but kinda drived to the side.Toss waaaay too much to the right and ur bodyweight getting thrown left are the most obvious issues.
Like following through your racket and finishing across your body?You spiral your arm around your body during your toss
Sorry for not knowing, but what is ISR?I just looked again this time at your slow motion serves. (I usually don't look through 6 minute videos of serves and try to pick out which serves to analyze.) Your serve might have ISR but it is more a technique that I first noticed in TomT's serve. TomT was a TT poster.
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Another poster's thread with a similar serve technique.
Sorry for not knowing, but what is ISR?