To be a GOAT, i think one needs 5+ majors on 2 surfaces ?

chandu612 said:
Oh did I hurt you??lol
Now you know why I assumed you are a girl.

Now stop feeding the troll posts with Fed bias and all the while believing you dont have a bias, you are not trolling and that you are balanced poster. Or else somebody's gonna get hurt bad (if you heard that joke before)
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Please dont use this thread to derail for personal arguments.
 
tennisaddict said:
There is no argument, it is a debate. I think what distinguishes the elite is the fact that they were great on more than 1 surface and i think that is the hallmark of the greatest player.
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Argument, debate, not much of a difference there. Both used to try to persuade others using facts/opinions. I don't mean an argument in the sense of a fight, obviously.

Either way, at least now you're saying that this his how you feel/think about the greatest player metrics.
 
tennisaddict said:
why this twisted logic as to how you perform on your worst ?

Why not straight forward logic - perform well on at least 2 out of 3 surfaces ?
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Perform well is a poor choice of words. 99.99% of professional tennis players would love Nadal's career alone on any of the 3 current surfaces- clay, grass, or hard courts, even if he never won a match on the other 2. Murray, Roddick or Hewitt certainly would. Nadal's career on hard courts or grass alone trumps their whole careers, yet on this forum they are talked as great players.
 
illusions30 said:
Perform well is a poor choice of words. 99.99% of professional tennis players would love Nadal's career alone on any of the 3 current surfaces- clay, grass, or hard courts, even if he never won a match on the other 2. Murray, Roddick or Hewitt certainly would. Nadal's career on hard courts or grass alone trumps their whole careers, yet on this forum they are talked as great players.
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Murray, Roddick or Hewitt are great players, not greatest and no where in that conversation. Big difference.
 
Exactly. Yes, it's great that Nadal has won 8 RGs, but what's his highest number of wins at another slam beside it? Just 2 and he is supposed to be better than Borg, Sampras and Federer who all have 5+ slam wins at multiple slams. Nadal is only the GOAT in the minds of his delusional fans and fickle commentators, who chat rubbish just to promote the game of tennis.
 
Rafael Nadal's achievments:

-Youngst player to achieve career Grand Slam (24)
-26 ATP1000 titles (still counting)
-9 consecutive years with at least one GS title (2005-2013, still counting)
-9 consecutive years with at least one ATP1000 title (still counting)
-Olympic singles gold medal
-Only player to win MORE THAN ONE ATP tournament at least SEVEN times (Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Roland Garros)
-Best career match winning percentage - 83.68%
-81 match winning streak on clay
-Clay Slam, Summer Slam
-First player to win the same slam 8 times (Roland Garros)
-Only player to win the same ATP tournament for 8 consecutive years (Monte Carlo)

Having in mind all of these stats i deem Rafa the GOAT for 2 reasons: 1) His gargantuan will to perform well OUTSIDE THE SLAMS too, 2) For his impeccable comebacks from malign injuries (2008, 2010, 2013). For me these comebacks are 10 times more impressive than Roger's 302 weeks on top. Rafa said that he'd play as long as he feels passionate for the game. Don't forget he's just 27. I admire his will to always improve his weaker elements!
 
According to some posters here, Wilander is greater than Borg and Sampras. After all he has multiple majors on every surface. :)
 
tennisaddict said:
Murray, Roddick or Hewitt are great players, not greatest and no where in that conversation. Big difference.
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Well I am sure you consider Federer a "great" clay court player, and Nadal has achieved more on every surface of today than Federer has on clay.

The point of this thread seems to be to show Nadal on his 2nd best surface isnt as great as other top 5 GOATs on their 2nd best. This is true. However Nadal on both his best and worst surfaces is probably better than anyone in history on their best and worst surface too. That counts for something big as well.
 
tennisaddict said:
How can some people claim Nadal is GOAT or will be the GOAT if he gets to 15 majors is not clear to me .

He does not even have 5+ majors on 2 surfaces.

Federer has. Sampras has. Borg has.

Tennis is a multi surface sport and one cannot claim to be the greatest when your accomplishment is mainly restricted to one surface alone.
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This surface issue is rather moot especially in post-2004 era.

1. in 21st century, we have 4 different surfaces but their differences (after 2004) are very small.
2. In pre-open era, we had 2 surfaces, grass and clay, very different like night and day.
3. During 70s - 90's, we had 4 very different surfaces and very polarized on each surfaces.

