Top 10 best players of each generation (New Balls, Golden Gen, Lost Gen, Next Gen, Baby Gen) ? And how would you rank these generations ?

TsitsiBH

TsitsiBH

Rookie
I will mostly stick to achievements.

New Balls - 1980 to 1983 :
1 Federer (20 GS)
2 Hewitt (2 GS, 2 YEC)
3 Safin (2 GS)
4 Roddick (1 GS and 4 more finals)
5 Ferrero (1 GS)
6 Nalbandian (1 YEC, 2 Masters and 1 GS final)
7 Davydenko (1 YEC, 3 Masters)
8 Coria (2 Masters, 1 GS final)
9 Ferrer (1 Masters, 1 GS final, 1 YEC final)
10 Gonzalez (1 GS final)

Golden Gen - 1984 to 1988 :
1 Djokovic (24 GS)
2 Nadal (22 GS)
3 Murray (3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 Masters, 2 Olympics Golds)
4 Wawrinka (3 GS, 1 Masters)
5 Del Potro (1 GS, 1 Masters, 1 YEC final)
6 Cilic (1 GS, 1 Masters)
7 Tsonga (2 Masters, 1 GS final, 1 YEC final)
8 Soderling (1 Masters, 2 GS finals)
9 Berdych (1 Masters, 1 GS final)
10 Anderson (2 GS finals)

Lost Gen - 1989 to 1995 :
1 Thiem (1 GS)
2 Nishikori (1 GS final, 4 Masters finals, 2 YEC semis)
3 Raonic (1 GS final, 4 Masters finals, 1 YEC semi)
4 Dimitrov (1 YEC, 1 Masters)
5 Kyrgios (1 GS final)
6 Carreno-Busta (1 Masters, 2 GS semis)
7 Norrie (1 Masters, 1 GS semi)
8 Sock (1 Masters)
9 Goffin (1 YEC final)
10 Schwartzman (1 GS semi, 4 GS quarters)

Next Gen - 1996 to 1999 :
1 Medvedev (1 GS)
2 Zverev (2 YEC)
3 Tsitsipas (1 YEC)
4 Ruud (3 GS finals)
5 Hurkacz (2 Masters)
6 Berrettini (1 GS final)
7 Khachanov (1 Masters, 2 Slam QFs)
8 Rublev (1 Masters, 8 Slam QFs)
9 Fritz (1 Masters, 2 Slam QFs)
10 Coric (1 Masters, 1 Slam QF)

Baby Gen - 2000 to 2003 :
1 Alcaraz (2 GS)
2 Sinner (1 Masters, 1 GS semi)
3 Rune (1 Masters)
4 Auger-Aliassime (1 GS semi, 2 GS quarters)
5 Shelton (1 GS semi, 1 GS quarter)
6-10 Not enough memorable results

My ranking of those generations is :
1 Golden Gen
2 New Balls
3 Next Gen
4 Lost Gen
(Too early to rank Baby Gen)

I think the only debatable choice in my ranking is between Next Gen and Lost Gen. I admit it is pretty close.
 
TsitsiBH said:
I will mostly stick to achievements.

New Balls - 1980 to 1983 :
1 Federer (20 GS)
2 Hewitt (2 GS, 2 YEC)
3 Safin (2 GS)
4 Roddick (1 GS and 4 more finals)
5 Ferrero (1 GS)
6 Nalbandian (1 YEC, 2 Masters and 1 GS final)
7 Davydenko (1 YEC, 3 Masters)
8 Coria (2 Masters, 1 GS final)
9 Ferrer (1 Masters, 1 GS final, 1 YEC final)
10 Gonzalez (1 GS final)

Golden Gen - 1984 to 1988 :
1 Djokovic (24 GS)
2 Nadal (22 GS)
3 Murray (3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 Masters, 2 Olympics Golds)
4 Wawrinka (3 GS, 1 Masters)
5 Del Potro (1 GS, 1 Masters, 1 YEC final)
6 Cilic (1 GS, 1 Masters)
7 Tsonga (2 Masters, 1 GS final, 1 YEC final)
8 Soderling (1 Masters, 2 GS finals)
9 Berdych (1 Masters, 1 GS final)
10 Anderson (2 GS finals)

