To all Sinner fans

Let’s not be sad and depressed , Carlos played match of the life and he deserved to win a slam on HC after three years. Sinner has won 2 slams this year and it has been a great year for him by any means. Imo Carlos needed this slam more than Sinner did after Sinner dented Carlos’s turf at Wimbledon , this win was great for the tennis , it shifted the balance. @dking68 if you’re reading this then lemme know if you’re okay, i texted you but you didn’t reply back to me, cheers man it’s just a sport
 
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Yes, I agree. All four of you should relax and not be sad and depressed. :X3:

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Let’s not be sad and depressed , Carlos played match of the life and he deserved to win a slam on HC after three years. Sinner has won 2 slams this year and it has been a great year for him by any means. Imo Carlos needed this slam more than Sinner did after Sinner dented Carlos’s turf at Wimbledon , this win was great for the tennis , it shifted the balance. @dking68 if you’re reading this then lemme know if you’re okay, i texted you but you didn’t reply back to me, cheers man it’s just a sport

Not really, considering that Alcaraz is two years younger (so 8 slam participations basically) and that HC is supposed to be Sinner's turf.

At this point I would honestly say Sinner needs coaching change pronto, either Becker or Ivanisevic IMO.
 
Nobody should be sad. Jannik gave his best performance he could given his condition. He was content with the loss.
He couldn't serve his normal speed (mid 120s) and this ab injury definitely affected his first serve percentage. McEnroe said it's Jannik's worst first serve percentage in all of their h2hs.
Sure Carlos played great, but you have to think that Sinner would not have been so easily broken.

I like both players but any fan who watches these two knows Sinner had a serving issue since that injury timeout from the FAA match. Pretty obvious.
I'd say the same if Carlos were injured and served under 120 for the majority of the match.

This was not one of their classic matches and neither was Wimbledon but at least they were 100%. I think these two will be injured often because of their physical style.
 
Not really he wasn’t convincing and should have lost at RG , then he most at Wimbledon
This ain't no 2019 Wimbledon where clearly Fed made mistakes and lost, Sinner got outplayed in that FO final, who cares that he got close, Alcaraz saved everything like a madman.

If you want to play that game I could also say that if Alcaraz didn't overplay he should've won Wimbledon as well making the h2h 8-0 against Sinner in the last 2 years which would be a Federer-Youzhny kind of domination across all tournaments/surfaces.

Sinner can't make any excuses, he's 0-4 on his beloved HC against Alcaraz, you just simply can't defend that. Even at his absolute best like in 2024 Beijing Alcaraz redlined that final set tie-break to win. You can excuse one loss or two due to many factors, but 0-4 is telling.
 
Personally? I felt despite all that spectacular show, I felt like had Sinner shown any signs of a lockdown mode, just play his usual game and focus on himself, he would have either won or would have ran Alcaraz way too close.
 
At 24 Years Novak had 3 Slams and an ATP Finals Win, Sinner has 4 Slams and an ATP Finals Win. Sinner still has lot of time to figure out to improve his game and reach back to the top.
 
You do know, no one out performed him in the slams this year.

He basically had a Federer 2009 like slam season, won two and reach the final of the other two. That is freaking epic.
More similiarity. Fed was dominating USO 09 and Sinner RG 25. A bit loose and the opponent played lights out to deny.
They both had a heartbreaking loss too. Fed at AO 09 and SInner at last slam USO 09
 
It's been a great year. I can tell I'm a bit sad and salty about things because I'm not wanting to watch much tennis for the rest of the season now that US Open has shut down.

Gotta say, Carlitos deserved this win. I was pretty fearful for Sinner in the final based on the level Alcaraz showed in the SF against Oldovic. Knew Sinner was going to face Mt Everest in the final.

Overall a great year at the majors for both players, but looking at things through a SinCaraz lens and from a Sinner fan perspective my feeling is that so soon after the Wimbledon win, Alcaraz has passed the gauntlet straight back to Sinner and it is up to Jannik to respond.
 
Players who reached Finals of 4 Majors in a Year (Open Era)
1. Rod Laver - 1969
2. Roger Federer - 2006, 2007, 2009
3. Novak Djokovic - 2015, 2021, 2023
4. Jannik Sinner - 2025
 
More similiarity. Fed was dominating USO 09 and Sinner RG 25. A bit loose and the opponent played lights out to deny.
They both had a heartbreaking loss too. Fed at AO 09 and SInner at last slam USO 09

Yes. This is very true.
 