This makes it more meaningful to compare how long one dominated the tour
when we (if we really want to) compare different eras and generations, IMHO.
 
Pcdozer413 said:
Rafael Nadal's achievments:

-Youngst player to achieve career Grand Slam (24)
-26 ATP1000 titles (still counting)
-9 consecutive years with at least one GS title (2005-2013, still counting)
-9 consecutive years with at least one ATP1000 title (still counting)
-Olympic singles gold medal
-Only player to win MORE THAN ONE ATP tournament at least SEVEN times (Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Roland Garros)
-Best career match winning percentage - 83.68%
-81 match winning streak on clay
-Clay Slam, Summer Slam
-First player to win the same slam 8 times (Roland Garros)
-Only player to win the same ATP tournament for 8 consecutive years (Monte Carlo)

Having in mind all of these stats i deem Rafa the GOAT for 2 reasons: 1) His gargantuan will to perform well OUTSIDE THE SLAMS too, 2) For his impeccable comebacks from malign injuries (2008, 2010, 2013). For me these comebacks are 10 times more impressive than Roger's 302 weeks on top. Rafa said that he'd play as long as he feels passionate for the game. Don't forget he's just 27. I admire his will to always improve his weaker elements!
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You missed:
- Only player in open era to have multiple slams on all three surfaces.
- Good H2H against big 3 (Brutal against a supposed goat candidate) and better H2H against top 30 players which apparently never happened
 
ARFED said:
According to some posters here, Wilander is greater than Borg and Sampras. After all he has multiple majors on every surface. :)
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Had Wilander reached 12 slams, and had an event decent performance at Wimbledon, he probably would be greater today than Sampras and Borg, as Nadal already is.
 
ultradr said:
This surface issue is rather moot especially in post-2004 era.

1. in 21st century, we have 4 different surfaces but their differences (after 2004) are very small.
2. In pre-open era, we had 2 surfaces, grass and clay, very different like night and day.
3. During 70s - 90's, we had 4 very different surfaces and very polarized on each surfaces.

This makes it more meaningful to compare how long one dominated the tour
when we (if we really want to) compare different eras and generations, IMHO.
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It is not moot in post 2004.

There are 3 different surfaces - clay, hard and Grass.

Federer has been winning grass, Nadal has been winning clay and Federer with Novak on hard for the most part.

If the surfaces were similar then Fed should have won on clay as well or Nadal on grass.
 
illusions30 said:
Well I am sure you consider Federer a "great" clay court player, and Nadal has achieved more on every surface of today than Federer has on clay.

The point of this thread seems to be to show Nadal on his 2nd best surface isnt as great as other top 5 GOATs on their 2nd best. This is true. However Nadal on both his best and worst surfaces is probably better than anyone in history on their best and worst surface too. That counts for something big as well.
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Nadal on his worst surface is more accomplished in terms of results than Fed at his worst. No doubt.

But when talking about greatest, we have to see to what extent they were great on their greatest surface(s) and not by what extent they were low on their weaker surface.
 
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tennisaddict said:
Nadal on his worst surface is more accomplished in terms of results than Fed at his worst. No doubt.

But when talking about greatest, we have to see to what extent they were great on their greatest surface and not by what extent they were low on their weaker surface.
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That is because the hard court season is twice the length of the clay court season.
 
Who Am I? said:
That is because the hard court season is twice the length of the clay court season.
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I know that. Inspite of twice the opportunity, he has not had a great '2nd' surface.

Fed's record of 4+ wins at 3 majors is insane if you ask me. I dont want to list every record he has.

To me what is finally very very important is if someone is to be considered greatest, at a minimum they need to be great on 2 surfaces.
 
illusions30 said:
Had Wilander reached 12 slams, and had an event decent performance at Wimbledon, he probably would be greater today than Sampras and Borg, as Nadal already is.
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Ok, look at it this way. Off the 5 main events in te ATP circuit (4 majors+WTF), Nadal has dominated only 1, albeit he dominated RG like no one ever dominated any event. Borg dominated 2, Sampras 3 and Federer arguably 4 (not so sure about the AO). IMO Nadal needs to be dominant in at least one other major event to apply for the position of GOAT of the open era
 
ARFED said:
Ok, look at it this way. Off the 5 main events in te ATP circuit (4 majors+WTF), Nadal has dominated only 1, albeit he dominated RG like no one ever dominated any event. Borg dominated 2, Sampras 3 and Federer arguably 4 (not so sure about the AO). IMO Nadal needs to be dominant in at least one other major event to apply for the position of GOAT of the open era
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Exactly and Fed co-holds the most number of AO titles in the open era, so you can say he dominated that too.
 