Lost Gen - 1989 to 1995 :
1 Thiem (1 GS)
2 Nishikori (1 GS final, 4 Masters finals, 2 YEC semis)
3 Raonic (1 GS final, 4 Masters finals, 1 YEC semi)
4 Dimitrov (1 YEC, 1 Masters)
5 Kyrgios (1 GS final)
6 Carreno-Busta (1 Masters, 2 GS semis)
7 Norrie (1 Masters, 1 GS semi)
8 Sock (1 Masters)
9 Goffin (1 YEC final)
10 Schwartzman (1 GS semi, 4 GS quarters)

Next Gen - 1996 to 1999 :
1 Medvedev (1 GS)
2 Zverev (2 YEC)
3 Tsitsipas (1 YEC)
4 Ruud (3 GS finals)
5 Hurkacz (2 Masters)
6 Berrettini (1 GS final)
7 Khachanov (1 Masters, 2 Slam QFs)
8 Rublev (1 Masters, 8 Slam QFs)
9 Fritz (1 Masters, 2 Slam QFs)
10 Coric (1 Masters, 1 Slam QF)

Baby Gen - 2000 to 2003 :
1 Alcaraz (2 GS)
2 Sinner (1 Masters, 1 GS semi)
3 Rune (1 Masters)
4 Auger-Aliassime (1 GS semi, 2 GS quarters)
5 Shelton (1 GS semi, 1 GS quarter)
6-10 Not enough memorable results

My ranking of those generations is :
1 Golden Gen
2 New Balls
3 Next Gen
4 Lost Gen
(Too early to rank Baby Gen)

I think the only debatable choice in my ranking is between Next Gen and Lost Gen. I admit it is pretty close.
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Good effort, good lists.
I would put Davydenko above Nalbandian.
 
Why do some people keep pushing this weird narrative, that Federer is separate gen than Djokovic and Nadal, i mean where does this even come from? Hadn't they been playing like for the vast majority of their respective careers against one another and even their primes overlapped at some point (at least as far as Fedal is concerned...), so why the heck create this fake artificial gen, that Federer supposedly belongs to? LOL This doesn't make any sense and there is only 2 years difference between Federer's first slam title at the Wimbledon and Rafa's first title at RG...Djoko had to wait for 2008 i get it as he started career as a pro a little later and unlike other two played challengers and futures as a teenager for longer period of time before playing his first official ATP event, but all-in-all they are pretty much the same gen...it's Federer, who played gen, that were on the crossroad between Djokodal era and Samprassi era, but Federer himself for the most part belongs to Djokodal gen...
 
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fed vs "his" generation:
fed vs hewit 18-9 27 matches
fed vs safin 10-2 12 matches
fed vs roddick 21-3 24 matches
fed vs ferrero 10-3 13 matches
fed vs nalbandian 11-8 19 matches
fed vs davydenko 19-2 21 matches
fed vs coria 3-0 3 matches
fed vs ferrer 17-0 17 matches
fed vs gonzalez 12-1 13 matches

fed vs noles generation:
fed vs nole 23-27 50 matches
fed vs rafa 16-24 40 matches
fed vs muzza 14-11 25 matches
fed vs wawa 23-3 26 matches
fed vs del potro 18-7 25 matches
fed vs cilic 10-1 11 matches
fed vs tsonga 12-6 18 matches
fed vs soderling 16-1 17 matches
fed vs berdych 20-6 26 matches

very interesting that fed played much more vs noles (238 matches) than his own generation (149 matches)!
 
GoatNo1 said:
fed vs "his" generation:
fed vs hewit 18-9 27 matches
fed vs safin 10-2 12 matches
fed vs roddick 21-3 24 matches
fed vs ferrero 10-3 13 matches
fed vs nalbandian 11-8 19 matches
fed vs davydenko 19-2 21 matches
fed vs coria 3-0 3 matches
fed vs ferrer 17-0 17 matches
fed vs gonzalez 12-1 13 matches

fed vs noles generation:
fed vs nole 23-27 50 matches
fed vs rafa 16-24 40 matches
fed vs muzza 14-11 25 matches
fed vs wawa 23-3 26 matches
fed vs del potro 18-7 25 matches
fed vs cilic 10-1 11 matches
fed vs tsonga 12-6 18 matches
fed vs soderling 16-1 17 matches
fed vs berdych 20-6 26 matches

very interesting that fed played much more vs noles (238 matches) than his own generation (149 matches)!
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Two things about this: Federer's extraordinary longevity and that his generation of rivals did not rise to the occasion.
8-B
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
Why do some people keep pushing this weird narrative, that Federer is separate gen than Djokovic and Nadal, i mean where does this even come from?
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Because Federer is of a separate generation. Nadal was consistently winning/making slam finals in 2005, so he overlapped with Federer. But peak/prime Djokovic was facing a past-prime Federer. Why did Nole face a past-prime Roger so often at the big tournaments? Look at the list of top players of the "golden" generation...and those of the lost generation.
 
