top 5 clay court champions of open era

[NatF]

But that is too subjective for me. Djokovic in the US Open final 2010 for example played some great tennis and was just a few month away from total domination. I don't want to argue that Nadal had some horrible fate and would be otherwise hands down goat. Far from it, but there are reasons why he never had a similarily dominant period as Federer and Djokovic. And it does have a lot to do with competition.

Djokovic in the USO 2010 final was good, he was poor for half of 2013 (great for the other half) the rest of his draws in both years were soft. He still far from the tennis player he would become in 2011 - he got beaten by Federer 3x during the rest of the season and we know how good his record was against Federer in 2011.

Nadal was ranked #2 behind Federer or Djokovic in 05, 06, 07, 09 and 11 so 5 years. Injuries obviously stopped him from adding to this. Federer was #2 behind Nadal or Djokovic in 08, 10, 12, 14, so 4 years only slightly less than Nadal. Djokovic only has 1 such year - 2013.

 

[serve]

Djokovic in the USO 2010 final was good, he was poor for half of 2013 (great for the other half) the rest of his draws in both years were soft. He still far from the tennis player he would become in 2011 - he got beaten by Federer 3x during the rest of the season and we know how good his record was against Federer in 2011.

Nadal was ranked #2 behind Federer or Djokovic in 05, 06, 07, 09 and 11 so 5 years. Injuries obviously stopped him from adding to this. Federer was #2 behind Nadal or Djokovic in 08, 10, 12, 14, so 4 years only slightly less than Nadal. Djokovic only has 1 such year - 2013.

That is just nitpicking to suit your argument, look at it this way, maybe his defeat to Nadal at FO had something to do with that? I think, it is the wrong thread for that discussion though ... we strayed quite a bit from the actual topic

 

[NatF]

That is just nitpicking to suit your argument, look at it this way, maybe his defeat to Nadal at FO had something to do with that? I think, it is the wrong thread for that discussion though ... we strayed quite a bit from the actual topic

I was talking about the USO 2013 final - he was poor for sets 1 and 4. I don't nitpick I look at the details

This is off topic though you're right on that