Tomas Berdych Press conference

batz

G.O.A.T.
$$$$$ tourney. crap. Berdych is Totally right, even if he's an ass.
there were no real matches yesterday.
an MPH wind rule is a good idea.

Were you saying this before the match? Thought not.

Murray haturz - DRY YOUR EYES.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Were you saying this before the match? Thought not.

Murray haturz - DRY YOUR EYES.

i said this after watching the stupid saturday matches.
anything wrong with that?

btw- if Murray had lost because of the wind and couldn't play like Berdych,
i might be glad, but i'll still say it was a crappy no tennis lucky winner match.
so your point is pretty much non existent.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
i said this after watching the stupid saturday matches.
anything wrong with that?

btw- if Murray had lost because of the wind and couldn't play like Berdych,
i might be glad, but i'll still say it was a crappy no tennis lucky winner match.
so your point is pretty much non existent.

Yep - you're only crying a river because Murray won. Dry your eyes.

I don't recall the same 'match should never have been played' rubbish after Nadal creamed Murray in the 09 IW final that was played in conditions much worse than yesterday (60 mph gusts).

The guy you wanted to win lost. The guy you hate won. You are spitting your dummy out and throwing the toys out of your cot because of this. Don't try and dress it up as some sort of crusade to make the game more watchable - you're crying like an 8 year old girl whose lost her dolly because Murray won. Simples.
 
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Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Yep - you're only crying a river because Murray won. Dry your eyes.

you pretty good at highlighting the unrelevant text, aren't you? :p
if you would bother to really understand the rest you'll feel a bit ashamed at yourself. but you prefer not to.. your problem.
 

ark_28

Legend
Yep - you're only crying a river because Murray won. Dry your eyes.

Fair play to Murray Batz and congrats to you! He handled the conditions better so deserved the win! My personal view is still that the match should not have been played in those conditions it's robbing the fans a chance to see world class tennis when chairs were blown on court that's when you have to question if this should be happening in my opinion.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Fair play to Murray Batz and congrats to you! He handled the conditions better so deserved the win! My personal view is still that the match should not have been played in those conditions it's robbing the fans a chance to see world class tennis when chairs were blown on court that's when you have to question if this should be happening in my opinion.

it sadly appears that batz doesn't care a about the tennis level and enjoyment of the game.. i'm truly surprised :(
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Fair play to Murray Batz and congrats to you! He handled the conditions better so deserved the win! My personal view is still that the match should not have been played in those conditions it's robbing the fans a chance to see world class tennis when chairs were blown on court that's when you have to question if this should be happening in my opinion.

Thanks Ark. Many factors can stop fans seeing 'world class tennis' on a given day. Played outdoors, tennis is a game where the player must adapt to the conditions to win - the ability to do so is as important as forehands and backhands.

Were you saying the same thing as you are now when Rafa creamed Murray in the 09 IW final with winds much stronger than yesterday? If you were then fair play to you mate, but if you weren't then why not?
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
it sadly appears that batz doesn't care a about the tennis level and enjoyment of the game.. i'm truly surprised :(

LOL Like I said - all your concerns only seemed to appear when Murray won. If you were posting that the match shouldn't be played before it started, or when Berdych was winning the first set - your position might have some credibility - were you posting this at those times?

Thought not. DRY YOUR EYES.
 

ark_28

Legend
Thanks Ark. Many factors can stop fans seeing 'world class tennis' on a given day. Played outdoors, tennis is a game where the player must adapt to the conditions to win - the ability to do so is as important as forehands and backhands.

Were you saying the same thing as you are now when Rafa creamed Murray in the 09 IW final with winds much stronger than yesterday? If you were then fair play to you mate, but if you weren't then why not?

You are welcome mate :)

I agree with you about elements being a factor and there is no way you will have perfect conditions every match but when it being played under that kind of wind I feel like it spoils the event for spectators! I did indeed feel the same about 2009 IW final!

Not questioning the result etc because just don't know if it was handled the best way in terms of the schedule etc!
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
Because Rafa should always school Murray, that's why. The 'top 3' (too lazy) never lose matches unless they are tired, injured or don't care. Clearly in that scenario Rafa cared and it showed. Wind or no wind. Totally different circumstances in Tokyo of course.