DSH said:
Two things about this: Federer's extraordinary longevity and that his generation of rivals did not rise to the occasion.
8-B
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rafa and nole have the same longevity but have played more matches vs fed than vs anyone else in their own generation and generations after!
 
duaneeo said:
Because Federer is of a separate generation. Nadal was consistently winning/making slam finals in 2005, so he overlapped with Federer. But peak/prime Djokovic was facing a past-prime Federer. Why did Nole face a past-prime Roger so often at the big tournaments? Look at the list of top players of the "golden" generation...and those of the lost generation.
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Says the guy who thinks Evert and Navratilova are from different generations.
 
GoatNo1 said:
fed vs "his" generation:
fed vs hewit 18-9 27 matches
fed vs safin 10-2 12 matches
fed vs roddick 21-3 24 matches
fed vs ferrero 10-3 13 matches
fed vs nalbandian 11-8 19 matches
fed vs davydenko 19-2 21 matches
fed vs coria 3-0 3 matches
fed vs ferrer 17-0 17 matches
fed vs gonzalez 12-1 13 matches

fed vs noles generation:
fed vs nole 23-27 50 matches
fed vs rafa 16-24 40 matches
fed vs muzza 14-11 25 matches
fed vs wawa 23-3 26 matches
fed vs del potro 18-7 25 matches
fed vs cilic 10-1 11 matches
fed vs tsonga 12-6 18 matches
fed vs soderling 16-1 17 matches
fed vs berdych 20-6 26 matches

very interesting that fed played much more vs noles (238 matches) than his own generation (149 matches)!
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Djokovic's generation was more consistent had a better longevity. Not to mention Federer himself had a crazy longevity. He retired many more years later than his generational peers (except Ferrer to a lesser extent)
 
So, players born 89 and 95 are the same generation but players born 95 and 96 are not, and fed and nole are definitely not despite playing 50 times each other, sounds right.
 
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TsitsiBH said:
Djokovic Federer and Nadal fans are so boring jeez. Always making it about their players as if we don't already talk about them enough.
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By the way, what do you expect from Tsitsipas' backhand, is there any solution for that groundstroke?
:cautious:
 
1. 2003 "Big 3 Combined Generation" (30+ GS)
2. 1981-1986 "Peaked in their Mid to Late 30s But Forced Into Early Retirement Generation" (53 GS)
3. 1987-1989 "Peak at 35 Unless Your Name isn't Novak Generation" (29 GS)
4. 1990-2002 "Only if Djokovic is Banned from the Tournament Generation" (who cares)
5. 1970-1972 "Couldn't beat Fritz Nostalgia Generation" (31 GS)
 

best player for each generation:​

New Balls: No1e
Golden Gen: No1e
Lost Gen: No1e
Next Gen: No1e
Baby Gen: No1e​

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Djokodalerer31 said:
Why do some people keep pushing this weird narrative, that Federer is separate gen than Djokovic and Nadal, i mean where does this even come from? Hadn't they been playing like for the vast majority of their respective careers against one another and even their primes overlapped at some point (at least as far as Fedal is concerned...), so why the heck create this fake artificial gen, that Federer supposedly belongs too? LOL This doesn't make any sense and there is only 2 years difference between Federer's first slam title at the Wimbledon and Rafa's first title at RG...Djoko had to wait for 2008 i get it as he started career as a pro a little later and unlike other two played challengers and futures as a teenager for longer period of time before playing his first official ATP event, but all-in-all they are pretty much the same gen...it's Federer, who played gen, that were on the crossroad between Djokodal era and Samprassi era, but Federer himself for the most part belongs to Djokodal gen...
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I can see your point about Federer being in the same generation as Nadal and Djokovic. That’ll be like saying Connors and Lendl are of the same gen. Most consider them equals, yet Lendl beat Connors 17 times in a row and never lost to him from 1984 onwards. It only shows how the older AtTG is going to be disadvantaged after a certain point.
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
Why do some people keep pushing this weird narrative, that Federer is separate gen than Djokovic and Nadal, i mean where does this even come from?
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From the fact that that he's 5 and 6 years older.

