Toni Nadal explains why the Australian Open crowd boos Djokovic

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That is why, according to the former coach and uncle of Rafa Nadal , there are two reasons that would explain these criticisms. On the one hand, he understands that the public was irritated after having paid a fortune to see that match. But, on the other, Toni also understands that this is not the first time that the Serbian could have exaggerated his discomfort. " Another question is that we ask ourselves, once the facts have been given, the reason for that protest that was unleashed in the stands. Firstly, I understand that the public showed their disappointment and anger at being deprived of the expected spectacle after having paid an entrance fee for it. But the second reason, and probably the most important, is that, over the years, a certain mistrust has been fostered around Novak, due to his grimaces or histrionics, which has sown doubts about the veracity of his injuries" , he wrote in El País .

In this way, Toni tries to understand the reaction of a public that felt cheated for not having seen even a single sign that led them to think about Djokovic's retirement. On many occasions we have seen the Serbian express even the slightest pain through his body language. " When a player faces physical problems in a match of this nature, he normally waits until the end to decide to retire. He calls the physiotherapist, plays a few games impaired and, only when he sees the inevitable fate, does he decide to retire. On more than one occasion we have seen Novak with similar performances, with facial gestures and body language that contradict what we are seeing on the court and that sow certain doubts about the authenticity of his problems," said Toni.

 
There's a pattern with Novak where he starts losing, seemingly with physical problems. Then the opponent loses concentration and lowers his own level. Then Novak switches up a couple of gears and wins the match.

We've seen it many many times before. I don't know if it's gamesmanship or legitimate, but it does make one think :unsure:

tldr: such novak, very possum, wow.
 
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Transparency is important, and Nadal has been the most transparent with injuries, going into great detail always.
Djokovic has been the most shady and Sinner was also shady during this AO about his unknown sickness...
 
Toni also understands that this is not the first time that the Serbian could have exaggerated his discomfort.
coming from the nadal clan...
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... you just can't make this up! :-D
 
And it's not even that this thread is posted by a Nadal fanatic and uncle Toni talking like this, but the statements are absolutely braindead. He got injured in the Alcaraz match, he already knew the scan results going into the Zverev match, so why should he postpone the retirement when he already knew there was nothing to be done and his hamstring was getting worse and worse? Just to gain sympathy points from the spectators when he already had made his decision?

The Nadal camp are absolute horrendous people. The bitterness and disdain steaming from these comments every other month by them is off the charts. At some point I hope Djokovic fires back cause this is ridiculous.
 
And it's not even that this thread is posted by a Nadal fanatic and uncle Toni talking like this, but the statements are absolutely braindead. He got injured in the Alcaraz match, he already knew the scan results going into the Zverev match, so why should he postpone the retirement when he already knew there was nothing to be done and his hamstring was getting worse and worse? Just to gain sympathy points from the spectators when he already had made his decision?

The Nadal camp are absolute horrendous people. The bitterness and disdain steaming from these comments every other month by them is off the charts. At some point I hope Djokovic fires back cause this is ridiculous.
So why did Djokovic play the 1st Set if he already knew the scan result?
Hang on a minute, so they were booing him because they don’t trust that he was injured - even when he decided to retire with the injury? Did they think he was just faking it to get some more beach time?

Imo I’d understand booing him more after… ahem… AO 15 (I have no personal bias here, oh no sir) when it was clear that he made the whole thing up and could actually play fine
The booed him probably because they thought he quit without it being a serious injury, because he didn't look injured in the 1st Set and he didn't call for a trainer...
 
There's a pattern with Novak where he starts losing, seemingly with physical problems. Then the opponent loses concentracion and lowers his own level. Then Novak switches up a couple of gears and wins the match.

We've seen it many many times before. I don't know if it's gamesmanship or legitimate, but it does make one think :unsure:

tldr: such novak, very possum, wow.
*much wow
 
Hang on a minute, so they were booing him because they don’t trust that he was injured - even when he decided to retire with the injury? Did they think he was just faking it to get some more beach time?