I think all this Murray hate just proves that people are ****ting their pants.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
You are welcome mate :)

I agree with you about elements being a factor and there is no way you will have perfect conditions every match but when it being played under that kind of wind I feel like it spoils the event for spectators! I did indeed feel the same about 2009 IW final!

Not questioning the result etc because just don't know if it was handled the best way in terms of the schedule etc!

Fair enough mate - but I can assure you there was no 'what about the spectacle' type posts on here at that time. I guess it's just coincidence that those crying the most about it are some of the biggest Murray haturz on the board.

Agree 100% Noel and Daveed should have played on Armstrong or both matches should have been postponed until today - there was no need to give one half of the draw an advantage.

That said - Murray was on the other side in 2008 and I don't recall too many tears being shed for him having to play 3 days in a row. What goes around comes around I guess.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Because Rafa should always school Murray, that's why. The 'top 3' (too lazy) never lose matches unless they are tired, injured or don't care. Clearly in that scenario Rafa cared and it showed. Wind or no wind. Totally different circumstances in Tokyo of course.

I think all this Murray hate just proves that people are ****ting their pants.

We have a winner. They are lining the excuses up in the event of 1-4 happening. Can you imagine how the orcs would react? And that'd be before I post my "Is Murray the dominant player of 2012 so far despite the rankings" thread :)
 

ark_28

Legend
Fair enough mate - but I can assure you there was no 'what about the spectacle' type posts on here at that time. I guess it's just coincidence that those crying the most about it are some of the biggest Murray haturz on the board.

Agree 100% Noel and Daveed should have played on Armstrong or both matches should have been postponed until today - there was no need to give one half of the draw an advantage.

That said - Murray was on the other side in 2008 and I don't recall too many tears being shed for him having to play 3 days in a row. What goes around comes around I guess.

No doubt Murray had the rough end in 2008 he deserves a bit of a break! I personally don't think assuming Novak does turn this around that back to back matches will work against him too much as he hasnt spent much time on court so would just come down to who is better on the day!
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
LOL Like I said - all your concerns only seemed to appear when Murray won. If you were posting that the match shouldn't be played before it started, or when Berdych was winning the first set - your position might have some credibility - were you posting this at those times?

Thought not. DRY YOUR EYES.

you really don't get it do you??
i sat down to watch a match. saw no tennis, chairs flying. saw another match set with similar quality. crappy tennis level at crazy wind.
so after this useless show i'm just stating the facts (as everyone else here also says).
try holding you blind happiness for Murray for once.
who cares about the winner with those conditions? are you for real??

let's say for your point that Murray plays Novak in the final with some kind of similar crazy weather, ok?
this time Murray just plays crap and tanks the final.
no, I WON'T enjoy watching this, in fact i might even not watch at all.
yes, i prefer Novak, but WHO CARES??

that's why you really disappoint me now. i thought you were a deeper fan than that. hope i'm proven wrong.

and stop with the "dry your eyes" please... it's really annoying.. thanks :)
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
We have a winner. They are lining the excuses up in the event of 1-4 happening. Can you imagine how the orcs would react? And that'd be before I post my "Is Murray the dominant player of 2012 so far despite the rankings" thread :)

I really hope it happens. I think he showing some sort of determination this year and just refuses to lose. He could've easily lost to Lopez, that was one tight match, but he got through that, despite maybe not being able to play at 100%. That's a quality. I sure hope he saved his best Tennis for the final.

Can't wait for your thread. ;)
 

Hood_Man

G.O.A.T.
If it wasn't so windy Murray would have played differently. He's a totally different player on grass and indoors than he is on clay or in extreme outdoor conditions such as yesterdays.

He adapted.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
you really don't get it do you??
i sat down to watch a match. saw no tennis, chairs flying. saw another match set with similar quality. crappy tennis level at crazy wind.
so after this useless show i'm just stating the facts (as everyone else here also says).
try holding you blind happiness for Murray for once.
who cares about the winner with those conditions? are you for real??

let's say for your point that Murray plays Novak in the final with some kind of similar crazy weather, ok?
this time Murray just plays crap and tanks the final.
no, I WON'T enjoy watching this, in fact i might even not watch at all.
yes, i prefer Novak, but WHO CARES??

that's why you really disappoint me now. i thought you were a deeper fan than that. hope i'm proven wrong.

and stop with the "dry your eyes" please... it's really annoying.. thanks :)

Dry your eyes mate.
 

tank_job

Banned
Not only would Berdych have beat Murray if conditions were normal for a tennis match, but he would have done it for the loss of not a single point.

