Toni Nadal reacts to Federer's victory

[Deleted member 733170]

Anyone know the bookies odds that Nadal will match or surpass Fed’s GS tally at this juncture?

Remember not so long ago Novak was evens to do it.

My guess is Rafa is 30% to match and 18% to surpass Fed. If he doesn’t win the French this year I think we can say it’s all but over for him.

 

[RF-18]

All of them are obsessed with records. I can guarantee you that Djokovic was obsessed with the FO. So much, that he got tense in the finals.

That's another thing.

Issue here is that I don't believe the reason Nadal is still going out on court to compete, train hard JUST to capture Federer. That is not the sole reason he is playing this sport right now.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

That's another thing.

Issue here is that I don't believe the reason Nadal is still going out on court to compete, train hard JUST to capture Federer. That is not the sole reason he is playing this sport right now.

It is not the SOLE reason, you are correct, but don't kid yourself into thinking it is not one of the primary reasons either. These guys are too driven to be the best, on the court and in the history books, and they will fight with everything they have while they still can, so there are no what ifs left.

 

[Ralph]

It is not the SOLE reason, you are correct, but don't kid yourself into thinking it is not one of the primary reasons either. These guys are too driven to be the best, on the court and in the history books, and they will fight with everything they have while they still can, so there are no what ifs left.

Which is another reason why I'd take a bet that Federer is weighing up Dubai right now, and questioning whether it's worth a risk to his plans further down the line for Wimbledon. Weeks at no.1, and oldest no.1 etc. will always pale in significance to slam count. 5 ahead of his nearest rival is better than 4, though I'd say he's safe regardless right now.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Which is another reason why I'd take a bet that Federer is weighing up Dubai right now, and questioning whether it's worth a risk to his plans further down the line for Wimbledon. Weeks at no.1, and oldest no.1 etc. will always pale in significance to slam count. 5 ahead of his nearest rival is better than 4, though I'd say he's safe regardless right now.

He will be, that is for sure. His year revolves around Wimbledon and I think he knows, if he wins that, regards of whether Nadal wins RG this year or not, the race is effectively over. I simply cannot see Nadal getting 22 slams from this point on.

 

[nikdom]

Which is another reason why I'd take a bet that Federer is weighing up Dubai right now, and questioning whether it's worth a risk to his plans further down the line for Wimbledon. Weeks at no.1, and oldest no.1 etc. will always pale in significance to slam count. 5 ahead of his nearest rival is better than 4, though I'd say he's safe regardless right now.

Yeah, he's a long term thinker. Not just now, even back in 07-08, he was planning with a long term view of his career - whether it be endorsements, engaging in social media or adopting new strategies (racquet, stat based analysis)

Plenty of opportunity in '08 to win points and get to No.1 so being greedy now is not a wise strategy especially with a risk of injury to his back.

 

[tennis_pro]

Toni knows that time is running out for Nadal, that's why he mad, bro.

 

[merlinpinpin]

I'm curious as to how Nadal is going to perform in slam matches that go the distance.

In the past, Rafa was nearly unbeatable in 5-setters. I remember at one time, Rafa was 15-3 in 5 setters. He has let a few slip away lately, maybe because of nerves. I didn't expect Federer or Muller to take the 5th set off of him. I saw the match where Fognini came back from 2 sets down to win in 5. Nadal is maybe winning half of his 5-set matches since the days when he shut everybody down in the 5th set.

My guess is that his 4 slam deficit to Federer and his age will make it tougher winning the 5th set of major from this point on. And I'm not even counting the 5th set loss to Cilic, even though that technically counts.

Bolded: it's actually much worse than that. Since 2012, he's 4-8 in five-setters (ie won 4, lost 8 of the last 12), and he's actually lost 6 of the last 8, so it's getting worse and worse (compare with Federer who has *won* 6 of his last 7; Fed may end up with the better 5-set win/loss % when all is said and done, which is crazy considering the huge lead Nadal had in this category up to 2011 (2012 definitely was the turning point, and for both of them, too-Federer started getting much better results in five-setters at this stage, while Nadal's % went south fast).

Federer up to 2011: 18-16
From 2012 on: 10-5

Nadal up to 2011: 15-3
From 2012 on: 4-8

Talk about a huge change for both of them! The mighty warrior has been on the other side of the net for half a dozen years, now (and their H2H is also reflecting that).

