TITANIC

Goosehead

Legend
Maybe it's time someone produced a sequel telling the story from the Iceberg's point of view?

After all, the iceberg could have been home to a colony of polar bears made homeless when the Titanic struck! :eek:

Leonardo di Caprio could star as Papa Polar Bear and Kate Winslet as Mama Polar Bear. Celine Dion could sing a number entitled something like, "My Berg will go on!"

They could call it something like, "Iceberg, the Untold Story!" :cool:
yes.i mean lets be fair..how come the iceberg gets so much blame ?

all it was doing was floating around minding its own business, just doing iceberg type stuff, then this big silly boat comes along and messes up. big time.

the poor iceberg didn't even win an Oscar when it dominated the film despite only appearing in it for a few minutes. utter fiasco.
 
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Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
Titanic 2 -The Iceberg Denial.The ship knowingly sails into the iceberg with Captain Ahab screaming 'death to the warming'.

At that moment, the iceberg melts away and we enter a strange and foreign land closely resembling the modern world called 'Itland'.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Titanic 2 -The Iceberg Denial.The ship knowingly sails into the iceberg with Captain Ahab screaming 'death to the warming'.

At that moment, the iceberg melts away and we enter a strange and foreign land closely resembling the modern world called 'Itland'.
Titanic III

Synopsis: Captain Edward Smith, an alt-right Brexiteer and Libertarian, crosses the Atlantic in record time not to win the Blue Riband (as riband sounds too close to ribbon, which like bunting and sleeping with curvy women are girly and therefore fake and gay), but to prove that the Earth is actually flat and that the Illuminati are preventing people from finding about the truth. His heroic efforts are repeatedly blocked by the leftist librul Knights Templar (played by Bernie Sanders) and atheist Mexican Muslims (played by Barack Obummer), who place ice cubes made of depleted uranium in attempts to sink the ship. Donald Trump and Poutine save the day by freeing the 1% of taxes, regulations, and feminists, all of which have been preventing them from building enough lifeboats needed to save themselves, because back then, maritime law stipulated that wymyn and born children are more important than the elusive white man and unborn children.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
On a serious note, this movie is a lot better than we give it credit for.

One of the greatest soundtracks ever too (and certainly the best selling all time).

RIP, James Horner. I'd take all your self-plagiarism if it would mean that we could have you back and stop having to hear Hans Zimmer's foghorns.
 

helennnnnn

Professional
Ha was obsessed with this film as were my friends. I was like 11/12 though. The Titanic set sail from my city so have always been interested in the history of it.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I was a stunt double in that movie. I had the task of hitting the propeller. Man that hurt.
Yeah right :p

Ha was obsessed with this film as were my friends. I was like 11/12 though. The Titanic set sail from my city so have always been interested in the history of it.
It's weird how many people grew up interested in the story of the Titanic. When I was a kid, I used to draw the ship and read stories about it, and watch "A Night To Remember". When the movie came out, I was stoked lol
 

Rod Laver

Professional
Personally this movie is insanely overrated. Leonardo Dicaprio had all the romance of a trout, and Kate Winslet was only marginally better. The fact that you went in knowing the ending, and the very beginning makes the fate of the lovers obvious, to me makes this movie pointless. All of the acting to me was just bland, boring, and forgettable.

However two things to come out of the movie as a positive was an absolutely beautiful song by Celine Dion (that proceeded to be played into the ground on the radio because radio is good at killing good things). I also found the set designs and the costumes to be FANTASTIC in the film. They did an amazing job of making everything look truly authentic to the subject matter.

I think the movie could have been better...if the acting was better. I just found DiCaprio so unromantic (and honestly I've never found him in any way attractive) that he just kills the whole thing for me.
Fair enough if you don't like the acting but thinking the movie is pointleas because you know what happens in the end? I guess you don't like Romeo and Juliet or movies based on historical events. Or even superhero films (omg the superhero saved the day what a surprise!). Do you ever rewatch films?
 

NonP

Hall of Fame
The movie was released on December 19th because it was a move to put it fresh in the minds of Oscar voters, as all the movies generally thought to be contenders are released at that time.

a note, it was nominated for 14 Academy awards, winning 11...and yet did not win ANY awards for acting (something rare I think that didn't happen again until one of the Lord of the Rings movies won best picture). That alone says something. DiCaprio didn't even get nominated, Winslet did and lost to Helen Hunt.
Not really, I brought it up because I find it hilarious it won so many awards because its horrible, and also to counter an earlier argument made that the movie was underrated. Underrated movies don't win 11 Academy awards.
I think you contradicted yourself there. First you try to knock the Oscars for bestowing on Titanic "so many awards," but then you seem to inadvertently talk up the very thing you're criticizing on the shaky ground that the very existence of those numerous awards is proof the movie isn't underrated (and also that the Academy at least got the acting awards right). If you wanted to bolster your argument you should've stuck to one gun or the other, not both.