Nobody should be sad. Jannik gave his best performance he could given his condition. He was content with the loss.
He couldn't serve his normal speed (mid 120s) and this ab injury definitely affected his first serve percentage. McEnroe said it's Jannik's worst first serve percentage in all of their h2hs.
Sure Carlos played great, but you have to think that Sinner would not have been so easily broken.

I like both players but any fan who watches these two knows Sinner had a serving issue since that injury timeout from the FAA match. Pretty obvious.
I'd say the same if Carlos were injured and served under 120 for the majority of the match.

This was not one of their classic matches and neither was Wimbledon but at least they were 100%. I think these two will be injured often because of their physical style.
Sorry, here we talk in English, not Excusish. Sinner was 100% fit, he attributed the loss to Raz. Just like Raz served poorly at the W 2025 final despite being healthy, Sinner served poorly in the USO 2025 final despite being healthy. It happens.
 
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Not really he wasn’t convincing and should have lost at RG , then he most at Wimbledon
What about Indian Wells and RG Part 1 and Beijing and Rome and the Cincy destruction before Sinner conveniently avoided the bagel? All not convincing I guess. Also love the "should have" game, seems to be Sinfans biggest argument, that and "injured".

As for Sinner's year, how can his fans possibly be upset? 2 Slams, 4 Slam finals with both losses coming against another ATG, full year at #1 up until the US Open. Nothing to be sad about and certainly not depressed since it's just tennis and something none of us have any control over.
 
Sinner made all slam finals. Alcaraz lost in quarter of AO.

You have to look at the full picture, it is 128 man tournament.
At this level they fight for titles. If you start counting finals (or semifinals, 1/4 finals etc) then it only means you are not good enough to count what really matters.
 
At this level they fight for titles. If you start counting finals (or semifinals, 1/4 finals etc) then it only means you are not good enough to count what really matters.

You cannot be losing early to other players and be considered better. Sinner wasn't allowed a shot at Alcaraz in AO because Alcaraz couldn't make it. That should not be held against Sinner.

This isn't boxing.
 
Sinner has talked about the need to add more variety and 'unpredictability' to his game. He has said that he is willing to make changes to his game and suffer more defeats against other players in the short term, if he feels like it will lead to long-term improvements.

Starting from the Davis Cup finals in 2023, he has lost 7 out of his 8 matches vs. Alcaraz, and has won 113 out of his 117 matches vs. everyone else.

Clearly as others have said, there is scope to improve his serve, especially relative to his height.

But back to back seasons winning multiple grand slams is stellar anyway you look at it. From his perspective, there should be a determination to improve, without being too down-hearted.
 
Sinner should win urgently a minor title, and possibly Shanghai M1000 in order to recover the confidence he lost after the suspension, since Carlitos will be overplayed from now on.
Then again, now that the blueprint to beat Jannik is out and proved, let's see if the rest of the tour can exploit it.
 
Sinner has talked about the need to add more variety and 'unpredictability' to his game. He has said that he is willing to make changes to his game and suffer more defeats against other players in the short term, if he feels like it will lead to long-term improvements.

Starting from the Davis Cup finals in 2023, he has lost 7 out of his 8 matches vs. Alcaraz, and has won 113 out of his 117 matches vs. everyone else.

Clearly as others have said, there is scope to improve his serve, especially relative to his height.

But back to back seasons winning multiple grand slams is stellar anyway you look at it. From his perspective, there should be a determination to improve, without being too down-hearted.
Definetly the right focus. Sinner is smart, the only thing that really counts tennis-wise is AO26.
 
Sinner should win urgently a minor title, and possibly Shanghai M1000 in order to recover the confidence he lost after the suspension, since Carlitos will be overplayed from now on.
Then again, now that the blueprint to beat Jannik is out and proved, let's see if the rest of the tour can exploit it.

Love this place LOL
 
Clearly the abdominal injury hampered his serve. While his conditioning has improved a lot over the past few years, he's got a slight build and I wonder if injuries may be a problem for him as the years start to pile up.
 
Sinner holds this honor, with Federer! What is it?

Both held match points at slams, and let everything slip his fingers. Federer held double match points twice at US and once at WB, against Djokovic. Sinner held match point(s} at US, and triple match points and at RG, against Alcaraz. What kind of match points did Sinner at US hold? I frankly don't remember, but people said so!

Both Djokovic and Alcaraz will be the toughest nuts to crack! Between Federer and Sinner, who is tougher?
 
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"Pigeon" Sinner won the most valuable title this year, and this pretty convincingly over his so-called nemesis..
 