Imo I’d understand booing him more after… ahem… AO 15 (I have no personal bias here, oh no sir) when it was clear that he made the whole thing up and could actually play fine
 
I will say though, it is funny to watch Djoker fans get annoyed about this when they themselves accused Nadal of fabricating his 2021 and 2022 injuries that caused him to miss multiple big tournaments in the calendar and tank his form. He clearly just wanted to suck on purpose and take lots of time off
 
There's a pattern with Novak where he starts losing, seemingly with physical problems. Then the opponent loses concentracion and lowers his own level. Then Novak switches up a couple of gears and wins the match.

We've seen it many many times before. I don't know if it's gamesmanship or legitimate, but it does make one think :unsure:

tldr: such novak, very possum, wow.
But Rafa was the original master of this discipline
 
And it's not even that this thread is posted by a Nadal fanatic and uncle Toni talking like this, but the statements are absolutely braindead. He got injured in the Alcaraz match, he already knew the scan results going into the Zverev match, so why should he postpone the retirement when he already knew there was nothing to be done and his hamstring was getting worse and worse? Just to gain sympathy points from the spectators when he already had made his decision?

The Nadal camp are absolute horrendous people. The bitterness and disdain steaming from these comments every other month by them is off the charts. At some point I hope Djokovic fires back cause this is ridiculous.

You realize this has nothing to do with his point? He's not saying Djokovic did anything wrong in this instance but that due to his long checkered history he has lost the benefit of the doubt. Do you think he's wrong? He's not saying he agrees with it but that it's the explanation for the heavy booing.

Why get so upset about it?
 
Look, Djokovic may have a reputation for seeming to play possum on many occasions but he has never retired from a Slam match at least since he became a multiple Slam champion (I know he did this on occasion prior to 2011). This was a first and surely indicates that he didn't think his leg injury would hold up to allow him to play out the match on a competitive level. To me it's sure proof that the injury was genuine and of genuine concern to him.
 
Look, Djokovic may have a reputation for seeming to play possum on many occasions but he has never retired from a Slam match at least since he became a multiple Slam champion (I know he did this on occasion prior to 2011). This was a first and surely indicates that he didn't think his leg injury would hold up to allow him to play out the match on a competitive level. To me it's sure proof that the injury was genuine and of genuine concern to him.

I don't think anyone doubts that the injury was genuine. The question is why the crowd was suspicious of him and booed him?
 
Nadal served 80mph 1st serves to win that 3rd Set, because Wawrinka went psycho and lost all concentration...
Nadal wasn't even trying to win, and he literally skipped all his pre-serve rituals!
That's why its a good idea to watch the match instead of believing fake memes :rolleyes:

If he hadn't been trying to win why the tears at the presentation?
 
Look, Djokovic may have a reputation for seeming to play possum on many occasions but he has never retired from a Slam match at least since he became a multiple Slam champion (I know he did this on occasion prior to 2011). This was a first and surely indicates that he didn't think his leg injury would hold up to allow him to play out the match on a competitive level. To me it's sure proof that the injury was genuine and of genuine concern to him.
2017 Berdych
2019 Wawrinka
 

Going back a decade - first hit on google. And even a decade ago, people were posting that it was something he did often. So this time he had a real injury. Many times it seems he had not. Don't blame the spectators if they don't believe your spiel anymore. Tony is 100% right, and there is no amount of records Djok can get that will undo his behavior.
 
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That is why, according to the former coach and uncle of Rafa Nadal , there are two reasons that would explain these criticisms. On the one hand, he understands that the public was irritated after having paid a fortune to see that match. But, on the other, Toni also understands that this is not the first time that the Serbian could have exaggerated his discomfort. " Another question is that we ask ourselves, once the facts have been given, the reason for that protest that was unleashed in the stands. Firstly, I understand that the public showed their disappointment and anger at being deprived of the expected spectacle after having paid an entrance fee for it. But the second reason, and probably the most important, is that, over the years, a certain mistrust has been fostered around Novak, due to his grimaces or histrionics, which has sown doubts about the veracity of his injuries" , he wrote in El País .