Crisstti said:
Lol, you're just saying two out of three because that's what Fed has. Sure, let's just give him a pass for performing comparatively poorly on the other one.
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Poor ?? :confused:

He's the AO goat with 4 slams, 5 finals.

He's the 2nd best cc in his generation, only because Nadal is the clay goat. He's is also 1 of the 4 players(Nadal, Borg, Lendl) who made at least 5 FO finals, and is ranked top 10 greatest clay courter of all time.
 
ARFED said:
Ok, look at it this way. Off the 5 main events in te ATP circuit (4 majors+WTF), Nadal has dominated only 1, albeit he dominated RG like no one ever dominated any event. Borg dominated 2, Sampras 3 and Federer arguably 4 (not so sure about the AO). IMO Nadal needs to be dominant in at least one other major event to apply for the position of GOAT of the open era
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Nice post. Nadal fans will argue WTF is not a big event., it is an exho.

Nevertheless what you are saying is (excluding WTF)

- Nadal dominated 1 major
- Borg dominated 2
- Sampras dominated 2
- Federer dominated 3

It is incredible if you look at it that way.
 
tennisaddict said:
I didnt say Fed alone. I included Sampras and Borg as well. I think that is what makes them special.
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I think you're being generous to Nadal. These guys have won the WTF multiple times but Nadal hasn't won 1. Even the 2nd tier great players like Lendl/Mac have won 3.
 
the most important thing, is that Rafa himself doesn't care about GOAT or 15 or 17 or 5+ on 2 or what not. All he cares about is doing the best he can, being competitive, and playing his darn hardest, all the while being respectful to his opponents and being grateful for the privilege of even competing.

that's the Rafa spirit. Vamos!
 
tipsa...don'tlikehim! said:
I know what you mean, but we'll notice something relevant.
How many times federer fans use "if s" when comes the H2H or the GOAT debate ?

I nearly never saw Nadal fans say "if if if" like Fed fans do... think about it (i don't mean you , i'm saying in general ;))
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I agree! Its giving people slams they didn't win. For example if Djokovic picks up a couple of RG's without beating Nadal, he would still be a better clay court player than Fed despite Fed being a better clay court PLAYER because he was always there but it took the clay GOAT to stop him. But Djokovic as a result of numbers would be rated higher!

And I also think the "if if if" arguments Fed fans like to use is because Nadal stopped Fed from basically winning 11 straight slams (21-23 total) and so they love to bring that up. Where as if Fed didn't exist Nadal would have just 2 more wimby's!
 
TMF said:
I think you're being generous to Nadal. These guys have won the WTF multiple times but Nadal hasn't won 1. Even the 2nd tier great players like Lendl/Mac have won 3.
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For the purpose of this thread, i gave Nadal 2 major allowance

- did not consider WTF

- did not consider by major , I lumped AO and USO together.

If you take into consideration these, then the gap is worse.

I want to keep it simple for Nadal fans to understand the enormity of the gap.

How can you consider someone as the greatest when you have 3 other players who are greatest on 2 of 3 surfaces ?
 
chicagodude said:
Then there are still plenty of stats Fed has over Nadal. Who at that point is GOAT is still debatable, although obviously you'll find many more in favor of Nadal at that point.
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Saying Fed isn't goat is the same as saying Graf isn't goat.
 
chicagodude said:
For me, that would also be the main thing. But 'most of the records' is also somewhat subjective. Which records exactly?
Consistency is great and for me it's also important, but I can understand anyone arguing against its importance too.

If someone can't be bothered to motivate himself for any tournaments outside the GS and loses constantly, but wins every GS tournament for 6 years straight, would he be the GOAT? I don't know, but you could certainly make an argument for it...