His prime still overlapped with Nadal's because Nadal blossomed early, but not with Djokovic's. To consider Fedovic the same generation is insanity when Djoker didn't deal with 2004-2006 Fed and only started playing slam finals with him consistently when Fed was almost 33.
 
mike danny said:
From the fact that that he's 5 and 6 years older.

His prime still overlapped with Nadal's because Nadal blossomed early, but not with Djokovic's. To consider Fedovic the same generation is insanity when Djoker didn't deal with 2004-2006 Fed and only started playing slam finals with him consistently when Fed was almost 33.
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? lets pretend semi-finals never happened or what? and their rivalry only started when fed was " already 32/33 " aka Wimbledon Finals 2014. They have no rivalry in 2004-2006 thats obviously true.
 
mike danny said:
From the fact that that he's 5 and 6 years older.

His prime still overlapped with Nadal's because Nadal blossomed early, but not with Djokovic's. To consider Fedovic the same generation is insanity when Djoker didn't deal with 2004-2006 Fed and only started playing slam finals with him consistently when Fed was almost 33.
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WTH are you talking about? LOL Djokovic has played his first match against Federer back in 2006 in MC masters! Without Djokovic around Federer played for 8 years, with him around he played tennis for the reminder of his career all the way until 2022 (okay the last match they played was AO at the beginning of 2020...so let's cut those last two years out for that sake...), even without 2 last years of Fed's career it is still 14 full years of tennis! 8 versus 14...is math your friend??...
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
WTH are you talking about? LOL Djokovic has played his first match against Federer back in 2006 in MC masters! Without Djokovic around Federer played for 8 years, with him around he played tennis for the reminder of his career all the way until 2022 (okay the last match they played was AO at the beginning of 2020...so let's cut those last two years out for that sake...), even without 2 last years of Fed's career it is still 14 full years of tennis! 8 versus 14...is math your friend??...
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absolutely agree. its really weird to think otherwise.
 
Ace7 said:
? lets pretend semi-finals never happened or what? and their rivalry only started when fed was " already 32/33 " aka Wimbledon Finals 2014. They have no rivalry in 2004-2006 thats obviously true.
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SF matter too, but if people want to debate slam finals they started playing them consistently way later.
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
WTH are you talking about? LOL Djokovic has played his first match against Federer back in 2006 in MC masters! Without Djokovic around Federer played for 8 years, with him around he played tennis for the reminder of his career all the way until 2022 (okay the last match they played was AO at the beginning of 2020...so let's cut those last two years out for that sake...), even without 2 last years of Fed's career it is still 14 full years of tennis! 8 versus 14...is math your friend??...
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The 2006 matches were unimportant matches: one early round masters and 1 DC match. So only 1 tour level match.

No finals, no semis, no slam semis, no slam finals, no slam meetings, period. That's when Fed won 8 slams.
 
mike danny said:
The 2006 matches were unimportant matches: one early round masters and 1 DC match. So only 1 tour level match.

No finals, no semis, no slam semis, no slam finals, no slam meetings, period. That's when Fed won 8 slams.
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Dude they literally played each other 50 times and it's one of the most unpredictable and equal rivalries in tennis history only 2nd to Djokodal and the 2nd longest too at 50 matches! They played against one another as many times as Federer played against Roddick and Hewitt combined (one match short if you don't count Fed's walkover in one of YEC finals) and that were supposed to be his two biggest and most consistent rivals before Djokodal LOL! You are not making any sense...Yet somehow they don't belong to each other's gen...LMAO some people should never have internet i swear... :laughing: Not all of Federer's rivals from first half of 00's decade and late 90's belong to Djokodal's era, but he himself is a big part of it and has always been!...
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
Dude they literally played each other 50 times and it's one of the most unpredictable and equal rivalries in tennis history only 2nd to Djokodal and the longest too at 50 matches! They played against one another as many times as Federer played against Roddick and Hewitt combined and that were supposed to be his two biggest and most consistent rivals before Djokodal LOL! You are not making any sense...Yet somehow they don't belong to each other's gen...LMAO some people should never have internet i swear... :laughing:
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They played 50 times because of Fed's longevity, not because they're from the same generation.

They literally met at Wimb after Fed turned 30, but sure, same generation.

Thiem and Djokovic should also be same generation, I guess.
 
mike danny said:
SF matter too, but if people want to debate slam finals they started playing them consistently way later.
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dont see anyone talking about finals only. Anyways they played against each other in enough different circumstances regarding " age " be it a 20 year old djokovic vs a 26 year old Federer or whatever you want to choose.
 
mike danny said:
They played 50 times because of Fed's longevity, not because they're from the same generation.