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Toni knows that time is running out for Nadal, that's why he mad, bro.

People have been saying that for years.
Nadal is an absolute machine he’s not done yet.

 

[tennisaddict]

Nadal is the victim of what Federer was a victim of his entire career, when he chased down Sampras record. It's not an easy burden to carry.

When Fed won 11 slams in 4 years it was a matter of ‘when’ and not ‘whether’ he would cross Pete which he did and he is outside of Pete’s shadow for last 9 years

Contrast that with Rafa who is meandering slowly toward Fed only to see Fed inch away further and further .

The way they have chased the goals are completely different trajectory

 

[Mainad]

"Tio, Roger's now on 20 and I'm still on 16. What can we do?"

"Dammit, I'm going to have to come back on tour with you. I knew you and Moya would **** it up!"

 

[nikdom]

People have been saying that for years.
Nadal is an absolute machine he’s not done yet.

Is that a compliment?

 

[Deleted member 77403]

When Fed won 11 slams in 4 years it was a matter of ‘when’ and not ‘whether’ he would cross Pete which he did and he is outside of Pete’s shadow for last 9 years

Contrast that with Rafa who is meandering slowly toward Fed only to see Fed inch away further and further .

The way they have chased the goals are completely different trajectory

I remember there being a bit of doubt creeping in when he went from winning 11 slams in 4 years, to winning just 1 slam out of 5 slams played. He was almost stopped right in his tracks. He managed to power through after that, but I remember reading in the papers and the internet that Federer may have just missed his chance by a whisker.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

"Tio, Roger's now on 20 and I'm still on 16. What can we do?"

"Dammit, I'm going to have to come back on tour with you. I kew you and Moya would **** it up!"

"I told you to sweep the leg..."

 

[octobrina10]

Uncle Toni is always on Fedfans' mind. ( I read only the title of the thread.)

 

[DRII]

beautiful words from Tio Toni that of course were misinterpreted by resident phants...

 

[Krish872007]

Was this an English or Spanish interview? Toni's phrasing sounds incredible and unbelievably poetic.

 

[Goosehead]

Bolded: it's actually much worse than that. Since 2012, he's 4-8 in five-setters (ie won 4, lost 8 of the last 12), and he's actually lost 6 of the last 8, so it's getting worse and worse (compare with Federer who has *won* 6 of his last 7; Fed may end up with the better 5-set win/loss % when all is said and done, which is crazy considering the huge lead Nadal had in this category up to 2011 (2012 definitely was the turning point, and for both of them, too-Federer started getting much better resultst in five-setters at this stage, while Nadal's % went south).

Federer up to 2011: 18-16
From 2012 on: 10-5

Nadal up to 2011: 15-3
From 2012 on: 4-8

Talk about a huge change for both of them! The mighty warrior has been on the other side of the net for half a dozen years, now (and their H2H is also reflecting that).

interesting numbers. amazing really.

Federer moved to a more attacking style of tennis and changed his wand.

nadal stuck to mainly attrition grinding tennis, tinkered with a new wand but went back to old trusty..(and won 2 majors to be fair).

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Is that a compliment?

It was intended to be.

 

[TennisFan3]

Because he knew deep inside Federer was going to win and he could now do nothing about it.

One could make a convincing argument that had Nadal beaten Cillic , he would have lost to Federer in the final .

Nadal was not playing well, in general, at the AO. And I think Rafa probably knew in his heart that he was not good enough to win the AO.

 

[beltsman]

Bull doesn't show any concern like all these posters do, because he knows he'll get 21+ slams pretty easily. At least 3 more RGs, plus a few more randoms. One AO, one more USO, and maybe even a Wimbledon with a decent draw. Fed won't be adding any more. He barely made it through a depleted AO with a joke draw!

 

[smoledman]

Bull doesn't show any concern like all these posters do, because he knows he'll get 21+ slams 0retty easily. At least 3 more RGs, plus a few more randoms. One AO, one more USO, and maybe even a Wimbledon with a decent draw. Fed won't be adding anymore.

This is super clown level posting, congrats.

 

[sbengte]

Cilic added to the ever growing list of dangerous players on HC. Need to do one better for USO, make things less complicated for the nephew.