Frankly, even if Nadal wins everything there is the next 3 years, gets the weeks #1 record, GS record, YE#1 record and has >20 GS titles, you could still find arguments to call Fed the GOAT. The last argument for people would probably be his fluid, effortless style.
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Please read this thread.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=479913
 
tipsa...don'tlikehim! said:
I know what you mean, but we'll notice something relevant.
How many times federer fans use "if s" when comes the H2H or the GOAT debate ?

I nearly never saw Nadal fans say "if if if" like Fed fans do... think about it (i don't mean you , i'm saying in general ;))
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Fine. Remove all the if and but and here's what we have.....


Player of the decade
2000 - 2009: Federer
1990 - 1999: Sampras
1980 - 1989: Lendl
1970 - 1979: Borg
1960 - 1969: Laver

Most GS titles
1. Roger Federer 17*
2. Pete Sampras 14
3. Rafael Nadal 13*
4. Björn Borg 11
5. Jimmy Connors 8
= Ivan Lendl 8
= Andre Agassi 8
8. John McEnroe 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Dkokovic 6*
= Stefan Edberg 6
= Boris Becker 6

GS finals
1. Roger Federer 24*
2. Ivan Lendl 19
3. Pete Sampras 18
= Rafael Nadal 18*
5. Björn Borg 16
6. Jimmy Connors 15
= Andre Agassi 15
8. John McEnroe 11
= Mats Wilander 11
= Stefan Edberg 11
=Novak Djokovic 11*

Consecutive GS finals
1. Roger Federer 10*
2. Roger Federer 8
3. Rafael Nadal 5*
4. Andre Agassi 4
= Rod Laver 4
= Novak Djokovic 4*
7. Jimmy Connors 3
= Andy Murray 3*
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Mats Wilander 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Pete Sampras 3
= Rafael Nadal 3*


GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 33*
2. Jimmy Connors 31
3. Ivan Lendl 28
4. Andre Agassi 26
5. Pete Sampras 23
6. Rafael Nadal 21*
= Novak Djokovic 21*
7. John McEnroe 19
= Stefan Edberg 19
9. Boris Becker 18
10. Björn Borg 17


Consecutive GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 23*
2. Novak Djokovic 14*
3. Ivan Lendl 10
4. Ivan Lendl 6
= Nadal 6
6. Novak Djokovic 5*
= Andy Murray 5*
= Boris Becker 5
9. Roger Federer 4*
= Rod Laver 4
= Tony Roche 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
= Jim Courer 4
= Nadal 4*


GS quarter-finals
1. Jimmy Connors 41
2. Roger Federer 40*(41 if not for walk-over in 2004)
3. Agassi 36
4. Ivan Lendl 34
5. Pete Sampras 29
6. John McEnroe 26
= Stefan Edberg 26
7. Novak Djokovic 26*
8. Rafael Nadal 25*
9. Boris Becker 23
10. Björn Borg 21

Consecutive GS quarter-finals
1. Roger Federer 36*
2. Ivan Lendl 14
= 3. Novak Djokovic 18*
4. Rafael Nadal 11
5. = Andy Murray 11*
6. Pete Sampras 10
7. Ivan Lendl 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Andre Agassi 6
= Rafael Nadal 6*

All Four Slams Per Year
Rod Laver 1969

Three Slams Per Year
Jimmy Connors 1974
Mats Wilander 1988
Roger Federer 2004
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Rafael Nadal 2010
Novak Djokovic 2011


All Four Finals Per Year
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2009
Rod Laver 1969

All Four Semi-finals Per Year
Rod Laver 1969
Ivan Lendl 1987
Roger Federer 2005
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2008
Roger Federer 2009
Rafael Nadal 2008
Novak Djokovic 2011
Novak Djokovic 2012
Novak Djokovic 2013
Andy Murray 2011

Most consecutive matches won at one Grand Slam event:
1. Björn Borg (Wimbledon), 41
2. Roger Federer (Wimbledon), 40(41 if not for walk-over in 2007)
= Roger Federer (US Open), 40
4. Pete Sampras (Wimbledon), 31
= Rafael Nadal (French Open), 31


Most Grand Slam match wins
1. Roger Federer 259*
2. Jimmy Connors 233
3. Andre Agassi 224
4. Ivan Lendl 222
5. Pete Sampras 204

Other Stuff:

Year-End Championships
1. Roger Federer 6*
2. Ivan Lendl 5
= Pete Sampras 5
4. Ilie Nastase 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Boris Becker 3