In this way, Toni tries to understand the reaction of a public that felt cheated for not having seen even a single sign that led them to think about Djokovic's retirement. On many occasions we have seen the Serbian express even the slightest pain through his body language. " When a player faces physical problems in a match of this nature, he normally waits until the end to decide to retire. He calls the physiotherapist, plays a few games impaired and, only when he sees the inevitable fate, does he decide to retire. On more than one occasion we have seen Novak with similar performances, with facial gestures and body language that contradict what we are seeing on the court and that sow certain doubts about the authenticity of his problems," said Toni.

FACTS from Toni Nadal.
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If he hadn't been trying to win why the tears at the presentation?
If you watched Nadal's expression in that 3rd Set, and the way he'd gave up his pre-serve rituals, you'd know he was devastated because he knew he couldn't win.
He'd given up because it was physically impossible to win with back spasms, and he was devastated in the 3rd Set and trophy presentation :cry:
He did serve faster in the 4th Set though, because the painkillers kicked in, and that probably gave him some hope...
 
Hang on a minute, so they were booing him because they don’t trust that he was injured - even when he decided to retire with the injury? Did they think he was just faking it to get some more beach time?

Imo I’d understand booing him more after… ahem… AO 15 (I have no personal bias here, oh no sir) when it was clear that he made the whole thing up and could actually play fine

AO 15 is just one chapter in the book. Lots of issues for Djokovic down under, as well as everywhere. I mean the guy has been booed in every tourney outside of Belgrade for a reason.
 
I don't think anyone doubts that the injury was genuine. The question is why the crowd was suspicious of him and booed him?
Because the crowd doesn't know **** about ****. Nobody should be concerned about what the crowd did and why they acted that way. Totally classless
 
Because the crowd doesn't know **** about ****. Nobody should be concerned about what the crowd did and why they acted that way. Totally classless

It seems to be a major topic of conversation, even Djokovic responded to it by sharing his MRI.
 
But Rafa was the original master of this discipline
Nadal generally lost the matches he was “injured” in (or withdrew from them / withdrew from the next one right after). Hence the discussions about “peak hypothetical uninjured healthy bull” who would have won 30 slams or something if he hadn’t had those pesky injuries because he absolutely 10000% would have won those matches otherwise

With Djokovic on the other hand, we have “peak hypothetical injured Egg” who could get injuries but then recover enough to play The Good Tennis, and win not only matches but entire tournaments in which he had sustained injuries, normally by blasting the crap out of the ball, using Painkillers and Things Modern Science Doesn’t Know. Of course there have been more exceptions as he has got older such as USO 19, this injury at RG 24 and now here at AO 25

It seems to be a major topic of conversation, even Djokovic responded to it by sharing his MRI.
Why didn’t he do that with the 2021 one :unsure:
 
The fact that he retired without having any visible signs of injury in that match, without taking a MTO to have a trainer help him and so abruptly at the end of the set is very atypical compared to almost all other retirements that you see in pro tennis. Even watching on TV, I was shocked when he retired and a bit peeved that he didn’t take a MTO, get some treatment and try to play. After a few minutes, I told myself that I don’t know how much pain he is feeling and felt like giving him the benefit of the doubt. But in the heat of the moment after having paid a lot for the ticket and maybe imbibing a few drinks, I can see why some fans booed the atypical retirement and the timing of it.
 
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what I like is.. djokovic is damned if he takes an MTO & damned if he doesn’t at this point lol.. he put it all on himself tho
 
You can agree or disagree with the injury faking claim. But many, many people do agree with it and you can easily see by the reactions on basically every platform every time it happens.

Like or dislike these words they tell what a significant amount of fans think.
 
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