TOMMY HAAS WINS 10th CAREER CHAMPIONS SERIES TITLE IN ORLANDO

joe sch

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TOMMY HAAS WINS 10th CAREER CHAMPIONS SERIES TITLE IN ORLANDO


To advance to the final, Haas defeated Andy Roddick 6-2 while Ginepri defeated former Vince Spadea 6-4.

Haas has been playing at a very high level.
Last year, Haas, the former world No. 2, finished with a perfect 10-0 record to win the year-long points championship.
 
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joe sch

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Champions Series tennis began in 2005 and has featured 16 former world No. 1 players including many of the greatest legends in the sport such as Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg, Ivan Lendl, Stefan Edberg and Jim Courier.

Interesting that older Mac has played many more years than Sampras, Edberg and Courier.
I would love to see Stephan still playing some of these events, I believe he stays in great playing condition as does Mac.
 
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GINEPRI CLOSES OUT CHAMPIONS SERIES TENNIS SEASON AS HE STARTED IT – WITH A WIN​
ORLANDO – Robby Ginepri closed out the 2020 Champions Series Tennis season just as began it – with a tournament victory. The 2005 U.S. Open semifinalist defeated Tommy Haas 6-4 in the one-set championship match at the Bea For Kids Champions Challenge presented by Raymond James at the Heathrow Country Club, the final event for 2020 on the North American tennis circuit for champion tennis players over the age of 30.​
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
what's the cut off play these, 40 years or older? Fed should signup for this tour in place of his usual practice and just thrash everyone and own every record on the Champions Tour.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
what's the cut off play these, 40 years or older? Fed should signup for this tour in place of his usual practice and just thrash everyone and own every record on the Champions Tour.
Roddick is already playing them so not 40.
 

joe sch

Legend
what's the cut off play these, 40 years or older? Fed should signup for this tour in place of his usual practice and just thrash everyone and own every record on the Champions Tour.
If those records were really that desirable then Sampras would be playing. I dont think Fed, Djok, nor Nadal are going to be playing senior events when they finally retire.
 

aliceinpains

New User
Have no interest in watching Haas play. These tournaments need to attract the slam winners like Chang, Courier, Agassi, Muster, etc.
 
A big Factor is health. Tennis is just not good for your joints and many older players are really banged up and don't want to ruin their health even more by playing through the pain with painkillers.
 

atatu

Legend
Honestly Haas is just a year older than Ivo and the latter is still winning matches on the ATP tour which is much more impressive to me, Robbie is only like 38, he should be embarrassed.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Do you think talent/performance gaps diminish as players get older? Like Courier isn't going to be as far above Ginepri as he was during the peak of their ATP days - simply because it's harder to maintain a higher level.
 
Do you think talent/performance gaps diminish as players get older? Like Courier isn't going to be as far above Ginepri as he was during the peak of their ATP days - simply because it's harder to maintain a higher level.
I don't think so. However as you get older the effort level varies drastically so training and fitness (and health which is huge at that age) can trump talent.

In the pro level talent prevails because everyone trains hard. But at the senior level some take it very seriously while others only hit a couple hours a week or even less.

If novak djokovic would only train 4 hours a week he would lose against random top100 players who train 30 hours a week.

Also at the senior level players don't always play very hard if they know they are better. That is why you see andy roddick wining only 7-6,6-4 against a geezer like McEnroe occasionally, no fan wants to see a bagle and breadstick destruction at the senior level. You are not giving matches away but if you are totally better you ease off a little on your return games and let the old geezer win some games.

Those fans watching that want to see tennis but also some fun,trick shots and verbal shots at the opponent, it is more of an exo.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i think it should be so you have to win a GS title or something to play on the champions series..
i know id rather see two legends play even if the tennis is worse
 
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