Most Year-End Championship finals
1. Ivan Lendl 9
2. Federer 8*
= Boris Becker 6
4. Pete Sampras 6
5. Ilie Năstase 4
= Bjorn Borg 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
9. Lleyton Hewitt 3

Most Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer 302*
2. Pete Sampras 286
3. Ivan Lendl 270
4. Jimmy Connors 268
5. John McEnroe 170
6. Björn Borg 109
7. Rafael Nadal 102*
8. Novak Djokovic 99+*
9. Andre Agassi 101
10. Lleyton Hewitt 80


Consecutive Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer (1) 237
2. Jimmy Connors (1) 160
3. Ivan Lendl (1) 157
4. Pete Sampras (1) 102
5. Jimmy Connors (2) 84
6. Pete Sampras (2) 82
7. Ivan Lendl (2) 80
8. Lleyton Hewitt (1) 75
9. John McEnroe (1) 58
10. Rafael Nadal (1) 56

Year End #1
1. Sampras 6
2. Federer 5*
3. Borg 4
4. Connors 3
= Lendl 3
= McEnroe 3


Highest Season Winning Percentage
1. John McEnroe (1984) .965 82–3
2. Jimmy Connors (1974) .959 93–4
3. Roger Federer (2005) .953 81–4
4. Roger Federer (2006) .948 92–5
5. Björn Borg (1979) .933 84–6
6. Ivan Lendl (1986) .925 74–6
7. Roger Federer (2004) .925 74–6
8. Ivan Lendl (1985) .923 84–7
9. Ivan Lendl (1982) .922 106–9
10. Björn Borg (1980) .921 70–6
= Novak Djokovic (2011) 0.921 70-6

Most ATP Titles
1. Jimmy Connors 109
2. Ivan Lendl 94
3. Roger Federer 77*
= John McEnroe 77
5. Björn Borg 64
= Pete Sampras 64
7. Guillermo Vilas 62
8. Andre Agassi 60
9. = Rafael Nadal 60*
10. Boris Becker 49

Most Master Series or equivalent win
1. Rafael Nadal 26(mostly 3 set final)
2. Ivan Lendl 22
3. Roger Federer 21
4. John McEnroe 19
5. Andre Agassi 17
= Jimmny Connors 17
7. Bjorn Borg 15
8. Novak Djokovic 15
9. Boris Becker 13
10. Pete Sampras 11

Consecutive Match Win Streak
1. Björn Borg 49 1978
2. Björn Borg 48 1979–80
3. Guillermo Vilas 46 1977
4. Ivan Lendl 44 1981–82
5. Novak Djokovic 43 2010–11
6. John McEnroe 42 1984
7. Roger Federer 41 2006–07
8. Thomas Muster 35 1995
= Roger Federer 35 2005
10.Jimmy Connors 33 1974
 
Who Am I? said:
Exactly. Yes, it's great that Nadal has won 8 RGs, but what's his highest number of wins at another slam beside it? Just 2 and he is supposed to be better than Borg, Sampras and Federer who all have 5+ slam wins at multiple slams. Nadal is only the GOAT in the minds of his delusional fans and fickle commentators, who chat rubbish just to promote the game of tennis.
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Many old-timers still have Borg and Sampras ahead of Nadal.
 
objectivity said:
the most important thing, is that Rafa himself doesn't care about GOAT or 15 or 17 or 5+ on 2 or what not. All he cares about is doing the best he can, being competitive, and playing his darn hardest, all the while being respectful to his opponents and being grateful for the privilege of even competing.

that's the Rafa spirit. Vamos!
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Disagree. Uncle Toni and Nadal have already set their goal - to surpass Federer's achievement. They will do anything that is possible including gamesmanship like wasting time, on court coaching, or even request the ATP to change in their favor(e.g. more slow court, cut down indoor tennis, 2 years ranking).
 
TMF said:
Disagree. Uncle Toni and Nadal have already set their goal - to surpass Federer's achievement. They will do anything that is possible including gamesmanship like wasting time, on court coaching, or even request the ATP to change in their favor(e.g. more slow court, cut down indoor tennis, 2 years ranking).
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you disagreed -- that is the surprise of the century.
 
