My comments in the "Different Mounting Systems" thread were maybe too close to home. I read the comic strip "Curtis" today in the paper which comes at my point from a different angle. Curtis and his little brother are staring into the window of an electronics store: C: You can play games on that cell phone, and with this one, you can take photos. C: .. this one can receive e-mails, has a 500-number memory, and makes BLUEBERRY WAFFLES ... (next panel the two brothers just stare at each other) Clb: Man!! Those phone companies are REALLY reaching! C: Of course! How else can they get to the bottom of your pockets! Anyway, I had to chuckle when I read that.