Top 5 players in each category?

[federerhoogenbandfan]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Blake
4. Roddick
5. Bhagdatis

Backhand:

1. Nalbandian
2. Agassi
3. Ljubicic
4. Federer
5. Berdych

Serve:

1. Karlovic
2. Roddick
3. Safin
4. Ljubicic
5. Federer

Return of Serve:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Nalbandian
4. Agassi
5. Hewitt


Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Hewitt
4. Coria
5. Kiefer


Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Federer
3. Mirnyi
4. Karlovic
5. Ljubicic


Mental Toughness:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Kiefer
4. Agassi
5. Nalbandian

 

[prestige18]

where is safin on the backhand list he should be number one on that one

 

[DariusRaiden]

Why is Gasquet not even on the backhand list?

 

[ShcMad]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Moya
4. Berdych
5. Tursunov

Backhand:

1. Gasquet
2. Safin
3. Gaudio
4. Haas
5. Nalbandian

Serve:

1. Coria
2. Roddick
3. Ljubicic
4. J. Johansson
5. Safin

Return of Serve:

1. Agassi
2. Safin
3. Federer
4. Nalbandian
5. Ferrero


Movement:

1. Rogelio
2. Nadal, no?
3. Hewitt
4. O. Rochus
5. Davydenko


Net Game:

1. Federer
2. Hewitt
3. Gasquet
4. Nadal
5. Henman


Mental Toughness:

1. Hewitt
2. Nadal
3. Davydenko
4. Kiefer
5. O. Rochus

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Net Game:

1. Federer
2. Hewitt
3. Gasquet
4. Nadal
5. Henman

you forgot to put a smiley !

Net Game:

1. Federer
2. Hewitt
3. Gasquet
4. Nadal
5. Henman

 

[Saito]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Gonzales
3. Blake
4. Nadal
5. Roddick

Backhand:

1. Gasquet
2. Safin
3. Federer
4. Nalbandian
5. Berdych

Serve:

1. Roddick
2. Karlovic
3. Safin
4. Ljubicic
5. Federer

Return of Serve:

1. Federer
2. Agassi
3. Nadal
4. Hewitt
5. Nalbandian


Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Hewitt
4. Coria
5. Kiefer


Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Federer
3. Mirnyi
4. Karlovic
5. Ljubicic


Mental Toughness:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Kiefer
4. Agassi
5. Nalbandian

Made some changes, then got lazy and kept the rest the same...

 

[ShcMad]

you forgot to put a smiley !

Net Game:

1. Federer
2. Hewitt
3. Gasquet
4. Nadal
5. Henman

HHAHAHAHAHAA... you are so mean.

I know Nadal doesn't come to the net often, but when he does, he does it at the right moments and can hit some nice volleys with touch.

However, today I was browsing through the thread about Gaudio vs. Nadal, and I noticed you were blatantly supporting Gaudio for some reason. You were like: "ALLEZ ALLEZ VAMOS GAUDIO!" I don't know why you wanted Nadal to lose so badly, but I thought it was funny. :mrgreen:

 

[Andres]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Safin
3. Gonzalez
4. Berdych
5. Blake

Backhand:

1. Gaudio
2. Safin
3. Nalbandian
4. Federer
5. Gasquet

Serve:

1. Karlovic
2. Ljubicic
3. Guccione
4. J. Johansson
5. Ancic / Bracciali

Return of Serve:

1. Nalbandian
2. Federer
3. Coria
4. Hewitt
5. Agassi

Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Coria
3. Federer
4. Hewitt
5. Blake

Net Game:

1. Mirnyi
2. Henman
3. Karlovic
4. Ljubicic
5. Coria

 

[chiru]

this is pretty frickin subjective

 

[Andres]

Yes, this is an opinion, so, yes, it's subjetive.
Now, be subjetive, and submit your choices, and stop complaining...

 

[federerhoogenbandfan]

It is hard to even narrow it down to a top 5 in some areas since there are so many people so exceptional at that area. Sadly though for the net game part, it was hard to even find 5 that were even that good. I cringed putting down Mirnyi as the 3rd best net player in the game today.