DRII said:
Nadal has 3x the slams on his worst surface (having to beat the best on those surfaces) than Federer has on his worst surface (not having to beat the best on that surface)!

thanks for playing...
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There are 2 hard court Slams compared to 1 on clay. Nice try, bro.
 
To be the GOAT, you have to have 17 slams, 302 weeks at 1 and 6 WTFS. When Nadal breaks all these records, then we talk, and even then we have to consider that he is a product of this era, who at the end of the day is a mere one dimensional clay courter who is benefiting from slowing of the surfaces. He is a regular top ten player in pre homogenised era.
 
Who Am I? said:
To be the GOAT, you have to have 17 slams, 302 weeks at 1 and 6 WTFS. When Nadal breaks all these records, then we talk, and even then we have to consider that he is a product of this era, who at the end of the day is a mere one dimensional clay courter who is benefiting from slowing of the surfaces. He is a regular top ten player in pre homogenised era.
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Rafa is on such spiritual level that he'd be No1 in everything he does! People fail to understand that it doesn't matter which era he meets, he can adjust his game to whatever circumstances and always develop, if he played 15 years ago he was going to be a completely different player...

And that GOAT criteria is silly. Truth is that only slam count keeps Federer on top for now. Outside the slams Fed's stats don't stand a chance against Rafa's thunderous results.

It's only adequate to compare when both are done with their careers, and Rafa still has many years unlike others say. His career was supposed to be over at 25 haha. I also love how he proves wrong the "experts" time and time again...:)
 
Wrong..

Player of the decade
2000 - 2009: Federer
1990 - 1999: Sampras
1980 - 1989: Lendl
1970 - 1979: Borg
1960 - 1969: Laver

Most GS titles
1. Roger Federer 17*
2. Pete Sampras 14
3. Rafael Nadal 13*
4. Björn Borg 11
5. Jimmy Connors 8
= Ivan Lendl 8
= Andre Agassi 8
8. John McEnroe 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Dkokovic 6*
= Stefan Edberg 6
= Boris Becker 6

GS finals
1. Roger Federer 24*
2. Ivan Lendl 19
3. Pete Sampras 18
= Rafael Nadal 18*
5. Björn Borg 16
6. Jimmy Connors 15
= Andre Agassi 15
8. John McEnroe 11
= Mats Wilander 11
= Stefan Edberg 11
=Novak Djokovic 11*

Consecutive GS finals
1. Roger Federer 10*
2. Roger Federer 8
3. Rafael Nadal 5*
4. Andre Agassi 4
= Rod Laver 4
= Novak Djokovic 4*
7. Jimmy Connors 3
= Andy Murray 3*
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Mats Wilander 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Pete Sampras 3
= Rafael Nadal 3*


GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 33*
2. Jimmy Connors 31
3. Ivan Lendl 28
4. Andre Agassi 26
5. Pete Sampras 23
6. Rafael Nadal 21*
= Novak Djokovic 21*
7. John McEnroe 19
= Stefan Edberg 19
9. Boris Becker 18
10. Björn Borg 17


Consecutive GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 23*
2. Novak Djokovic 14*
3. Ivan Lendl 10
4. Ivan Lendl 6
= Nadal 6
6. Novak Djokovic 5*
= Andy Murray 5*
= Boris Becker 5
9. Roger Federer 4*
= Rod Laver 4
= Tony Roche 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
= Jim Courer 4
= Nadal 4*


GS quarter-finals
1. Jimmy Connors 41
2. Roger Federer 40*(41 if not for walk-over in 2004)
3. Agassi 36
4. Ivan Lendl 34
5. Pete Sampras 29
6. John McEnroe 26
= Stefan Edberg 26
7. Novak Djokovic 26*
8. Rafael Nadal 25*
9. Boris Becker 23
10. Björn Borg 21

Consecutive GS quarter-finals
1. Roger Federer 36*
2. Ivan Lendl 14
= 3. Novak Djokovic 18*
4. Rafael Nadal 11
5. = Andy Murray 11*
6. Pete Sampras 10
7. Ivan Lendl 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Andre Agassi 6
= Rafael Nadal 6*

All Four Slams Per Year
Rod Laver 1969

Three Slams Per Year
Jimmy Connors 1974
Mats Wilander 1988
Roger Federer 2004
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Rafael Nadal 2010
Novak Djokovic 2011


All Four Finals Per Year
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2009
Rod Laver 1969