They literally met at Wimb after Fed turned 30, but sure, same generation.

Thiem and Djokovic should also be same generation, I guess.
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What does age got to do with anything? They played for the majority of each other's career against one another and so they belong to the same gen...your logic is flawed...
 
Ace7 said:
dont see anyone talking about finals only. Anyways they played against each other in enough different circumstances regarding " age " be it a 20 year old djokovic vs a 26 year old Federer or whatever you want to choose.
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No, they haven't. Federer played every version of Djokovic, but Djokovic didn't play 2004-2006 Fed.
 
This is the correct classification

1970s Generation

01. Sampras
02. Agassi
03. Courier
04. Kuerten
05. Rafter
06. Ivanisevic
07. Kafelnikov
08. Bruguera
09. Krajicek
10. Stich

[ Boris Becker & Thomas Muster are born in late 60s, they too could be added in this list but technically they are out ]

1980s Generation

01. Djokovic
02. Federer
03. Nadal
04. Murray
05. Hewitt
06. Safin
07. Wawrinka
08. Roddick
09. Del Potro
10. Cilic

1990s Generation

01. Thiem
02. Mugvedev
03. Zverev
04. Tsitsipas
05. Ruud
06. Raonic
07. Dimitrov
08. Kygrios
09. Nishikori
10. Hurkacz

2000s Generation

01. Alcaraz
02. Sinner
03. Rune
04. Felix the loser
05. Shelton
06. Korda
07. Musetti

etc etc .... List will change over the next 10 years.
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
What does age got to do with anything? They played for the majority of each other's career against one another and so they belong to the same gen...your logic is flawed...
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I already answered why they played 50 times: because of Fed's longevity. Playing until 40 will allow that to happen.
 
mike danny said:
No, they haven't. Federer played every version of Djokovic, but Djokovic didn't play 2004-2006 Fed.
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sure thats why i say enough :). 2007 Australien Open is considered Fed's best showing in that slam as an example. So they kind of played the full range of being at their absolute peak / Prime / late-prime / decline whatever you want to call it.
 
NatF said:
Are Ferrero and Djokovic's the same gen then?
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No...as specifically mentioned it in previous post...but we are arguing, which gen Fed himself belongs to, not his rivals from early to mid 00's!...his rivals belongs exclusively to his gen (for the largest part), but Fed himself isn't...
 
NatF said:
Are Ferrero and Djokovic's the same gen then?
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Yes they are the same generation, if Ferrero was as great as Federer then he would have played till late 2010s and clashed many times with Nole & Nadal, but he did not have the talent (& fitness) to force those clashes. If Nadal can reach his first GS final in 2005 and Wawrinka in 2014 then it proves to us that different players mature differently and different players have different durability, injury patterns etc etc.....a broad classification is 10 years, not 4-5 years.
 
Razer said:
Yes they are the same generation, if Ferrero was as great as Federer then he would have played till late 2010s and clashed many times with Nole & Nadal, but he did not have the talent (& fitness) to force those clashes. If Nadal can reach his first GS final in 2005 and Wawrinka in 2014 then it proves to us that different players mature differently and different players have different durability, injury patterns etc etc...
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Well my original point is that the likes of Davydenko, Ferrero, Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Blake, Nalbandian etc...all part of the different era than Djokodal, but Federer himself isn't...
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
Well my original point is that the likes of Davydenko, Ferrero, Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Blake, Nalbandian etc...all part of the different era than Djokodal, but Federer himself isn't...
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That makes no sense bro, how can Djokodal be different gen/era from Hewitt/Roddick but same as Federer ?

Generation gaps are always based on age and they are always 10+ because when you are 30, then a 20 years comes in and that is when a proper generation gap is established, your time ends and someone else's time begins.... 20s and 30s are different generation if age gap is 10 between them.

This is the rule followed by professionals, don't follow what TTW says or Me or what anyone says, just follow what the pros say.

Once Christ Evert explicitly mentioned Court/BJK being gen 1, herself/Navratilova being Gen 2 & Steffi/Monica as generation 3. She said she played 3 generations of players in her career.


I had made a thread on this and posted youtube video as well where she said this..... the video uploader has been removed by youtube on copyright grounds
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
No...as specifically mentioned it in previous post...but we are arguing, which gen Fed himself belongs to, not his rivals from early to mid 00's!...his rivals belongs exclusively to his gen (for the largest part), but Fed himself isn't...
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So Fed isn't from the same gen as Ferrero? You can't be from multiple generations. Either Fed is Hewitt/Roddick/Safin/Ferrero etc...Gen, or they're all part of the same generation. I would say different gens but same era personally.
 