Definitely agree with Tio's remarks about colorful tennis. AO speeding up and tennis becoming serve-oriented again is bad for the game and not what the audience wants to see as evidenced by how much they hate Fed who plays fast paced tennis now.

Can't show your passion, intensity and creativity if the point is over in a few shots. Bring back 5 hours matches and 40 stroke rallies by whatever means neccesarry, raise the net if you have to or even allow just one serve.

I was on the phone with Toni. He said he had managed to buy over the AO draws ...almost but this Cilic somehow slipped through via a genuine miscommunication.

When the deal was cut, they asked 'Is Marin OK ?' Toni misheard as 'Murray' and OK'ed it as he was sure Murray wouldn't play.

 

[Backspin1183]

So what do you think? Nadal should retire right now to prove that he is not chasing Federer? Ofcourse he is chasing Federer and ofcourse Federer is trying to run further away with his slam wins. Both are trying to win more slams and that's what they are supposed to do. What's the fuss about?

It makes some fans dislike Rafa strongly for chasing their Lord Federer's Slam record. It was Novak who got the hate more from the Fedr fanatics, now it's Rafa again after winning two Slams last year. As long as the Fedr fanatics hate on Rafa, it's a good thing for Nadal and fans. It means he is doing great.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Federer should hire Tio Toni to bring a WWE type feel to the game.

@MichaelNadal

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Bull doesn't show any concern like all these posters do, because he knows he'll get 21+ slams pretty easily. At least 3 more RGs, plus a few more randoms. One AO, one more USO, and maybe even a Wimbledon with a decent draw. Fed won't be adding any more. He barely made it through a depleted AO with a joke draw!

"Barely made it."

Didn't he lose only two sets to a very worthy opponent en route to the title?

 

[justasport]

Tio is an idiot. Rafa probably wouldn't appreciate his uncle talking to the press like this. Anyways, the chase for the slam count is more then likely over.

 

[SinjinCooper]

"Barely made it."

Didn't he lose only two sets to a very worthy opponent en route to the title?

Yes, but Nadal made it all the way to the quarters!

 

[yokied]

It makes some fans dislike Rafa strongly for chasing their Lord Federer's Slam record. It was Novak who got the hate more from the Fedr fanatics, now it's Rafa again after winning two Slams last year. As long as the Fedr fanatics hate on Rafa, it's a good thing for Nadal and fans. It means he is doing great.

I was about to post about this. Nadal is of lesser relevance these days because he doesn't realistically threaten Fed 2.0 or the slam legacy. I think a lot of the Fed fan angst here directed at Nadal is partly the residual of their previous rivalry that ended years ago, partly because he's technically the closest to threatening, but mainly because they need someone to worry about, however unlikely. Djokovic is gone and Murray, Stan, next gen and lost gen aren't offering much of a threat either.

I dislike Rafa for all the oft-cited reasons like his playing style, grunting, "service routine", time violations, on court coaching and MTOs. These are all behaviours established over 15 years ago, which is another part of his problem, and although my dislike of them has faded with his relevance to Fed, the behaviours themselves haven't.

 

[Virginia]

Along with the behaviours mentioned above, Nadal always seems to play his hardest, even against weaker players, whereas Federer plays at a level just enough to win. He doesn't put his body through the mill each and every time, saving tons of energy as a result.

 

[CHillTennis]

This is interesting - although you can never be sure what's been lost in translation. However, assuming that's accurate last year Toni was saying that Nadal would overhaul the titles if he was injury free, now he seems slightly concerned that Nadal won't want to. To be honest, this is my feeling as well but not following him closely I've been doubting my instincts.

Definitely. It's easy to understand why Toni would be a bit skeptical of Rafa's chances.

The gap between them isn't shrinking and Nadal is no threat at Wimbledon or seemingly the Australian Open.

As long as Federer is healthy, it's going to be all that he can do to stay with him.

 

[MichaelNadal]

It's the first confirmation that I have seen that Nadal is determined to break Federer ' s slam record.

The next few years will be very interesting indeed...

Why is everyone grasping onto this? Nadal and Toni are 2 different people. it's clear TONI wants the record. Nadal has said a million times he takes the good with the bad and never expected to be as succesful as he is. Of course he wants to be the best, (everyone that picks up a racquet and goes pro should) but not in the way Toni is putting it.