All Four Semi-finals Per Year
Rod Laver 1969
Ivan Lendl 1987
Roger Federer 2005
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2008
Roger Federer 2009
Rafael Nadal 2008
Novak Djokovic 2011
Novak Djokovic 2012
Novak Djokovic 2013
Andy Murray 2011

Most consecutive matches won at one Grand Slam event:
1. Björn Borg (Wimbledon), 41
2. Roger Federer (Wimbledon), 40(41 if not for walk-over in 2007)
= Roger Federer (US Open), 40
4. Pete Sampras (Wimbledon), 31
= Rafael Nadal (French Open), 31


Most Grand Slam match wins
1. Roger Federer 259*
2. Jimmy Connors 233
3. Andre Agassi 224
4. Ivan Lendl 222
5. Pete Sampras 204

Other Stuff:

Year-End Championships
1. Roger Federer 6*
2. Ivan Lendl 5
= Pete Sampras 5
4. Ilie Nastase 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Boris Becker 3

Most Year-End Championship finals
1. Ivan Lendl 9
2. Federer 8*
= Boris Becker 6
4. Pete Sampras 6
5. Ilie Năstase 4
= Bjorn Borg 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
9. Lleyton Hewitt 3

Most Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer 302*
2. Pete Sampras 286
3. Ivan Lendl 270
4. Jimmy Connors 268
5. John McEnroe 170
6. Björn Borg 109
7. Rafael Nadal 102*
8. Novak Djokovic 99+*
9. Andre Agassi 101
10. Lleyton Hewitt 80


Consecutive Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer (1) 237
2. Jimmy Connors (1) 160
3. Ivan Lendl (1) 157
4. Pete Sampras (1) 102
5. Jimmy Connors (2) 84
6. Pete Sampras (2) 82
7. Ivan Lendl (2) 80
8. Lleyton Hewitt (1) 75
9. John McEnroe (1) 58
10. Rafael Nadal (1) 56

Year End #1
1. Sampras 6
2. Federer 5*
3. Borg 4
4. Connors 3
= Lendl 3
= McEnroe 3


Highest Season Winning Percentage
1. John McEnroe (1984) .965 82–3
2. Jimmy Connors (1974) .959 93–4
3. Roger Federer (2005) .953 81–4
4. Roger Federer (2006) .948 92–5
5. Björn Borg (1979) .933 84–6
6. Ivan Lendl (1986) .925 74–6
7. Roger Federer (2004) .925 74–6
8. Ivan Lendl (1985) .923 84–7
9. Ivan Lendl (1982) .922 106–9
10. Björn Borg (1980) .921 70–6
= Novak Djokovic (2011) 0.921 70-6

Most ATP Titles
1. Jimmy Connors 109
2. Ivan Lendl 94
3. Roger Federer 77*
= John McEnroe 77
5. Björn Borg 64
= Pete Sampras 64
7. Guillermo Vilas 62
8. Andre Agassi 60
9. = Rafael Nadal 60*
10. Boris Becker 49

Most Master Series or equivalent win
1. Rafael Nadal 26(mostly 3 set final)
2. Ivan Lendl 22
3. Roger Federer 21
4. John McEnroe 19
5. Andre Agassi 17
= Jimmny Connors 17
7. Bjorn Borg 15
8. Novak Djokovic 15
9. Boris Becker 13
10. Pete Sampras 11

Consecutive Match Win Streak
1. Björn Borg 49 1978
2. Björn Borg 48 1979–80
3. Guillermo Vilas 46 1977
4. Ivan Lendl 44 1981–82
5. Novak Djokovic 43 2010–11
6. John McEnroe 42 1984
7. Roger Federer 41 2006–07
8. Thomas Muster 35 1995
= Roger Federer 35 2005
10.Jimmy Connors 33 1974

Pcdozer413 said:
And that GOAT criteria is silly. Truth is that only slam count keeps Federer on top for now. Outside the slams Fed's stats don't stand a chance against Rafa's thunderous results.
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Backspin1183 said:
No! The GOAT should be more versatile than that. Should have at least 2 slams on all three surface!
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While 2 slams all surfaces is good, that alone cannot make them a GOAT.

Out of 4 surfaces, they need to show utter domination on at least 2 of them.

Borg, Sampras and Fed have done it. so, it is not out of the realm of possibilities.
 
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