Ace7 said:
sure thats why i say enough :). 2007 Australien Open is considered Fed's best showing in that slam as an example. So they kind of played the full range of being at their absolute peak / Prime / late-prime / decline whatever you want to call it.
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But they haven't.

Nr of matches against the best Djokovic in 2011/2015/2016: 14
Nr of matches against the best Federer in 2004/2005/2006: 2
 
I define generation and era differently. A generation to me is a group of players who were born around the same time and came into the game in and around a few years of each other. The life of a professional athlete’s career is relatively short in the grand scheme of things so I don’t think there needs to be a 10 year time period to classify a group of players in the same Gen.

Now an era to me is a much longer period of time when many generations overlap in a specific time period that’s also defined by the rules, equipment, and overall structure of the tour.

In this case Fred and Nadavicurray are from a proceeding and succeeding generations.
 
mike danny said:
But they haven't.

Nr of matches against the best Djokovic in 2011/2015/2016: 14
Nr of matches against the best Federer in 2004/2005/2006: 2
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2007 - 2016 had a lot of matches either fed in his prime or djokovic in his prime. Or do you consider federer being in prime age only until 2006 ? and everything else doesnt count.
 
Ace7 said:
2007 - 2016 had a lot of matches either fed in his prime or djokovic in his prime. Or do you consider federer being in prime age only until 2006 ? and everything else doesnt count.
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I am just saying that Djokovic didn't play Fed in his 3 best years which is significant. Sure, he still played prime Fed in 2007-2009, but the 3 best versions of Fed were 2004-2006.

Fed did play all the best versions of Novak, not just prime Novak.
 
mike danny said:
I am just saying that Djokovic didn't play Fed in his 3 best years which is significant. Sure, he still played prime Fed in 2007-2009, but the 3 best versions of Fed were 2004-2006.

Fed did play all the best versions of Novak, not just prime Novak.
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Well can agree on that. even tho i think federer had quite a lot of peak performances outside of 2004-2006 where he played the same or a better level on the given day. but thats another subject i guess :)
 
mike danny said:
From the fact that that he's 5 and 6 years older.

His prime still overlapped with Nadal's because Nadal blossomed early, but not with Djokovic's. To consider Fedovic the same generation is insanity when Djoker didn't deal with 2004-2006 Fed and only started playing slam finals with him consistently when Fed was almost 33.
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Federer's last GS title: Australian Open 2018.
Djokovic's last GS title (for now): US Open 2023.
How can they be considered of the same generation by some?
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DSH said:
Federer's last GS title: Australian Open 2018.
Djokovic's last GS title (for now): US Open 2023.
How can they be considered of the same generation by some?
:confused:
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In real life 18 years is a generation as that is the age when you can marry, have kids, are an adult etc etc ... So half of that (9 years) is a HALF Gen

Now if you assume you are an 18 years old boy joining undergrad then the 9-10 years little girl in school is a kid to you, at that point she is a diff gen, but as they grow up and the man is 31, the girl is 22, they could be dating each other, they could be married, then they celebrate another 50 years of married life together before one of them (lets say the boy) passes away, then old girl lives another 10-15 years, holds her great grandkids in her arms and then dies

Now apply this to Tennis

Federer came first, when he turned pro, Djokodal were kids... then Fed had his peak when they were again not in thier prime, then he faced them in late 2000s when he was still in prime and they too in prime and even in early-mid 2000s when he too was in prime (as her his own words) and then he won his last slam in late 2010s, Nole is the equivalent of the girl in our story who wins his last slam after Fed is gone

Moral of the story : We dont need to be born in close proximity to be of same gen, when people a few years apart share fate with us for most of our lives then they are our generation.

The boy and girl in my story were half gen (9 years apart) but same gen
Federer & Djokodal are half gen (5-6 years apart) but same gen
 
The Sinner said:
I can see your point about Federer being in the same generation as Nadal and Djokovic. That’ll be like saying Connors and Lendl are of the same gen. Most consider them equals, yet Lendl beat Connors 17 times in a row and never lost to him from 1984 onwards. It only shows how the older AtTG is going to be disadvantaged after a certain point.
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Except Lendl was 8 years younger and didn't win his first slam before Connors won his last one, so a discrepancy was larger

In any case with Federer a late bloomer and Rafa an early prodigy one could easily confuse them of the same gen
 
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