Told You Guys Federer's Weakest Shot is His Forehand Under Pressure

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lordmanji

Guest
i posted a few months ago that Federer's weakest shot was his forehand under pressure, whether it be a running forehand or one where he has to rush to get to, usually after being attacked on the backhand side. He's lost to Nalbandian, Canas and Nadal because they exploited this and finally, his performance against Djokovic last night proved it. his backhand was actually more consistent overall and his forehand, though it misfired everywhere, misfired more when he was under pressure on the forehand side.

time to eat crow, fellas :-?
 

Hooooon

Rookie
he hated the surface and missed a week of preparation with food poisoning, simple. you pat yourself on the back for no reason very impressively. the fact that he served like crap didn't mean anything?
 
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lordmanji

Guest
he hated the surface and missed a week of preparation with food poisoning, simple. you pat yourself on the back for no reason very impressively. the fact that he served like crap didn't mean anything?

are you kidding me? how many serves down the T did Federer hit? he didn't hit his aces because Djokovic READ his serve. quit making excuses that Federer wasn't playing well when Djokovic created that situation by getting everything back with interest - his serves, rally shots, everything.

where were those excuses in the first two rounds when he beat his opponents only dropping a handful of games? but now that he's lost, it HAS to be the stomach virus rather than being outplayed? cmon! Djokovic didnt let Federer play his dominant game because he took it to him, plain and simple. and did the stomach virus affect his serve and backhand? no! so it zeroed in on his forehand or something? cmon. the answer is virus or not, federer's forehand under pressure was the shot that let him down tonight.
 
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Hooooon

Rookie
federer's shots, like nadals, sat up on the surface. fe's slice didn't stay low and his topspin bh didn't penetrate at all. sure his forehand was off and ineffectice, but djoko could take huge rips at every ball that came to him. your ignorant 1-dimensional analysis is what it is.
 

1171

Rookie
Yeah, the semi-pro, go play against Mr. Federer, and then you can tell him " Your forehand sucks under pressure".

Such meaningless hubris !
 

2 Cent

Rookie
i never knew Federer's forehand under pressure was a liability. so, i am intrigued by this observation.
bravo.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Oh my god,another bunch of nternet tennis experts.Federer is human,he lost it's simple as that.The guy had a record 10 slam finals in a row,give him a break really.
 
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lordmanji

Guest
you guys keep making excuses but it boils down to this: did federer's forehand let him down or not?

and if you guys want to make your brains work a little more, ask yourself that question on each of his losses. i think you might find the answer surprising.
 

Hooooon

Rookie
you guys keep making excuses but it boils down to this: did federer's forehand let him down or not?

and if you guys want to make your brains work a little more, ask yourself that question on each of his losses. i think you might find the answer surprising.

why does it boil down to that? everything was off, mostly his explosiveness in his legs (he was tired/poorly prepared). also, djoko is 20 and constantly improving, he would have beaten fed each and every day in the last 2 weeks.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
I agree his forehand was crap, but hats off to Joker for consistently taking time away from him, and hitting corner after corner.

Joker placed his foot on Feds neck, and never let him up.
 

MariaS

Semi-Pro
When pressed on the illness, Federer replied, "Well, it’s the first time I’ve been ill before a Grand Slam. I would still rather have it before than during, that’s for sure. But maybe it did have (an effect). I definitely didn’t feel as quick as some other times.
Tennis Week

Surprised to see thread from Sosho deleted; must have hit a nerve.
 

In D Zone

Hall of Fame
i posted a few months ago that Federer's weakest shot was his forehand under pressure, whether it be a running forehand or one where he has to rush to get to, usually after being attacked on the backhand side. He's lost to Nalbandian, Canas and Nadal because they exploited this and finally, his performance against Djokovic last night proved it. his backhand was actually more consistent overall and his forehand, though it misfired everywhere, misfired more when he was under pressure on the forehand side.

time to eat crow, fellas :-?

WOW~ its so funny to see you jumped out and chimed on Federer's weakness. If his forehand is so weak how come Fed has won all these grand slams and has complied one the winnest record and winning streaks....

So what if Fed had a bad day or his forehand is not clicking? BIG DEAL!
Fed has the record to show and is already a fall of famer.

In sports there is this phenomenon called Match UP! There is always going to be someone who will and has your number.
 

In D Zone

Hall of Fame
How about how much help in coaching did Djokovic needed to beat Federer?

How much coach did Federer had to get him to #1?
 

Vermillion

Banned
it was still his backhand that gave it away. He couldn't hit a penetrating shot with it. He seemed content with just taking it on the rise and rolling it back over. It was sad to see that he couldn't do anything else with it.
 

MariaS

Semi-Pro
his legs were weak is what I said...and everyone could see that

he was pretty lethargic...sorta like Serena, Henin and Venus....eh?
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
^^ He wasn't "lethargic", when he was serving for the first set, and he sure as heck wasn't lethargic in that last set.

He got his rear end handed to him, and got out- played. Just get over it, he didn't lose, he was BEAT.
 

bluescreen

Hall of Fame
considering we're talking about federer, i wouldnt call any of his shots "weak." djokovic just played a good match.
 