He really is a class above the dour pusher.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Yep - just like the last time they played on hard courts this year. Oh wait.

Just like during the quiet spells wind-wise. Murray is not a different player than he was a week or a month or 6 months ago. He still needs a little help from above and (gladly for his increasingly condescending followers) he is getting it this time around.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Not only would Berdych have beat Murray if conditions were normal for a tennis match, but he would have done it for the loss of not a single point.

He really is a class above the dour pusher.

Dry your eyes mate - Novak will likely beat Daveed today and will rightly start favourite tomorrow. It's OK to stop crying.

what do i care? ^^^^^^ look above, you're just a minority anyway.
why don't you reply to all Murray bashers? please leave me alone. there's no intelligent dialog with you, sorry.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Because Rafa should always school Murray, that's why. The 'top 3' (too lazy) never lose matches unless they are tired, injured or don't care. Clearly in that scenario Rafa cared and it showed. Wind or no wind. Totally different circumstances in Tokyo of course.

I think all this Murray hate just proves that people are ****ting their pants.

Or maybe people thought that the tennis on display (with the exception of very few quiet spells when the tennis players showed very high quality tennis) was below par for a Grand Slam semifinal. The participation of a perpetually swearing Murray does not sway that opinion. His ticket into the final was booked with skill and perseverence and nobody (serious) is denying that.

Let's try be a little objective and give the finger-waggling a rest for a minute. Never seen a H2H trophy on display so Murray is going to need a little more work before you can go on your 'Our boy did it he will go on to become the greatest ever' extravaganza.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
what do i care? ^^^^^^ look above, you're just a minority anyway.
why don't you reply to all Murray bashers? please leave me alone. there's no intelligent dialog with you, sorry.

For your eyes.

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batz

G.O.A.T.
Or maybe people thought that the tennis on display (with the exception of very few quiet spells when the tennis players showed very high quality tennis) was below par for a Grand Slam semifinal. The participation of a perpetually swearing Murray does not sway that opinion. His ticket into the final was booked with skill and perseverence and nobody (serious) is denying that.

Let's try be a little objective and give the finger-waggling a rest for a minute. Never seen a H2H trophy on display so Murray is going to need a little more work before you can go on your 'Our boy did it he will go on to become the greatest ever' extravaganza.

You don't think that the first bolded statement is an example of the second bolded statement that you are objecting to and that you might be being just a tad hypoctrical there Russ?
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
You don't think that the first bolded statement is an example of the second bolded statement that you are objecting to and that you might be being just a tad hypoctrical there Russ?

I plead guilty as charged but stand by my previous observations.
 

Andreas1965

Rookie
I can easily understand Berdych. I hate playing under windy conditions more than anything, heavy wind completely destroys my game.
I believe that the retrievers of this tennis world have a big advantage over aggressive players, when the wind blows away every shot aimed to the corners. And in addition, it is almost impossible to set up for a shot, if all the incoming balls are wobbling in random directions. Pushers do not have these problems, they just shovel the ball back and do not care where it lands on the other side.

That's why I can't wait til indoor-season starts.

A max-MPH - rule should be installed. If the wind blows too heavy, just cancel the match.
 
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Even Murray had some problems adjusting to the absurd conditions, that explains the first set. For a spell of about 10 minutes in the fourth set the wind had died down a little to a level where it was just ridiculous and not hurricane like. Berdych won like 4 games in that timeframe, 3 of them consecutive.

The conditions were unsuitable for tennis, no match should've taken place in this type of weather. Call the day off, have them play in the already forecasted bright and calm Sunday and give everybody a fair and level playing field to compete in the semifinals of a grand slam tournament.

The rules in tennis are so sketchy it's unbelievable and we're playing this sport for centuries now at competitive level.
 

Hawkeye7

Professional
Or maybe people thought that the tennis on display (with the exception of very few quiet spells when the tennis players showed very high quality tennis) was below par for a Grand Slam semifinal. The participation of a perpetually swearing Murray does not sway that opinion. His ticket into the final was booked with skill and perseverence and nobody (serious) is denying that.