 

[monologuist]

Forehand :
1.Fed
2.Nadal
3.Blake
4.Ferrero
5.Berdych

Backhand (1-handed)
1.Gasquet
2.Federer
3.Haas
4.Gaudio
5.Ljubicic

Backhand (2-handed)
1.Safin
2.Agassi
3.Nalbandian
4.Berdych
5.Baghdatis

Serve :
1.Ljubicic
2.Roddick
3.Safin
4.Federer
5.Karlovic

Return of serve :
1.Nalbandian
2.Hewitt
3.Agassi
4.Federer
5.Blake

Movement :
1.Nadal
2.Federer
3.Hewitt
4.Coria
5.Blake

Net Game :
1.Henman
2.Dent
3.Federer
4.GAsquet
5.Karlovic

Mental toughness :
1.Nadal
2.Federer
3.Hewitt
4.Agassi
5.Nalbandian (unless it is a GS semi or final...lol)

some of these are based more on the play of some of these guys in recent yeras, not necessarily at the moment, like Agassi, Hewitt, etc.

 

[VamosRafa]

I'm surprised Nalbandian is so high on so many of your lists there, and perhaps he deserves all of them but the mentally tough one. That one I don't understand. I'd put him on the list of the mentally weakest players, actually.

 

[diegaa]

FH:
1.Fed
2. Nadal
3. Gonzalez
4. Calleri
5. Blake

BH:
1. Gaudio
1 1/2. guga if not retired
2. Gasquet
3. haas
4. Federer
5. Ivan

Serve:
1. Ivo
2. ARod
3. Ljubo
4. Federer
5. Philipoussis.

retur of serve:
1. Nalbandian
2. Agassi
3. Nadal
4. Coria
5. Fed

Movement:
1. Fed
2. Nadal
3. Coria
4. Haas.
5. Cañas (the guy is still active)

Net Game:
1. Henman
2. Ljubo
3. Federer
4. Hewitt
5. Mirnyi.

Mental toughness

1. Nadal
2. Hewitt
3. Fed
4. Ljubo
5. Stepanek

I also wanna make top 5 of Mental weakness:

1. Gaudio
2. PH Mathieu
3. Safin
4. Nalbandian (agree with Vamosrafa on this one)
5. Pavel

 

[Tennis Psycho]

What about a TOPSPIN catagory?

 

[ShcMad]

What about a TOPSPIN catagory?

LOL...uh...uh...I think you know who the winner will be, no? (ok, I know this "no?" thing is getting old but I had to use it one more time).

 

[monologuist]

I'm surprised Nalbandian is so high on so many of your lists there, and perhaps he deserves all of them but the mentally tough one. That one I don't understand. I'd put him on the list of the mentally weakest players, actually.

note my disclaimer...he is one of the most mentally tough players 99% of the time though, which is not saying that much considering that there are really only 3 or 4 truly mentally tough players on tour...it's kind of sad actually, going down the list of top 100 players...almost every single one besides the ones I listed has a reputation of mental inconsistency, of choking in big time matches or points, of beating themselves when things don't go their way....Nalbandian is more mentally strong in terms of consistency, tennis IQ, and not beating himself or playing beyond himself...his one weakness mentally has been closing out matches deep in the slams (particularly playing while ahead)...of course, this is the sort of mental weakness that pretty much all pros possess until they break through if and when they win it all.

 

[VamosRafa]

note my disclaimer...he is one of the most mentally tough players 99% of the time though, which is not saying that much considering that there are really only 3 or 4 truly mentally tough players on tour...it's kind of sad actually, going down the list of top 100 players...almost every single one besides the ones I listed has a reputation of mental inconsistency, of choking in big time matches or points, of beating themselves when things don't go their way....Nalbandian is more mentally strong in terms of consistency, tennis IQ, and not beating himself or playing beyond himself...his one weakness mentally has been closing out matches deep in the slams (particularly playing while ahead)...of course, this is the sort of mental weakness that pretty much all pros possess until they break through if and when they win it all.

So why do you think teenager Nadal has done so well thus far?