 

[Rosstour]

Now, Nadal is a special player, no doubt, but he is also a lot more injury prone and looks a lot more beat up than Federer to me. He is about to turn 32, his game is still brutally violent, and it is taking a toll. As I stated, after US 2013, Nadal for me left his prime at AO 2014...

Interestingly enough, AO14 was the last time Rafa beat Fed, anywhere.

Amazing...The H2H really matters to a lot of people, but Rafa hasn't gotten a victory in four full years and counting.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

Not a Nadal fan but I do admire the fight attitude that Toni is talking about here. It's obvious they want the slam record , lol at thinking otherwise. He still has a chance but it is slim. Hed have to win 2 slams again this year and not have Federer win another. That might get the odds back to 50 50. But the odds off that happening are like 1 in 4. So like 1 in 8 odds at best at this point.

If he is willing to fight to the end he might have a better chance because he does have the age advantage and may be able to vulture RG for another 2, 3 years. Well see.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

Why is everyone grasping onto this? Nadal and Toni are 2 different people. it's clear TONI wants the record. Nadal has said a million times he takes the good with the bad and never expected to be as succesful as he is. Of course he wants to be the best, (everyone that picks up a racquet and goes pro should) but not in the way Toni is putting it.

Nadal wants it bro I like it thought I want him to fight to the death for it. That's what I like most about Nadal...his intensity.

 

[Appels]

Nadal wants it bro I like it thought I want him to fight to the death for it. That's what I like most about Nadal...his intensity.

Exactly. Why is it a bad thing if Nadal wants it badly?

 

[MichaelNadal]

Exactly. Why is it a bad thing if Nadal wants it badly?

If you were only 4 slams behind the record and 31 years old, who wouldn't want it?
What im saying is for TONI it seems to be an obsession, and if Nadal is obsessed with anything, it's being healthy and competitive first. The only thing bad is people in this thread making it seem like Nadal walks around 24/7 worried about the slam record and we all know that's bollocks.

 

[The_Order]

Well so much for saying the Nadal family are not focused on the slam count.

I have to admit, it is a fun story. One is doing everything to hold the record, the other is doing everything to take it away. I do feel this AO hurt Nadal's chances really badly.

They needed the win, or at worst, needed Federer to lose, so the slam count remains the same. Federer making the gap the same as it was after US 2013, means Nadal has lost four and half years of his career and made zero inroads from that point to this point in time. It is hard to catch someone, when they are winning slams at a faster rate than you. Federer has three of the last five, Nadal has won two of the last five. Nadal's body since USO 2013 has taken a beating, he skipped two slams, pulled out in one before the third round, and had to retire injured in another. Nadal's also got an issue in the sense that Federer is going very strong at Wimbledon too, and just like last year, his RG win could be cancelled out one month later.

RG has become almost a must win for Nadal now, we know historically Nadal plays bad everywhere when he is not the RG champion. And how often you think such a draw like USO 17 will fall into his lap? If Federer wins another slam, then it truly is game over...I simply cannot see a player who has won three slams in the last four and half years, much closer to his prime years, winning another six from this point on...remember he needs five to break the record as it is, but with Federer soaring at Wimbledon, I think the real target will need to be 22 at least.

Fed has won 3 of the last 5 as you have pointed out. Before 2017 though, he won 1 in 6 years much closer to his prime years.

Now you might bring up Nadal's game being harsher on him making it hard for him to maintain his level etc. But people were saying this when he was 21.

I also don't see Roger winning anymore majors. 1 more max imo.

As it stands Nadal needs 5 more. If he plays for another 4 years after this one, he could get 3 at RG, leaving 2 more others elsewhere. I don't think he'll end up with 21 but it isn't out of the realm of possibility yet given I don't see any young clay guns apart from maybe Thiem but even he is going to struggle big time v Rafa at RG.

Whatever Nadal ends up with though, I'm happy, he has been my fav since 2004 when I watched him live v Hewitt at the AO. If someone told me he'd end up with 16 majors I'd have certainly taken that.

