Tokyo Olympics SF: [1] Novak Djokovic vs. [4] Alexander Zverev

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BlueB

Legend
Just woke up, after a short sleep, after watching the singles fiasco... What to say?
Inexplicable choke by Nole :(
Not to take anything from Zverev, he picked up his game when it mattered the most and played great.Well done!

On the bright side, Nole will have to play for another 3 years, at least! Hold your hats! :)
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Come off it Mainad ! - When FeDalovic NEVER win an Olympic Gold in this "meaningless little expo"*
it's because they can't be arsed and they aren't bothered about it - OF COURSE !
I mean winning an Olympic medal is just nothing right? - No effort required by anyone.
Anyone can be a double Olympic champion.

See how easily the Murray breezed past Delpotro here - Delpo just handed the match to the Bin Man bum.
He didn't really try at all !

Clearly Novak tanked because he was injured or didn't care or hurt his toe or something.

But most of all we all know what a great sportsman Novak is - he let Zed win because Novaks like that - You know, generous and never cheats ( on anyone ), let's people beat him all the time! Never fakes injury or anything like that. - That's why he's the most popular of the Big 4 such a lovely generous chap........

* Ref - TTW.
Don't hold back @Picmun. Tell it like it is!
 
I am shocked. Missed the match. Shock that novak won the first set 6-1 and lost the damn match. Novak needs to take some time off until the us open.
It doesn’t totally surprise me. Although Novak won first set 6-1 all games were close and Zverev was right there. It didn’t feel he was far away from turning the tide and that occurred in mid 2nd set then he got on top and djoko just wilted under pressure.

These things happen and Zverev deserved it. You right djoko needs a break before the ys open. After this I don’t think he needs to play a masters warmup to be honest. He needs to hit the reset button like Nadal did after the french.
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
It doesn’t totally surprise me. Although Novak won first set 6-1 all games were close and Zverev was right there. It didn’t feel he was far away from turning the tide and that occurred in mid 2nd set then he got on top and djoko just wilted under pressure.

These things happen and Zverev deserved it. You right djoko needs a break before the is open. After this I don’t think he needs to play a masters warmup to be honest. He needs to hit the reset button like Nadal did after the french.
Feels like Olympic gold is just not meant to be for him somehow. All eyes now on the US Open in a few weeks time. I agree with you that he should take a break between now and then and refresh himself physically and mentally. He's won 3 out of the 4 Slams so far this season, can there be anything more worthy of the world #1 player?
 
Feels like Olympic gold is just not meant to be for him somehow. All eyes now on the US Open in a few weeks time. I agree with you that he should take a break between now and then and refresh himself physically and mentally. He's won 3 out of the 4 Slams so far this season, can there be anything more worthy of the world #1 player?
Yeah I’m over it already. He won all the slams this year which is what matters the most. Yeah he’s in a great position. This will hurt him for a while more than even us fans because he takes the olympics very seriously and wants to do his country proud.

Djokovic and the Serbian fans especially will be more upset. He’s so mentally strong though so I have no doubt he will bounce back.

Yeah I feel he needs a rest now to refresh. He’s played a hell of a lot of tennis matches over different surfaces in a short space of time. He needs to reset physically and mentally as the us open for me is a wide open event. There’s at least 5-6 players who I feel can win it. It’s been an open slam for years and the same this year. Zverev after this Olympics will be very dangerous there.
 

gameovais

Rookie
It just goes to show how truly spectacular your season must be to win the golden slam. You need stay fit, beat all comers in all conditions with scheduling mishaps and whatever else happens. Even with that you need a bit of luck and heck of a lot of fight to even get close. Puts into perspective just what Djokovic has done so far this year and what the Great Steffi Graf did all those years ago.

Now is a time to really take stock for Djokovic. Body blow for sure. But bigger fish to fry.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Yeah I’m over it already. He won all the slams this year which is what matters the most. Yeah he’s in a great position. This will hurt him for a while more than even us fans because he takes the olympics very seriously and wants to do his country proud.

Djokovic and the Serbian fans especially will be more upset. He’s so mentally strong though so I have no doubt he will bounce back.

Yeah I feel he needs a rest now to refresh. He’s played a hell of a lot of tennis matches over different surfaces in a short space of time. He needs to reset physically and mentally as the us open for me is a wide open event. There’s at least 5-6 players who I feel can win it. It’s been an open slam for years and the same this year. Zverev after this Olympics will be very dangerous there.
Tad dissapointed however was nervous facing Zverev.
When on song is Novaks biggest threat especially in BO3.
Wanted him to skip the Olympics anyway
 

Picmun

Hall of Fame
It doesn’t totally surprise me. Although Novak won first set 6-1 all games were close and Zverev was right there. It didn’t feel he was far away from turning the tide and that occurred in mid 2nd set then he got on top and djoko just wilted under pressure.