He's mentally tough -- that's been a given for years -- but for some reason even though others are far more talented than he is, he is posting the results, certainly on clay and even on hard.

Why is that, in your view?

Is he a one-slam wonder, or is he poised to continue to damage on the Tour?

 

[127mph]

all you fools got it wrong. here is how it is and it only is as of 4-22-06

forehand:
federer
blake
berdych
verdasco
nadal

1 handers
gasquet
federer
guadio
haas
ljubicic

2handers
safin
nalbandian
agassi
ferrero
hewitt

serve:
ljubicic
roddick
karlovic
safin
federer

movement(not just speed)
coria
federer
nadal
hewitt
robredo

net:
federer
henman
gasquet
safin
haas

after this there are no categories, and thats the bottom line.

 

[Tennis_Goodness]

Just by looking your guys lists, you can see why Federer is the king of mens tennis! He's in almost every category as one of the best if not the best!

 

[superman1]

Forehand:
Federer
Blake
Nadal
Agassi
Safin

Backhand:
Safin
Agassi
Federer
Gasquet
Gaudio

Serve:
Karlovic
Roddick
Ljubicic
Safin
Federer

Return of Serve:
Agassi
Federer
Hewitt
Nalbandian
Blake

Movement:
Federer
Nadal
Coria
Blake
Ferrer

Net game:
Federer
Henman
Mirnyi
Hewitt
Ancic

Mental toughness:
Nadal
Davydenko
Agassi
Federer
O Rochus

 

[fastdunn]

1 handers
Gasquet (unreal new generation of 1 handerer)
Haas
Guadio
Lubjicic
Federer (still defensive shot most of the time. his is #5 only because he is Federer)


Movement
Coria(real smooth, glides, somewhat like Mecir and Sampras)
Nadal
Hewitt
Federer(Anticipation is super but not faster than guys above)

Net:
Henman
Dent
Raedek
(Haas
Federer) - only top 3 guys play net at critical points and finish games

 

[VamosRafa]

^^^

So although Rafa can execute a few forehands, even though Federer and Blake's forehands are better, his mental toughness is the key to his winning the matches, no?'

Sorry, you mentioned his movement in there, too. Not as the best, but as a factor.

It's, like, HOOLLLAAAA.

You obviously don't have The Tennis Channel.

 

[superman1]

Do three of those ^ things mean my post?

These are the top 5 in each category of the ENTIRE ATP. If I put Nadal at #2 or #3 in one of these categories, that's a pretty big compliment to his game.

Forehand - Federer's is the best, Blake wouldn't be in the top 10 without his forehand. Nadal doesn't get quite as much juice, and against Blake he gets killed because of that.

Movement - Nadal studies Federer's movement on tapes. No one is better than Fed in this category. I'd take Nadal in the 100m though.

Mental toughness/fighting spirit is big. If there was a category for athleticism, I'd put him #1 in that too...I have the Tennis Channel. You can't even see the ball on the matches they show.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

HHAHAHAHAHAA... you are so mean.

I know Nadal doesn't come to the net often, but when he does, he does it at the right moments and can hit some nice volleys with touch.

However, today I was browsing through the thread about Gaudio vs. Nadal, and I noticed you were blatantly supporting Gaudio for some reason. You were like: "ALLEZ ALLEZ VAMOS GAUDIO!" I don't know why you wanted Nadal to lose so badly, but I thought it was funny. :mrgreen:

yes i hate nadal and would support his opponent whoever he is, wherever and whenever
("it's visceral", the doctor said)
but don't misread me, i also like gaudio : i wouldn't have supported him "so obviously" if i didn't like him...

anyway, that being said, it's not more ridiculous than considering nadal as one of of the best net players of the wolrd !!!
i'm sure many nadal fans even won't put him in that list...