Let's try be a little objective and give the finger-waggling a rest for a minute. Never seen a H2H trophy on display so Murray is going to need a little more work before you can go on your 'Our boy did it he will go on to become the greatest ever' extravaganza.

When did I say he is the greatest ever? I'm simply replying to those who deny he's a great player.
 
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Apun94

Hall of Fame
 

Q.  How tough were the wind conditions today?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, it was one part of opponent, so it was a really tough one.

 

Q.  How did it affect your serve?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, it affects a lot because I have a higher toss.  You know, then when I'm not able to serve, you know, and go for the first serve and not making some points, straight points from the serve, then, you know, that's not my game.  So actually, it was quite hard to adjust to that, because I'm normally not used to that.  You know, it was really, really tough one.  Yeah, it just happened.  He dealed with that much better than I did.

 

Q.  The show must go on, but do you think in this sort of condition the match should be not played, or, I mean, it's impossible because semifinal of a slam, US Open.  What do you think?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Yeah, I think that our sport deserved to have some rule or if the conditions are like that that, you know, you don't play because of the rain.  We play in Grand Slam in such a big tournament like this one, and especially missing the roof, it's something which should be at least to think about.  You know, as you said, I mean, we are here in States where they really love show.  Actually, this is not about show.  This is just about somehow to try to deal with the conditions and then trying to put ball over the net.  Sometimes was even impossible, but that's how it is.

 

Q.  The 62 unforced errors, did the wind contribute to that?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, probably did.  Well, probably I made like 62 in all the matches before I get to the semifinals, so I don't see any reason that my game would just crash in that part, you know.  So it was something what, you know, really affect my game.  But that's how it is, you know.



Q.  You seemed to make a little bit of an adjustment coming into the net a bit more and found your rhythm.  Do you think you went away from that late?  Should you have continued to push forward a little more?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Yeah, probably I should little bit more, because, you know, when you push your opponent and coming often to the net, I mean, it's really hard to play passing shot in this kind of weather condition, you know.  But also, on the other hand, is also tough, you know, not to make that much mistakes and be aggressive just enough, you know.  And then of course it's become that I made more mistakes than I normally does.  Yeah, it was something what I want to try to do differently.  Actually, I made it a pretty good chance with that.  You know, I was quite close in the tiebreak.  Unfortunately didn't make it, you know, so who knows?  Probably we should still be there and playing the fifth set.

 

Q.  You just stepped off court; tough loss.  But months from now, will you look back at the US Open this year as an opportunity lost, or will you look at it as a great run with the victory over Federer?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  I mean, of course right now it's sad.  Of course I don't like to lose the match, and not the match like this in the semis which I thought that I had a pretty good chance.  But, you know, I would say that the best word I can say is that the wind blow it away from me.  Yeah, probably in couple of days I can see it positively that I made the semis, played a great match against Roger, and just go forward.

 

Q.  You mentioned that you don't think this match should have been played given the conditions.  Was there any conversation with officials about perhaps not playing this match today?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  No.

 

Q.  No?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Nobody cares.

 

Q.  How do you think that Andy handled things?  You earlier referenced him handling the conditions a little bit better than you did.  Do you feel that was throughout?  Did he adjust a little bit better, you think?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Yeah, I think he is the one actually ‑‑ well, there is not a player who likes these conditions, but there are some players that, you know, these kind of conditions can suit to their game a bit better than the other ones.  That's the difference, you know.  Well, yeah, Andy was better in this part definitely, and that's why he actually took the win.

 

Q.  The reason why all the Czech and Slovak players always have these huge stars.  You cannot change, you cannot adjust ‑ of course not at the last minute ‑ the Australian player that used the wind, they were always having a low toss.  You all have a very huge, long toss.  There is no way that you can do something about it when you have conditions like this?  I know it's difficult to improvise, but...

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, I don't think so.  You know, that's something what you are doing since you are a kid.

 

Q.  Yeah, but why all of you?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  I don't know.  That's the Czech school probably.  I don't know.  If you look for the Spanish guys, they like to play more Spain more rallies.  Cannot ask why, just you.  Probably just kind of a part of the game that it belongs to us, and that's it.  Well, the good thing is that this kind of weather is not quite often, which is at least good.  Well, maybe that's the thing that I can try to improve for the next time.

