Tokyo Olympics SF: [1] Novak Djokovic vs. [4] Alexander Zverev

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mike danny

Bionic Poster
It has little to do with clutch when most of the time his opponent in the final is better than him. The only losses in big finals that he should have won were against Zverev and Tsitsipas, and the last one is very debatable.
He can't be called clutch with only a masters and a vultured slam at 28.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
People talk as if the match is over when Zverev is still making inroads in all of Djokovic’s service games.
It's never over in a Bo3 but that really means nothing. Especially when he's missing shots like the 0-15 one.

I guess I'm just not seeing this 'great' Zverev I'm reading about in this thread.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
This has nothing to do witch clutch. His best surface by far is the same as the most dominant player ever on a court type. That is the reason for his lack of big titles.
Sure, but Nadal wasn't unbeatable, Thiem was just not good enough. His 2017 and 2018 performances were a disgrace.

What about his other missed opportunities that weren't against the most dominant player on a surface?
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
It's amazing how a next gen has one or two competitive games and we have egg fans saying unironically that Djokovic will be lucky to win :laughing:
The only thing I'd be nervous about is the Bo3 format being conducive to upsets but I'm not seeing anything indicating much reason to worry.

Cheap misses by the Giraffe on every half big point.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
It's not AO now. It's a different tournament. Why are you talking back when you very well know the advantage for a big server when he is a break up.
Because I remember the AO where it didn't matter thst Zverev was a break up. In 3 different sets too.
 

guga_fan

Semi-Pro
Sure, but Nadal wasn't unbeatable, Thiem was just not good enough. His 2017 and 2018 performances were a disgrace.
You can say that all you want, but the amount of sets losts by Nadal at the French in those years is much more telling.
Clutch is mostly relevant when players are of the same caliber or evenly matched. This is not the case.
 

Checkmate

Hall of Fame
The only thing I'd be nervous about is the Bo3 format being conducive to upsets but I'm not seeing anything indicating much reason to worry.

Cheap misses by the Giraffe on every half big point.
He doesn't want to run. He is petrified by that particular aspect. That's why he is throwing errors at the first opportunity.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Because I remember the AO where it didn't matter thst Zverev was a break up. In 3 different sets too.
That's an isolated occurance. Still doesn't change that being a break up is a great advantage and gives you control of the set.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
You can say that all you want, but the amount of sets losts by Nadal at the French in those years is much more telling.
Clutch is mostly relevant when players are of the same caliber or evenly matched. This is not the case.
Nadal didn't have anyone to push him physically. He finally did this year and surprise, surprise, he lost.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
As soon as I saw Zverev S&V on that break point I knew it won't be good. Novak will take it
 

guga_fan

Semi-Pro
Nadal didn't have anyone to push him physically. He finally did this year and surprise, surprise, he lost.
Surprise, an ATG and worst Nadal matchup on tour was needed for that. That with an older Nadal who was already showing signs of struggle in the clay season.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Surprise, an ATG and worst Nadal matchup on tour was needed for that. That with an older Nadal who was already showing signs of struggle in the clay season.
This Nadal would have stormed to the RG title like in previous years.

The fact that a 34 year old Djokovic outlasted him physically doesn't say good things about Thiem.
 
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