Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by leoresende2007, Jun 19, 2010.
Anybody know if Bernard Tomic is really using the Head Youtek Radical MP
Yes. He has not been with a single racket for a while, used a K90, Head Extreme Pro's and now the radical, has the teflon grommets
Which string does he use?
And isn´t his racket a paintjob?
He uses a regular Youtek, on strings, not to sure, does not look like a hybrig though.
What is his string?
Regular as in uncustomized? Or we just talking pj?
He uses a stock radical but will be weighted to his liking.
And which string does he use?
See the photo. Why he is using this butt cap instead of Youtek's? Is this a paintjob?
There is a chance of a paint job, there's always a chance. However, it could be that he just liked that butt cap, or more likely, that was the one his customizer put on when he had his rackets done. It is most likely actually a YouTek however, due to the teflon grommets...
No, That is the "Pro Stock" butt cap.
What is the teflon grommets? Does it come in retail?
So, is this the same as retail or a paintjob?
from what i've heard he uses a stock head radical with added weight under the bumper and grip
Teflon Grommets are the white strips running along the fram that the strings go through. All YouTek rackets come with them stock...
Why his racket don't have head wrote on the bumper guard like retail?
Why doesn't his racket have HEAD written ...You need to take English classes buddy, You are killing our language
Head contracted players do not use retail rackets.Head has their old molds that get a paint job for whatever its retailed.Remember that that Kid will be a big star in tennis in a couple of years and Head will push whatever product (in this case a racket)they think needs sales with the relative paint job for it.
First of all, that poster was obviously foreign, so cut them some slack. It's not like every American has an amazing vocabulary/ability to put together a decently constructed sentence. Second of all, in this case, he is using a stock racket that has been modified weight wise to suit his needs...
Didn't you see the smile face?
BTW He is foreigner and not foreign.
You can say foreign languages,foreign currencies ...
Oh lord, run everyone, the grammar ****'s are here...
Tomic does indeed use the new YouTek Radical MP. Oh and HEAD is written on his bumper guard.
I'm sorry man, I wasn't serious.
everybody makes grammar mistakes.
Are we cool now?
Haha, yeah, it's cool. I was just joking around. Good to see that unlike a lot of people here, you can take a joke...
Is his racket flex the same as retail?
Someone has told me that Tomic actually uses a TGK231.1 or .2
Is this source accurate?
I believe it is TGK260.2.
I thought Tomic had an 18x20
Ah. Thanks for the clear up VS. Just a quick question since I'm fairly new to understanding the whole Pro Stock Head frame thing.
What are the current Pro Stock frames that have 18x20 patterns? For the Rad is it the TGK 231.1 and .2? What about the Prestiges?
So it appears that Tomic uses a longer tgk 260.2 and Berdych uses the same but at 27 inches? Any idea on how he sets his up? I have one of these at 27.5 which I've taken all the lead off and got down to 323 strung with about even balance. When it came it had four strips of lead on either side under the bumper, heavy! Strung with banger mains, vs gut crosses and plays great, flexes nicely through the ball! Thinking I'll put some more lead back on the head?
For people wondering about his string........it looks like a gut/alu hybrid
Ahm...not at all!
Some do, no Prestige does...
Current = youtek?
Prestige: TGK238.4 (MP); TGK237.3 (Mid 18x20)
Radical: TGK260.1 (MP)
231.x is the Microgel mold that is different for Radical from the YT.
The Prestige mold is the same as with the MG (238.x) and comes from the PT630 mold.
The head guard seems glued onto the frame rather than part of the grommet on the extreme version of the teflon grommet. Is it so?
Nope, I have the same racket(s) and it is just like the teflon grommets a part of the set.
Though, impossible to find the replacement for it...
It's actually gut and RPM.
Nice that he is playing standard racquet, not that Wilson's and Head's (h22 and pro ****...) secret weapons for stars. You can win with any stick
He still is playing with 'pro ****'. As said by vsbabolat, it's a TGK 260.2, a pro stock version of the Radical MP that has a 16 x 19 string pattern.
Youtek radical seem to agree with him. blew away Soderling
Very interesting the Tomic uses a 16x19 string pattern,
Makes sense when I consider the great variety and all-court nature of his game. He's far from being an all-power-all-the-time baseline basher.
And I imagine the 16x19 is a significant factor in those beautiful slice BHs of his.
When did he use a K90?
Also used the FXP Prestige pj.
Go to post 11 in this thread to see him with an N90:
Call me crazy but isn't the ALU in the crosses in that picture, not the mains?
The picture below...
this is the one i mean
Does anyone know how long his 260.2 is? I hear it might be very XL ie - perhaps 27 3/4 or 28?
This would explain the easy power he is able to generate from that slappy forehand of his?
The one that I have is 27.5 and came strung with gut mains at 360 odd strung total weight. It had four strips of lead on either side under the bumper. That's a lot of lead!
I took the some of the lead out and it has very little pop, wondering if his might be pretty heavy like this also to hit it the way he does?
I have a TGK 260.2 too. This racquet can feel very weird to a lot of users who play retail racquets. With strung weight over 350g and a little head heavy, the TGK 260.2 is very flexible and become stiffer in hoop. This frame plays very similar to the old Berdych's Dunlop AG200 frame. It takes some time to get used to.
When it first arrived, it is 27" long and was strung with gut in main and alu in cross. I don't like the feel of this set up, and changed it to cheaper poly and synthetic. Then it started to shine. Like other pro stock frames, power is hidden inside a smaller sweetspot but when hitting properly it's more powerful than any other racquet. On the downside, the frame is a bit unstable in stock form but lead tape at 3/9 simply fixed the issue.
Little unstable in an understatement, I hit with that racket next to retail yt radical mp 18*20 and retail yt looked like mother of all stability next to flimsy 260.2.
Sweet spot is really small too in comparison to stock radical. something about 16*19 pattern probably.
All in all stock yt radical felt like a better racket...
Those are very interesting observations dgoran and suppawat. That's exactly what I have noticed, flexy throat but stiffer in the head. Seems to equate to a small but great sweetspot. I have a couple of Tommy Haas Dunlops that seem to be similar, the Kristof Vliegen Tecnifibres I had were the same as was the Sricaphan Yonex? I believe Verdasco's racquet is similar.
I can only assume that as these guys ballstriking is so good, they hit the sweetspot more often than not because when you don't, the ball goes no-where! The feel is also quite harsh, I think that is the instability you refer to?
My recent experimentation with these sorts of racquets has led me to conclude that if you are going to use these types of racquets, best results seem to come from 350 gram plus overall weights, more like 360 really, with plenty of lead on the head to improve the stability. With the extra weight in the head, the throat starts to flex even more and the racquet starts to feel less harsh on off centre hits, which are inevitable against a heavy ball?
G, there is nothing 'stock' about your racquets, don't forget that
And I do agree. 260.2 was my biggest disappointment in pro-stock frames world. What a weird racquet that was.
So its not just me then, the 260.2 is a different racquet. I was pretty excited about it and when I got it, at 27.5 covered in lead, it played pretty well. But without the lead (not a couple of strips, more like four on each side) it struggles big time for pop and stability?
I was hoping it would play a bit like a bigger prestige mid, sort of a halfway house between the 238.2 and the 237.2 but it just doesn't feel as stable and solid without a lot of weight..
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