 

[Matthew]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Blake
3. Nadal
4. Roddick
5. Safin

Backhand:

1. Safin
2. Agassi
3. Federer
4. Gasquet
5. Gaudio

Serve:

1. Karlovic
2. Roddick
3. Safin
4. Ljubicic
5. Federer

Return of Serve:

1. Agassi
2. Hewitt
3. Federer
4. Baghdatis
5. Nalbandian


Movement:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Hewitt
4. Blake
5. Coria


Net Game:

1. Santoro
2. Paes
3. Bob Bryan
4. Mike Bryan
5. Fededer


Mental Toughness:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Agassi
4. Hrbaty
5. Ljubicic

 

[federerhoogenbandfan]

^^^

So although Rafa can execute a few forehands, even though Federer and Blake's forehands are better, his mental toughness is the key to his winning the matches, no?'

Sorry, you mentioned his movement in there, too. Not as the best, but as a factor.

It's, like, HOOLLLAAAA.

What is wrong with that?

 

[Tennis Psycho]

LOL...uh...uh...I think you know who the winner will be, no? (ok, I know this "no?" thing is getting old but I had to use it one more time).

Who Nadal? But who would be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th?

 

[dannyjjang]

fH:Agassi
bh:agassi
Serve:agassi
movement:agassi
mental toughness:agassi
net game:agassi

 

[FuZz_Da_AcE]

how can you not have hewitt in your mental toughness category?? he hsould be at least no.1!

otherwise, very accurate work lol

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

fH:Agassi
bh:agassi
Serve:agassi
movement:agassi
mental toughness:agassi
net game:agassi

this is what i call a true fan !

 

[superman1]

Only one I'd really disagree with is movement - he ain't the wild teenager he used to be.

But yeah, he is a better ball striker than anyone in history, I think. Serve is very good, very underrated. Net game is also underrated - he usually wins points up there, though he rarely ventures. Definitely not the best, but whatever. Agassi rules.

I didn't put Hewitt in the mental toughness category because he's a little baby these days. He loses everything and it doesn't seem to bother him at all.

 

[Lleyton Hewitt]

Forehand - Federer Nadal Blake Gonzalez Bagdhatis
Backhand - Safin Nalbandian Gaudio Nadal Coria
Serve - Roddick Karlovic Safin Henman Verkerk
Net Play - Henman Federer Hewitt Mirnyi Karlovic
Return of serve - Hewitt Nadal Federer Coria Nalbandian
Movement - Nadal Coria Hewitt Federer O.Rochus
Mental Toughness - Nadal Federer Hewitt Coria Bagdahtis
Mental Weakness - Mathieu Nalbandian Gaudio Safin Murray

 

[FED-EX]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Gonzo
3. Blake
4. J.Johansson
5. Safin

Backhand:

1. Safin
2. Agassi
3. Nalbandian
4. Gasquet
5. Gaudio

Serve:

1. Roddick
2. Mirnyi
3. Safin
4. Ljubicic
5. Karlovic

Return of Serve:

1. Coria
2. Hewitt
3. Federer
4. Baghdatis
5. Nalbandian


Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Coria
3. Hewitt
4. Blake
5. Federer


Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Ancic
3. Stephanek
4. Mirnyi
5. Federer


Mental Toughness:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Nalbandian
4. Massu
5. Ljubicic

 

[fastdunn]

Movement - Nadal studies Federer's movement on tapes. No one is better than Fed in this category. I'd take Nadal in the 100m though.
.

I disagree. It's a false impression. Federer's movement is
weaker dept. compared to his other skills, IMHO.
Still very good but there are handful of guys who can be *faster*
than Federer.

Rogelio is an astute mover with great anticipation
but not particularly quick or smooth.
Hewitt, Coria, Nadal (and maybe Blake) are *noticably* faster.
Rogelio's movement is not smooth or silky as Coria who can
glides around the court like a melting ice on glass table...

When you talk about movement, Coria is the guy currently.
That's the way you want to move on the court...

 

[federerhoogenbandfan]

Coria is slower than he used to be. Watching him play in Monte Carlo it is obvious he has lost speed. Hewitt has lost speed too. Neither Coria or Hewitt are quicker than Federer today IMO, maybe at their best but not right now.