Besides you make the all-too-common mistake of conflating the Oscars with the entire critical community. It's hardly unfair to say most Oscar voters are industry figureheads that do their masters' bidding come the award season, however unwittingly, as opposed to independent critics who refuse to participate in the biggest advertising campaign in show business which the Oscars admittedly are. I can tell you that the latter generally have no use for the Oscars and there was indeed tremendous backlash from the arthouse base against Titanic, the likes of which we probably haven't seen in the past 20 years (Wiki provides a decent snapshot of said backlash).

And as someone who recently saw its 3D re-release for the first time in over a decade, and who probably has seen close to 100+ films (both new and old) in theaters this year in addition to dozens more watched at home and whose tastes usually reside firmly in arthouse, I say those naysayers were wrong. In fact among all the films I've seen on the big screen so far this year the only ones I'd rank above Titanic are Earth by Alexander Dovzhenko, Moses and Aaron by the Straub-Huillet team, Dawson City: Frozen Time by Bill Morrison and maybe From Mayerling to Sarajevo by Max Ophuls (which BTW is almost as good as The Earrings of Madame de..., one of my desert-island movies). It's no coincidence that I saw all of these films at the National Gallery of Art, which speaks volumes for their arthouse cred, but I can also say this: with the exception of Dovzhenko's Earth (hard to argue against the enduring appeal of a near 90-year-old film) I'm pretty sure Titanic will outlive them all.

There are plenty of bones to pick with Cameron's best work - the uneasy marriage of fantasy and reality, the omission of crucial historical details, and yes some of the dialogue and also the acting especially by the lead stars (though I'd counter that much of the latter's awkwardness enhances the unsullen innocence on display) - but they're outweighed by its Griffithesque mixture of chivalry and grandeur. And it's really hard to overstate what a colossal (it's tempting to substitute "titanic" here) cultural phenomenon Titanic was: I'd get weekly updates in my inbox (from the now defunct CDNow) on the film's latest record-breaking haul at the box office, and I still remember, despite being far from a cinephile back in those days, lining up at night along with my brother and many others at a local Blockbuster so we could be among the first to snap up its much-awaited VHS release. You'd be hard-pressed to think of another non-genre/franchise movie in recent years that commanded such devotion from such a wide swath of the public, and if you're ready to dismiss all that as a historically egregious case of mass philistinism, even one that seems to be going strong 20 years after the fact, chances are you're overlooking lots of contradictory evidence.

There is some evidence that the Titanic's hull was already severely compromised by a coal bunker fire before it set to sea - fire and ice, indeed.
It's been ages since I read Walter Lord's A Night to Remember but I believe this is fairly recent news not covered in the book:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coal-fire-may-have-helped-sink-titanic-180961699/

Maybe I should check out the documentary before expanding my last two posts into a full-length review of Titanic.

And speaking of which....

It's weird how many people grew up interested in the story of the Titanic. When I was a kid, I used to draw the ship and read stories about it, and watch "A Night To Remember". When the movie came out, I was stoked lol
Haven't seen the 1958 movie (another one to add to my to-watch list), but if you haven't already you may want to read the Walter Lord book it's based on, generally considered THE authoritative account of the disaster.

Fair enough if you don't like the acting but thinking the movie is pointleas because you know what happens in the end? I guess you don't like Romeo and Juliet or movies based on historical events. Or even superhero films (omg the superhero saved the day what a surprise!). Do you ever rewatch films?
Yeah, that's why it's nonsensical to take the so-called spoilers all that seriously. And there's something particularly puerile about the "beware spoilers" phenomenon that seems to have taken over the Internet of late. (Even a tennis forum like this now has an added Spoiler option! As if having an entire subsection devoted to the latest match results wasn't enough.) Are we as grown-ups supposed to consume all these works of art as some sort of a puzzle to solve first and foremost rather than as vehicles with which to see the world differently? Is it really more important to be clever than to be wise in the grand scheme of things - that is to say, are we supposed to structure our lives more and more like a business which seems to be the case these days? The implications of this pernicious development are more far-reaching than I'm afraid most people realize.
 

helennnnnn

Professional
It's weird how many people grew up interested in the story of the Titanic. When I was a kid, I used to draw the ship and read stories about it, and watch "A Night To Remember". When the movie came out, I was stoked lol
1503 people died on the Titanic, and 549 were from my city so it's quite an important part of history around here.

This is the memorial we have for the Musicians who died on the ship (replica, as the original was destroyed by bombing in WWII)




And the memorial for the Titanic engineers



 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
1503 people died on the Titanic, and 549 were from my city so it's quite an important part of history around here.

This is the memorial we have for the Musicians who died on the ship (replica, as the original was destroyed by bombing in WWII)




And the memorial for the Titanic engineers



This is badass o_O
So good to see so many people here appreciate the story/legacy and the movie.
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
I actually quite liked this film. I wasn't too bothered by the intertwined love story, however what I really liked was the ambience it has, the awesome action and sheer terror of disaster, and the haunting soundtrack all meshed so well to me. I thought the characters were solid, and my favorite was Mr. Andrews.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I actually quite liked this film. I wasn't too bothered by the intertwined love story, however what I really liked was the ambience it has, the awesome action and sheer terror of disaster, and the haunting soundtrack all meshed so well to me. I thought the characters were solid, and my favorite was Mr. Andrews.
Meeeee too. He slayed that role. Captain Smith and Cal were great too.
 