 

[Fedforever]

If you were only 4 slams behind the record and 31 years old, who wouldn't want it?
What im saying is for TONI it seems to be an obsession, and if Nadal is obsessed with anything, it's being healthy and competitive first. The only thing bad is people in this thread making it seem like Nadal walks around 24/7 worried about the slam record and we all know that's bollocks.

Yes. The tone and the actual words in this interview make that clear. Of course Nadal would love to have the record, who wouldn't? But Toni wouldn't be talking like this if he didn't secretly fear that Rafa was less invested in it than he thinks he should be.

 

[mandy01]

Yes. The tone and the actual words in this interview make that clear. Of course Nadal would love to have the record, who wouldn't? But Toni wouldn't be talking like this if he didn't secretly fear that Rafa was less invested in it than he thinks he should be.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal wants it just as bad and has been wanting it for quite sometime. Imagine what happens now, if Djokovic has a resurgence. I'm sure, if Novak is healthy he will ATLEAST want to chase down Nadal if not Federer. Makes it a three-way race.
Honestly, Roger looks the happiest of them all playing tennis. It's funny how a guy who should've been at home, chilling is actually loving the game more than the younger lot; Nadal and Djokovic included. He's definitely blessed.

 

[Yoneyama]

Toni is right though, if Nadal does not reinvent his game he may forever be stuck playing catch up and ending up injured... and ultimately losing against Fed in the GS tally. He may have a fairly cemented chance at getting RG year in year out if he is uninjured, but the other three slams, especially Wimbledon prove much harder for him to win than it does for Federer who can get the grass and HC slams with more ease than Nadal. US Open last year was a great performance by Nadal, but I think it is very obvious that the draw was weak - and the big players were injured - Fed (partly injured), Stan, Muz, Djoker, and this easily made him the favourite.

Nadal's injury count is so high because of his physicality and brutal game style. I think Nadal will end up retiring at a younger age than Federer does for this reason.

Nadal however is a man of superstition, habit, and automation. His mentality and game style will be monumentally more difficult to change than Federer's was.

 

[Mlenk]

Everyone is all acting here that changing one's game in the twilight of his career is such a flippantly easy thing to do. It's not. Nadal has always been a physical beast. Sadly that kind of tennis game doesn't promote longevity. It's a testament to Nadal's fighting spirit that he is still playing at 32 at such a high level playing his sort of game. Nadal doesn't have the pure tennis talent that Fed does to just suddenly change his playing style after decades of grinding. Nadal winning RG this year is almost a given, but if he can't win either Wimbledon or the USO, then it will be basically impossible for him to ever catch Federer in the slam count. Relying on just winning RG for the next 5 years to catch Fed is a losers proposition. He can keep winning RG for at least a few years, but his chances of winning non-clay slams is fading fast. If he can't do it this year then all chances are lost IMO.

 

[mandy01]

Everyone is all acting here that changing one's game in the twilight of his career is such a flippantly easy thing to do. It's not. Nadal has always been a physical beast. Sadly that kind of tennis game doesn't promote longevity. It's a testament to Nadal's fighting spirit that he is still playing at 32 at such a high level playing his sort of game. Nadal doesn't have the pure tennis talent that Fed does to just suddenly change his playing style after decades of grinding. Nadal winning RG this year is almost a given, but if he can't win either Wimbledon or the USO, then it will be basically impossible for him to ever catch Federer in the slam count. Relying on just winning RG for the next 5 years to catch Fed is a losers proposition. He can keep winning RG for at least a few years, but his chances of winning non-clay slams is fading fast. If he can't do it this year then all chances are lost IMO.

Nadal has had a pretty long career as is. He can pretty much keep up for another two years provided Novak et al don't see a resurrection

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Fed has won 3 of the last 5 as you have pointed out. Before 2017 though, he won 1 in 6 years much closer to his prime years.

Now you might bring up Nadal's game being harsher on him making it hard for him to maintain his level etc. But people were saying this when he was 21.

I also don't see Roger winning anymore majors. 1 more max imo.

As it stands Nadal needs 5 more. If he plays for another 4 years after this one, he could get 3 at RG, leaving 2 more others elsewhere. I don't think he'll end up with 21 but it isn't out of the realm of possibility yet given I don't see any young clay guns apart from maybe Thiem but even he is going to struggle big time v Rafa at RG.