 

[McStud]

Forehand:

1. Federer
2. Blake
3. Safin
4. Nadal
5. Andreev

Backhand:

1. Safin
2. Agassi
3. Federer
4. Gasquet
5. Nadal

Serve:

1. Roddick
2. Federer
3. Safin
4. Ljubicic
5. Karlovic

Return:

1. Federer
2. Agassi
3. Nadal
4. Berdych
5. Nalbandian

Movement:

1. Federer (anticipation)
2. Blake (footspeed)
3. Nadal (bit of both)
4. Hewitt
5. Roddick (lol j/k)

Netgame:

1. Henman
2. Federer
3. Blake
4. Safin
5. Berdych

Mental Toughness:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Agassi
4. Hewitt
5. not sure..

 

[Dan007]

1. Federer
2. Blake
3. Nadal
4. Roddick
5. Gonzalez

Backhand:

1. Gasquet
2. Safin
3. Nalbandian
4. Agassi
5. Gaudio

Serve:

1. Roddick
2. Safin
3. Federer
4. J. Johansson
5. Ljubicic


Return of Serve:

1. Agassi
2. Federer
3. Nalbandian
4. Hewitt
5. Coria

Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Hewitt
3. Blake
4. Coria
5. Federer


Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Santoro
3. Dent
4. Bob Bryan
5. Federer


Mental Toughness:

1. Nadal
2. Hewitt
3. Federer
4. Agassi
5. ??????

 

[fastdunn]

Backhand:

1. Gasquet
2. Safin
3. Nalbandian
4. Agassi
5. Gaudio


Movement:

1. Nadal
2. Hewitt
3. Blake
4. Coria
5. Federer


Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Santoro
3. Dent
4. Bob Bryan
5. Federer

Great answers! IMHO. That's about right (to me).....

 

[Marat Safinator]

forehand: blake, agassi, federer, safin, baghdatis

backhand: safin, agassi, gaudio, davydenko, djokovic

net: henman, santoro, mirnyi, stepanek, federer

serve: ljubicic, karlovic, phillipoussis, stepanek, roddick

mental: safin, davydenko, bjorkman, agassi, federer

movement: canas, blake, nadal, federer, bracciali

service return: agassi, hewitt, safin, bracciali, federer.

 

[nadalgirl26]

forehand: blake, agassi, federer, safin, baghdatis

backhand: safin, agassi, gaudio, davydenko, djokovic

net: henman, santoro, mirnyi, stepanek, federer

serve: ljubicic, karlovic, phillipoussis, stepanek, roddick

mental: safin, davydenko, bjorkman, agassi, federer

movement: canas, blake, nadal, federer, bracciali

service return: agassi, hewitt, safin, bracciali, federer.

Safin has the best mental gamme, are u freaking ouatta your mind!?!>?!!?!?~

 

[Marat Safinator]

no, when he takes a 2 set lead. he is unstoppable!!!!!

 

[nadalgirl26]

no, when he takes a 2 set lead. he is unstoppable!!!!!

That is only one type of mental game. He is goods playing with a lead I agree. He does not fight as hard when behind as some others though, and he does not always concentrawe enough and gives up dumb errors and frees points.

 

[croatian sensation]

Net Game:

1. Henman
2. Ancic
3. Stephanek
4. Mirnyi
5. Federer

Finally someone figured Ancic has a better net game than Ljubicic. Ljubicic hates the net. His net game is not among top 5 on tour,no way.

 

[TacoBellBorderBowl1946]

forehand : 1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Nadal
4. Gonzo
5.Davydenko
backhand 1. Roddick
2. Nalbandian
3. Gasquet
4. Llubicic
5. Federer
serve 1. Lbucicic( location over speed)
2. Roddick ( has the speed, needs better location)
3. Safin (Speed)
4. Pim Pim ( speed
5. Federer (location).

 

[TacoBellBorderBowl1946]

I'll only do the 3 main strokes.




forehand : 1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Nadal
4. Gonzo
5.Davydenko
backhand 1. Roddick
2. Nalbandian
3. Gasquet
4. Llubicic
5. Federer
serve 1. Lbucicic( location over speed)
2. Roddick ( has the speed, needs better location)
3. Safin (Speed)
4. Pim Pim ( speed
5. Federer (location).