These things happen and Zverev deserved it. Your right djoko needs a break before the ys open. After this I don’t think he needs to play a masters warmup to be honest. He needs to hit the reset button like Nadal did after the french.

"then he [ Zed of all people, the choke artiste resently distroyed by a Bin Man Bum ] got on top and djoko just wilted under pressure."


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Picmun

Hall of Fame
Don't hold back @Picmun. Tell it like it is!
After the abuse and blatant bias Sir Andrew Murray has suffered at the hands of the the arm chair experts of TTW over decades @Mainad, don't you think "the worlds mightiest warrior", greatest cheat and injury faker deseves a little kick now and then ? I know how frowed upon it is on TTW to be even a teensie bit desrespectful of a tennis player, so aware as the contributors are of the God given talent so many players in the top 1000 have! ( And We know that any TTW poaster could beat anyone in the top 500 ! LOL ! )

But I'm sure some contributors and Schloko Fan Boys will always be blind to the irony of it all.

The fact remains that if Cheatovic wins a 50 Slams and 25 Olympic golds, he'll never be as respected or as well liked as Federer, Nedal or Murray or just about any other tennis player. Some call Federer " Fraud " LOL ! The irony of this place !

 
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Indigo

Semi-Pro
Some quotes don't age well, but we all make poor predictions.
Yes, definitely a poor prediction. You never know with Novak. Many times he returns from death, but sometimes death comes for his suddenly. Honestly, I couldn't believe he won first 6:1, it was too good to be true, hence the euphoria. It's dream come to an end for Novak. Sad day for him, but the losses like this one will come in greater numbers as the time passes by. He needs to recuperate and forget this loss as soon as possible, otherwise another 2016 looms around the corner.
 

tennis24x7

Semi-Pro
Honest assessment from Novak.

People who talk down the Olympics are doing so out of fandom-based insecurity, all that matters is the importance the competitors place upon the prize.

Djokovic (if healthy) will go again in 2024.
What everyone is saying is it pales in comparison to what he "can" achieve. Nobody after Laver has been in his position to achieve the calendar year slam which will cement his GOAT status. He might get another shot at the Olympic gold but the calendar year shot will never come again for him.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
This is a devastating loss. :cry: I would take 1 Olympics Singles gold over 1 slam and maybe even 3 WTF.
:-D You're literally the only human being on earth who would make that trade. It's like trading a sleeping bag on the street for a beachfront mansion worth 50 million. But everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
 
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stringertom

Bionic Poster
It must be some poetic justice that Djokovic and Fed never got the singles gold and Nadal never got the WTF.

It is somewhat Djokovic's fault for entering mixed doubles in these conditions knowing he would have to play 3 days in a row to get to the final.
Fooled just like Gordon Gecko; greed is not good.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
What everyone is saying is it pales in comparison to what he "can" achieve. Nobody after Laver has been in his position to achieve the calendar year slam which will cement his GOAT status. He might get another shot at the Olympic gold but the calendar year shot will never come again for him.
Sexist post. Steffi Graf is still the only GCYGS champion.
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
Djokovic lost his mixed doubles match so no gold there either. Perhaps two bronze medals though... hoping Pablo wins the men's singles bronze though!
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
He maybe should not have played Mixed doubles.
The Serbian team was completely against it, but Novak wanted to play. The comments below from Serbian Davis Cup captain Troicki are very interesting:

“I was against him playing mixed doubles. The whole team was against it. It was just him, he wanted to play. I thought he had enough of tennis the last months. Really, he played so much. Everyone was thinking about the singles. When he said he wanted to play mixed, I was like, ‘OK, if it means that much to him and he wants to prove that he’s ready and in the mixed matches he’s giving everything, he’s 100% focused on going all the way, then OK.'"

https://apnews.com/article/2020-tok...olympic-team-d8adc9ab856e0bc777ec323ac019b411
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
People who talk down the Olympics are doing so out of fandom-based insecurity, all that matters is the importance the competitors place upon the prize.
Nonsense. If the Olympics were so vital and of such dizzying importance, why does the ATP award an OGM zero points? For years, the Nadal fan base claimed the YEC was a "silly exo," but it awards 1500 points to an undefeated winner. Millions of tennis fans hold this (sensible view): tennis shouldn't be in the Olympics. It's just vanity for the players, not relevant to the vast majority of tennis fans who aren't living vicariously through their idols.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
According to wiki dates Graf had already won US before Olympics were held in 1988? and since this is under men's match did not mean to be sexist at all.
Seoul is too hot in July/August to play and TV money back then didn’t dictate the lunacy that Tokyo in July is causing. Their 1964 Olympics were also held in the cooler autumn calendar section.
 

gn

G.O.A.T.
I did not watch the match but I was shocked when I saw the result. Did Djokovic forget that it is too early for Bo5?
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
Novak was clearly physically spent. A fit Novak would have thrashed Zverev in straights.
This loss will make Novak SUPER DANGEROUS at the UsOpen.
He's now got the bogey off his back. Expect him to win UsOpen without losing many sets, perhaps not even a single set.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
It doesn’t totally surprise me. Although Novak won first set 6-1 all games were close and Zverev was right there. It didn’t feel he was far away from turning the tide and that occurred in mid 2nd set then he got on top and djoko just wilted under pressure.