Definetly the right focus. Sinner is smart, the only thing that really counts tennis-wise is AO26.

Agreed.

He has already spent a good chunk of time as the world no. 1, finished as the year end no. 1 and won the ATP Finals.

IMO he shouldn't obsess too much about trying to regain the world no. 1 ranking this year, and should use the post-US Open tournaments and his training sessions around them, as an opportunity to try out new things with his game, whether it is more slices, drop-shots, continuing the net approaches etc. Losses in Shanghai or even the ATP Finals (which he has already won) are not a disaster at all - there was a hysterical over-reaction to Alcaraz's post-US Open results in the past.

Nadal came out of the Indian Wells-Miami swing in 2008, with a significantly improved backhand slice. He didn't win either of those tournaments, but he made a crucial enhancement to his game (especially with Wimbledon in mind), so it was a clear success.

And there shouldn't be any doom and gloom from his perspective. He's already in a very strong position, having won 2 grand slams this year as he did last year, and being astronomically better than everyone else on the tour apart from 1 other player. If he had a choice of winning one tournament at the start of this year, I think it surely would have been Wimbledon ahead of anything else; becoming a Wimbledon champion still catapults players and their overall standing to another level. So ultimately he struck gold in what was the single most important event from his perspective.
 
I would count the Katar event 2024 too, and a Wimbledon title is still a Wimbledon title, what would Alcaraz like more to have, a third successive Wim or another USO title?.
 
Agreed.

He has already spent a good chunk of time as the world no. 1, finished as the year end no. 1 and won the ATP Finals.

IMO he shouldn't obsess too much about trying to regain the world no. 1 ranking this year, and should use the post-US Open tournaments and his training sessions around them, as an opportunity to try out new things with his game, whether it is more slices, drop-shots, continuing the net approaches etc. Losses in Shanghai or even the ATP Finals (which he has already won) are not a disaster at all - there was a hysterical over-reaction to Alcaraz's post-US Open results in the past.

Nadal came out of the Indian Wells-Miami swing in 2008, with a significantly improved backhand slice. He didn't win either of those tournaments, but he made a crucial enhancement to his game (especially with Wimbledon in mind), so it was a clear success.

And there shouldn't be any doom and gloom from his perspective. He's already in a very strong position, having won 2 grand slams this year as he did last year, and being astronomically better than everyone else on the tour apart from 1 other player. If he had a choice of winning one tournament at the start of this year, I think it surely would have been Wimbledon ahead of anything else; becoming a Wimbledon champion still catapults players and their overall standing to another level. So ultimately he struck gold in what was the single most important event from his perspective.
Sure, he has had a great season, but imo he can improve massively, and he cant really accept a H2H like this vs Raz. I agree, AO26 is all that matters, he should use the rest of the year to aim for that, even if it could cost him YEC and a few masters.
 
Personally? I felt despite all that spectacular show, I felt like had Sinner shown any signs of a lockdown mode, just play his usual game and focus on himself, he would have either won or would have ran Alcaraz way too close.
Makes absolutely no sense given what we saw in the match as well as heard in the press conferences. Wishing on a star. Team Alcaraz did their homework after Wimbledon. Practically everything was done with the potential next match against Sinner in mind. Alcaraz did not allow Sinner his comfort and rhythm. Contrary to what most were probably expecting it was instead Sinner who was rushed in addition to being fed different kinds of looks. And as the serve performances from Wimbledon were also reversed, this is the scoreline you got. In all of their matches it starts with the serve. If you have a poor serve day (for Sinner it was the entire tournament though!) you're in trouble.
 
You know I read an article the other day. Those with highly obsessed over celebrities and athletes are deemed unhealthy and low IQ.

This got me thinking how some here obsess over Sinner winning and losing. “Greatness”
I have those I like, I don't obsess over any and would never call any of them my "hero".
 
Sinner lost only to Alcaraz. Alcaraz lost to Sinner and Djokovic.

If anything, the tie break is not losing to the old guy.
Your problem is you focus on Djokovic too much. Alcaraz has owned sinner in most the matches and won more tournaments this year. Carlos back to no1, won more events and they level in slams. Alcaraz deserves to be no1 as we sit.

Your obsession for players to beat Djokovic clouds your rational thinking sir.
 
Sinner's 1st serve percentage in the fourth set was 36%. I like Cahill but am looking forward to a fresh start when he leaves and let's get a serve expert (Salzenstein, Goran) to tweak the first serve. Seems like Jannik did try something new this tournament, a lower toss but it's not helping.
 
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