 

[helloworld]

Fed backhand is nowhere in the top 5. Nadal's backhand is a LOT more powerful than Fed's. Nadal can hit the ball pretty darn hard and flat on the backhand side with consistancy. Fed's backhand is a fruity. After what I saw at the French open this year, I'm convinced that his backhand is not even in the top 50. He dominated the tour mainly due to serve, big forehand, great return game, anticipate the ball extremely well which allows him to get to the ball easier than most players on tour.
As for my list;
Forehand
1.Federer
2.Nadal
3.blake
4.gonzalez
5.Roddick(not anymore)
Backhand
1.Agassi(prime form)
2.Nalbandian
3.Safin(depend on his emotional status, sometimes it can go down to No. 150..)
4.Nadal
5.Nieminen(yes, he has a VERY good backhand when it's ON)
51.Federer(He's lucky to be at 51 !)
Serve
1.Karlovic(location & speed)
2.Llubicic(location & speed)
3.Federer(location)
4.Roddick(speed)
5.Ancic
volley
1.Lyander Paes
2.Henman(not an old Henman today...)
3.Santoro(softest hands in the game)
4.Bob Bryan
5.Mirnyi
?.Roddick
movement
1.Nadal
2.Federer(anticipation over speed)
3.Hewitt
4.Coria(Couple years ago maybe..)
5.blake
mental toughness
1.Nadal
2.Hewitt
3.Federer
4.Coria
5.Nalbandian(when not in the finals)
50.Nalbandian(when in the finals)

 

[Mr.Groundstroke]

FH:
1. Fed
2. Verdasco
3. Gonzalez
4. Berdych
5. Blake

BH:
1. Safin
2. Nalbandian
3. Gasquet
4. Ljubicic
5. Haas


Serve:
1. Karlovic
2. Safin
3. Ljubicic
4. Stepanek
5. Roddick

Return of serve:
1. Blake
2. Agassi
3. Nalbandian
4. Gonzalez
5. Federer

Movement:
1. Federer
2. Blake
3. Ferrero
4. Davydenko
5. Coria

Net Game:
1. Henman
2. Stepanek
3. Federer
4. Ancic
5. Santoro

WITHOUT A DOUBT

 

[Chang]

Fed backhand is nowhere in the top 5. Nadal's backhand is a LOT more powerful than Fed's. Nadal can hit the ball pretty darn hard and flat on the backhand side with consistancy. Fed's backhand is a fruity. After what I saw at the French open this year, I'm convinced that his backhand is not even in the top 50. He dominated the tour mainly due to serve, big forehand, great return game, anticipate the ball extremely well which allows him to get to the ball easier than most players on tour.
As for my list;
Forehand
1.Federer
2.Nadal
3.blake
4.gonzalez
5.Roddick(not anymore)
Backhand
1.Agassi(prime form)
2.Nalbandian
3.Safin(depend on his emotional status, sometimes it can go down to No. 150..)
4.Nadal
5.Nieminen(yes, he has a VERY good backhand when it's ON)
51.Federer(He's lucky to be at 51 !)
Serve
1.Karlovic(location & speed)
2.Llubicic(location & speed)
3.Federer(location)
4.Roddick(speed)
5.Ancic
volley
1.Lyander Paes
2.Henman(not an old Henman today...)
3.Santoro(softest hands in the game)
4.Bob Bryan
5.Mirnyi
?.Roddick
movement
1.Nadal
2.Federer(anticipation over speed)
3.Hewitt
4.Coria(Couple years ago maybe..)
5.blake
mental toughness
1.Nadal
2.Hewitt
3.Federer
4.Coria
5.Nalbandian(when not in the finals)
50.Nalbandian(when in the finals)

on clay yes, Fed's backhand is a bit crap but on faster surfaces his backhand is pretty good. He can't be no.1 for 2 years straight with a crap backhand.

 

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on clay yes, Fed's backhand is a bit crap but on faster surfaces his backhand is pretty good. He can't be no.1 for 2 years straight with a crap backhand.

He does have a crap backhand compare to other pros. Many pros can hit clean winners with backhand. I don't see Federer doing too many of that unless some s&v comes up the net and let him pass. He has a very good passing shot and slice.