These things happen and Zverev deserved it. You right djoko needs a break before the ys open. After this I don’t think he needs to play a masters warmup to be honest. He needs to hit the reset button like Nadal did after the french.
Novak was totally out of this physically. I saw the match. And after Zverev saved the breakpoint in set 2, you could see it from Novak's face.
His footwork was off. He was lunging and mistiming his forehand. His drop shots were missing - he wasn't able to defend well too. Playing mixed doubles was a BIG mistake.

Honestly, I didn't see anything very impressive from Zverev. He still didn't play the kind of tennis that he did earlier when he won WTF and beat Nadal. I don't see Zverev winning a slam anytime soon unless he improves significantly.
 
Novak was totally out of this physically. I saw the match. And after Zverev saved the breakpoint in set 2, you could see it from Novak's face.
His footwork was off. He was lunging and mistiming his forehand. His drop shots were missing - he wasn't able to defend well too. Playing mixed doubles was a BIG mistake.

Honestly, I didn't see anything very impressive from Zverev. He still didn't play the kind of tennis that he did earlier when he won WTF and beat Nadal. I don't see Zverev winning a slam anytime soon unless he improves significantly.
I think the us open is gonna be wide open this year bro.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
The Serbian team was completely against it, but Novak wanted to play. The comments below from Serbian Davis Cup captain Troicki are very interesting:

“I was against him playing mixed doubles. The whole team was against it. It was just him, he wanted to play. I thought he had enough of tennis the last months. Really, he played so much. Everyone was thinking about the singles. When he said he wanted to play mixed, I was like, ‘OK, if it means that much to him and he wants to prove that he’s ready and in the mixed matches he’s giving everything, he’s 100% focused on going all the way, then OK.'"

https://apnews.com/article/2020-tok...olympic-team-d8adc9ab856e0bc777ec323ac019b411
Djokovic was destroying the competition in Tokyo on the way to the SF. Zverev played at peak level and Djokovic had no answers. It happens sometimes.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
I think the us open is gonna be wide open this year bro.
You always say that bro but Novak wins. I really feel that it will be Novak vs next gen.
I think people are expecting too much of Nadal. I feel the Spaniard is done (at least for this year). Withdrawing from Wimbledon send a clear messsage.

So who will beat Novak in UsOpen? One would think Medvedev/Titspas/Zverev/Thiem would have a chance. Except:
  • Med's in a funk. Lost tamely in Wimb and then in Olympics. His serve has ceased to be a weapon that it was before. Now he's basically a pusher who has a good backhand.
  • Titspas is PATHETIC. After French Open he seems to have lost it mentally. His tennis is beyond abysmal right now. Not to mention his ROS sucks on hardcourts.
  • Thiem might NOT even play the UsOpen. Injured and out of form.
  • Zverev - headcase. Can't expect him to go all the way.
So who will actually stop Novak in the UsOpen? Please don't tell me it's Shapavalov or Matteo.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Novak was clearly physically spent. A fit Novak would have thrashed Zverev in straights.
This loss will make Novak SUPER DANGEROUS at the UsOpen.
He's now got the bogey off his back. Expect him to win UsOpen without losing many sets, perhaps not even a single set.
Djokovic being 34 might have something to do with it. Recovery time and endurance becomes more of an issue with age.
Plus Zverev has smashed him before in BO3. It's not that big of a surprise. Zed's peak level is enough to beat any of the big 3. He just lacks the mental fortitude and consistency a lot of the time.
 
Djokovic was destroying the competition in Tokyo on the way to the SF. Zverev played at peak level and Djokovic had no answers. It happens sometimes.
Yep Djokovic is human and he hit a wall today. Zverev surprised him with his peak play especially in set 2 and 3 and djoko just couldn’t halt the Zverev train at that stage. Djoko did not expect Zverev to fight back the way he did but like you say that’s sport.

I always felt Zverev is a tough matchup for djoko when he’s on. Novak and Rafa will both no doubt be worried about him for the us open. As when the Germans on he can blow anyone off the court. The problem for Zverev is consistency and doing it for 7 best of 5 matches. He’s getting closer though.
 
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