 

Q.  The US Open is over; the Davis Cup is almost beginning.  When will you arrive to Buenos Aires?  What do you think about the series against Argentina?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, as I take my time and, you know, do all my stuff what I need to do here, then I will take a plane and go to Argentina.  So that's about my way.  And what I think, I mean, we play semifinal of Davis Cup.  We play with extremely tough opponent.  We play in Argentina, which makes the tie even harder, tougher.  So, you know, we coming again for to play on clay, which gonna be, you know, something what's probably not ‑‑ or most of us doesn't like ‑‑ but that's how it is, you know.  So try to deal with that, try to prepare for it, and actually on Friday gonna be there.

 

Q.  Was there a part of you today that hopes that it keeps raining, that maybe you have to play tomorrow or there might be no wind?

TOMAS BERDYCH:  Well, I mean, as I saw the rain in the morning, then, you know, I was like, Why should we come here even for 11:00 when they are expecting the rain, and then we have to wait here until later on?  Then, you know, coming actually really early, because then if you have to be ready for 11:00 match, then you have to come here like around 8:00, 8:15, which is quite early.  But, yeah, that's how it is.  I mean, actually, I'm not a big fan of the schedule like this, so I was hoping that probably maybe the rain is going to stay and then maybe tomorrow the conditions could be different.  But this is just if, if.  Was like that, and that's how it is.

                  

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Well, tbfh, what berd said was all spot on. I mean, he was honest about the fact that the wind was the main factor in the match. It messed his game more than Murray's simply bcz berd has a high risk game n a huge toss. He NEEDS good conditions. Murray is more defensive n has more variety thus can adapt better. Plus berd also acknowledged Murrays better form. Berd can be a dick sometimes but he was pretty spot on here.
 
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tistrapukcipeht

Professional
Well, tbfh, what berd said was all spot on. I mean, he was honest about the fact that the wind was the main factor in the match. It messed his game more than Murray's simply bcz berd has a high risk game n a huge toss. He NEEDS good conditions. Murray is more defensive n has more variety thus can adapt better. Plus berd also acknowledged Murrays better form. Berd can be a dick sometimes but he was pretty spot on here.

Exactly, Murray is a grinder, like Novak, Nadal and Ferrer, rarely go for shots close to the lines, all of them rely on defending instead of trying to take the matter on their own hands, most here arguing don't even play tennis, they don't even know how hard it is for a a guy that has a game with precision and power to play in those conditions and have to adjust to keep the ball in.

Murray has an all court game, Berdych doesn't, Berdych's game is about taking the initiative and hitting the opponents off the court, gust of 30 mph wind is a clearly unsettling disadvantage to Berdych, hence Murray had an advantage, as the wind stopped Berdych of being precise and hitting winners and taking control with his powerful shots as the wind changes the path of his balls and cause loss in mph.

That simple.
 

Breaker

Legend
Thanks Ark. Many factors can stop fans seeing 'world class tennis' on a given day. Played outdoors, tennis is a game where the player must adapt to the conditions to win - the ability to do so is as important as forehands and backhands.

Were you saying the same thing as you are now when Rafa creamed Murray in the 09 IW final with winds much stronger than yesterday? If you were then fair play to you mate, but if you weren't then why not?

No..not even close, it was barely tennis they were playing out there yesterday.
 

netlets

Professional
I'm not sure but my opinion is that it was an inexplicably awful performance from Berdych. I just can't believe it's the same player who crushed Federer just a couple of nights ago!

Murray hardly had to do anything. Berdych is just handing it to him. The big question is...why??

Again, I note it's a day match and Berdych has struggled in all of his day matches. The night ones have been his best by far. But this one has descended into levels of awfulness that beggar belief!

I can only guess that either there was something physically wrong with Tomas or he didn't want to progress any further at the USO for some weird reason!

Very disappointing

My God, do you know it was so windy it wasn't even tennis. Do you have any idea how hard it is to hit winners when the ball moves 3 feet and to the side before you hit it? That's why the quality was so poor from both sides. The wind robbed the fans of high quality tennis from both sides.
 
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