Whatever Nadal ends up with though, I'm happy, he has been my fav since 2004 when I watched him live v Hewitt at the AO. If someone told me he'd end up with 16 majors I'd have certainly taken that.

I agree with all you say, but there is more of a chance that Federer wins one more, more than likely Wimbledon. I think 22 is a step too far for him personally. He will win more, but ultimately fall short. Federer gets a lot more cheap points on his serve that Nadal does not, he has to work harder.

 

[Marfrilau]

Fed has won 3 of the last 5 as you have pointed out. Before 2017 though, he won 1 in 6 years much closer to his prime years.

Now you might bring up Nadal's game being harsher on him making it hard for him to maintain his level etc. But people were saying this when he was 21.

I also don't see Roger winning anymore majors. 1 more max imo.

As it stands Nadal needs 5 more. If he plays for another 4 years after this one, he could get 3 at RG, leaving 2 more others elsewhere. I don't think he'll end up with 21 but it isn't out of the realm of possibility yet given I don't see any young clay guns apart from maybe Thiem but even he is going to struggle big time v Rafa at RG.

Whatever Nadal ends up with though, I'm happy, he has been my fav since 2004 when I watched him live v Hewitt at the AO. If someone told me he'd end up with 16 majors I'd have certainly taken that.

Since Nadal won his first major until this year he has averaged 1.23 majors per year. That means that he has to maintain the same average in his last 4 years. I just don't see that happening and it would be unprecedented in the sport. Getting 3 at RG would also be about the same average he's had since his first major there until this year.

 

[zagor]

It makes some fans dislike Rafa strongly for chasing their Lord Federer's Slam record. It was Novak who got the hate more from the Fedr fanatics, now it's Rafa again after winning two Slams last year. As long as the Fedr fanatics hate on Rafa, it's a good thing for Nadal and fans. It means he is doing great.

In the same vein as long as Nadal fanatics are whining abour the roof and night matches (which their hero gets in the same amount), making Fed retirements threads, taking digs at Fed's wife etc. it means Fed's doing fine himself.

Funny how now insinuating that Nadal is chasing Fed's slam count is considered "hating".

 

[Defcon]

Always the injuries excuse with the Nadal camp, no matter what.

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Always the injuries excuse with the Nadal camp, no matter what.

The injury excuses, are you serious? If Federer would have been injured as much as Nadal all Fed fans would be complaining all the time. Just look at the masters won by Zverev last year where Federer had back problems in the last 3 games and the gazellians said he lost because he was injured.

 

[zagor]

Everyone is all acting here that changing one's game in the twilight of his career is such a flippantly easy thing to do. It's not. Nadal has always been a physical beast. Sadly that kind of tennis game doesn't promote longevity. It's a testament to Nadal's fighting spirit that he is still playing at 32 at such a high level playing his sort of game. Nadal doesn't have the pure tennis talent that Fed does to just suddenly change his playing style after decades of grinding. Nadal winning RG this year is almost a given, but if he can't win either Wimbledon or the USO, then it will be basically impossible for him to ever catch Federer in the slam count. Relying on just winning RG for the next 5 years to catch Fed is a losers proposition. He can keep winning RG for at least a few years, but his chances of winning non-clay slams is fading fast. If he can't do it this year then all chances are lost IMO.

It's a testament to his athleticism first and foremost. The majority of players playing the way he does would have been done and dusted by now. Real life isn't a Holywood movie, no amount of fighting spirit is gonna help if your body is falling apart, or do you think guys like Hewitt, Guga and Delpo didn't/don't have fighting spirit?

Also Nadal's talent is quite underrated, his tennis and athletic gifts might translate better to this era of slower, high bouncing courts than it is the case for Fed given that he's the one who had to change the most, switch to a new racquet etc.

 

[Artreddy]

Fed right now..

No but really Toni almost always manages to crack me up. It kills me how much of a big stink is made about the AO speeding up, one freaking slam in contrast to the other 3 that remain slow or atleast Wimbledon/USO that have immensely slowed down. anyone who ever preaches about variety but then only gets upset about 1 particular surface/tournament that does not suit their own style of play is such a hypocrite imo. You would think every tournament was playing lightning fast when it is quite the opposite.

BRAVO! perfect picture, I can see Federer in her expression.