Hooooon

Rookie
^^ He wasn't "lethargic", when he was serving for the first set, and he sure as heck wasn't lethargic in that last set.

He got his rear end handed to him, and got out- played. Just get over it, he didn't lose, he was BEAT.

yeah, he was hitting his groundies 5mph and serving 40% because he felt great
 
I'm getting really annoyed by these posts. Who do you think you are to say "I told you so"? Ugh... So his stroke may seem weak on several points, who cares. He's human. I'm getting tired by everyone suddenly saying, "Look at this, look at that!" and criticizing him now just because he lost a match. Geez.
 

Nadal_Freak

Banned
On faster surfaces, Federer's forehand is weak under pressure. On slower surfaces, Federer's backhand can be a weakness on loopy high shots. Most people don't seem to understand this and try to attack his backhand and fail. His backhand is more compact.
 
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lordmanji

Guest
On faster surfaces, Federer's forehand is weak under pressure. On slower surfaces, Federer's backhand can be a weakness on loopy high shots. Most people don't seem to understand this and try to attack his backhand and fail. His backhand is more compact.

i agree with you about fed's backhand. but i will disagree when it comes to his forehand. fast or slow, like at all those indoor court losses to Nalbandian and those slow court losses to Canas and clay to Nadal, Fed's forehand is his vulnerability. on a fast court, he doesnt have as much time to set up so he'll miss. on a slow court, he can't hit through his opponents so he'll press and then miss. this is relatively and generally speaking, of course. when and if his forehand is on, watch out!

also, id add that fed has been playing as if he's had a ton of pressure despite what he says in the past year like he plays at the FO against Nadal. and when that happens, his FH is the first to go. especially on the run, he doesn't seem to take that extra step to set up unlike Djokovic. his FH on the run looks so much like Agassi's where he hunches over with both feet.
 

jetlee2k

Banned
last few matches he played too cautiously. He did not hit it out freely like he used to. I thought the matche against James Blake he played horrible already.. Against Novak he pretty much choked. Imagine he was up a break in the first set and won the first set?? Novak would be finished in 3. Oh well.. may be this loss give him some thought concentrate on the french.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
On faster surfaces, Federer's forehand is weak under pressure. On slower surfaces, Federer's backhand can be a weakness on loopy high shots. Most people don't seem to understand this and try to attack his backhand and fail. His backhand is more compact.

when are you going to get a clue???
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
i was havin' a rather hum-drum day today (what with it being laundry day, and all) . . .

. . . and in comes lordmanji to give me a big ol' side-splitting laugh-a-thon.

ok lord, you win.

1. fed's forehand stinks under pressure.
2. you're a friggin' genius
3. and it's this kind of lucid insight which keeps me coming back to tw day after day.

you actually posted a thread in order that we "eat crow" and confirm what a stud you are?? we bask in the glow of your infinite wisdom (i.e. YOU ROCK!)
 
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lordmanji

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i was havin' a rather hum-drum day today (what with it being laundry day, and all) . . .

. . . and in comes lordmanji to give me a big ol' side-splitting laugh-a-thon.

ok lord, you win.

1. fed's forehand stinks under pressure.
2. you're a friggin' genius
3. and it's this kind of lucid insight which keeps me coming back to tw day after day.

you actually posted a thread in order that we "eat crow" and confirm what a stud you are?? we bask in the glow of your infinite wisdom (i.e. YOU ROCK!)

sarcasm is for the weak. i mean seriously, all you did was repeat what i said with a wink. wow, it takes real genius to do that! (see how easy that was?)
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
The problem fed had was that the joker has a better forehand than his+ a better backhand.It was obvious in the crosscourt rallys fed was being pushed around by the jokers forehand.

The joker is a better player than fed is right now+ if he improves much more he will own fed!!!
 

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
i posted a few months ago that Federer's weakest shot was his forehand under pressure, whether it be a running forehand or one where he has to rush to get to, usually after being attacked on the backhand side. He's lost to Nalbandian, Canas and Nadal because they exploited this and finally, his performance against Djokovic last night proved it. his backhand was actually more consistent overall and his forehand, though it misfired everywhere, misfired more when he was under pressure on the forehand side.

time to eat crow, fellas :-?

What, do you want a medal, or a tap on the back?
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
i posted a few months ago that Federer's weakest shot was his forehand under pressure, whether it be a running forehand or one where he has to rush to get to, usually after being attacked on the backhand side. He's lost to Nalbandian, Canas and Nadal because they exploited this and finally, his performance against Djokovic last night proved it. his backhand was actually more consistent overall and his forehand, though it misfired everywhere, misfired more when he was under pressure on the forehand side.

time to eat crow, fellas :-?

Nope, no crow here. :)

Fed lost because of his backhand. He didn't drive it. He sliced it, short. Again and again. This draws errors from players like Roddick, but not Djokovik. Djokovic used Fed's short slice BH to take away Fed's time. The match-up between Fed's backhand and Djokovic's backhand went totally Djokovic. Once Djokovic straightned out his own forehand in the first set, Fed didn't have the tools to win.
 
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