Saw this 20 years ago today!

Remember there's no one you can save that can't be saved.

Jack saved rose in every way a person can be saved.

And that's why we're going to win this not by fighting what we hate but by saving what we love
 
Titanic part II is from the point of view of Billy Zane's character(Cal Hockley). A hard working man is cheated on by his fiance, who we find out is only after his money and is lying about who she truly is. After rightfully seeking revenge on a dirty street dwelling con man(Dawson), Cal Hockley saves a baby on a sinking ship.
 
Titanic part II is from the point of view of Billy Zane's character(Cal Hockley). A hard working man is cheated on by his fiance, who we find out is only after his money and is lying about who she truly is. After rightfully seeking revenge on a dirty street dwelling con man(Dawson), Cal Hockley saves a baby on a sinking ship.
I heard he married and inherited his millions, but the crash of 29 hit him hard, and he put a gun in his mouth, or so i read.
 

Comb Over Champion

Hall of Fame
Saw this 20 years ago today!

Remember there's no one you can save that can't be saved.

Jack saved rose in every way a person can be saved.

And that's why we're going to win this not by fighting what we hate but by saving what we love
Yes, there is. Sometimes you have to cut yourself lose before you get dragged down under. Don't listen to Hollywood, it's all crap.
 

Comb Over Champion

Hall of Fame
Dude don't bah humbug my all you need is love lyrics.

Unplug from the internet and celebrate Christmas with some gin and tonicas with Seattle supersonicas 1997 TITANIC style
I don't get you at all. You start a thread asking for boycotting of Last Jedi, then in another thread you rate the movie as 4/5 (or was it 4.5/5). Do you even know what you post half of the time, or do you just plug along, spewing whatever cliches and politically correct drivel come to your mind at the moment? :D
 
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Bender

G.O.A.T.
Personally this movie is insanely overrated. Leonardo Dicaprio had all the romance of a trout, and Kate Winslet was only marginally better. The fact that you went in knowing the ending, and the very beginning makes the fate of the lovers obvious, to me makes this movie pointless. All of the acting to me was just bland, boring, and forgettable.

However two things to come out of the movie as a positive was an absolutely beautiful song by Celine Dion (that proceeded to be played into the ground on the radio because radio is good at killing good things). I also found the set designs and the costumes to be FANTASTIC in the film. They did an amazing job of making everything look truly authentic to the subject matter.

I think the movie could have been better...if the acting was better. I just found DiCaprio so unromantic (and honestly I've never found him in any way attractive) that he just kills the whole thing for me.
Honestly the 1997 film is simultaneously under and overrated. Underrated by those who hate everything about the film and overrated by those who insist it can do no wrong. I get that the same is applicable to every movie, but with Titanic, it's a bit different because it was one of those films that women loved, and men loved but pretended to hate, then in hindsight everyone ripped on, then in second hindsight think it's not so bad.

But if there's anything that most people can agree on, it's James Horner's incredible score for the film. Rarely does an OST capture the attention of the general public; usually they are appreciated in the cinema then forgotten immediately at the end of the show. There are a few exceptions of course, like the John Williams classics (eg Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones), Hans Zimmer classics (Lion King, Gladiator, the criminally overrated dumpster fire that was Pirates of the Caribbean and Inception), and a few titles here and there by industry veterans like of Danny Elfman, Alan Silvestri, etc, but even those do not match the album sales that Horner's work on Titanic pushed in the years following that film. It's unfortunate that people have since forgotten that the rest of the soundtrack is miles better than the Celine Dion song, but it's all anyone remembers now.
I was a stunt double in that movie. I had the task of hitting the propeller. Man that hurt.
You should have given the stunt coordinator a stern talking to.
Ha was obsessed with this film as were my friends. I was like 11/12 though. The Titanic set sail from my city so have always been interested in the history of it.
Same here! Except the part about that ship setting sail from my city of course. I grew up in an apartment facing the harbour, so I saw ships sail in and out of the harbour all the time, so I naturally gained an interest in ships. I am / was an avid drawer too (I was pretty good at it too), and the Titanic was the first vessel I learned how to draw from memory...good times!
Yeah right :p



It's weird how many people grew up interested in the story of the Titanic. When I was a kid, I used to draw the ship and read stories about it, and watch "A Night To Remember". When the movie came out, I was stoked lol
That reminds me, I still need to watch that film. That, and Raise the Titanic, for the lulz. The idea of Obi Wan Kenobi telling the iceberg that the Titanic is "not the ship you're looking for" cracks me up...not that it happened in the film, but still...
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
The Titanic is class privilege in a hull-shell.

It's always interesting when people miss the obvious.

But third class passengers do, indeed, all look clean and seem like jolly good fun.

And then they drown with their faces pushed up against gated doors.

Very romantic in an odd sort of way.

SPOILER AlERT (ENDING): It's almost as if they are sacrificing themselves.
 
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