Top 5 Young Americans

Swingmaster

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Rank your top five Americans under 25 in terms of predicted success. Mine: 1. Nakashima 2. Fritz 3. Opelka cuz he’s tall and decently skilled. 4. Tommy Paul 5. Svaijda I guess but let me think about it.
 

topher

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Rank your top five Americans under 25 in terms of predicted success. Mine: 1. Nakashima 2. Fritz 3. Opelka cuz he’s tall and decently skilled. 4. Tommy Paul 5. Svaijda I guess but let me think about it.
I don’t know anything about Nakashima or Svaijda? Are people ready to give up on Tiafoe?

I’d have put Fritz #1 as he has the highest ranking under 25, but I *think* (just guessing) COVID-19 derailed the training regimen he started in 2019.
 

Robert F

Professional
Who are these guys?

I thought the top young Americans were Sock/Isner/Querry/Johnson and Ginepri.

Honestly, just started to hear about Nakashima, never heard of Svaijda.

I think Paul has gone as far as he is going to go. Fritz and Opelka have some potential if they can clean things up. But I don't see them being slam contenders in the current environment.
 

lim

Semi-Pro
Fritz has 6 wins over the Top 10...
I'd like to see Nakashima do well but he's not at the level as some of his peers i.e. FAA or Jannik Sinner
 

McLovin

Legend
I don’t know anything about Nakashima or Svaijda? Are people ready to give up on Tiafoe?

I’d have put Fritz #1 as he has the highest ranking under 25, but I *think* (just guessing) COVID-19 derailed the training regimen he started in 2019.
This. Nakashima looks promising, but I wouldn't place him even in the top 5 yet. He needs to have a full freshman year, then see how he handles the "sophomore slump". Fritz seems to have handled it well, putting in the time, taking a few beatings, and adding a great coach to his staff in Annacone. If he keeps putting in the work, he'll be top 10 material. Winning a major? Meh...maybe he'll pull a Roddick or Cilic and squeak out a US once Fedalovic retire.

Also, I think Tiafoe has a solid career ahead of himself as a perennial top 50, popping into the top 20 every so often. If he could fix his damn forehand, maybe higher.

Opelka will likely mirror Isner, and while I'm not a huge fan of either, its not a bad career to have.

Watching WTT, I've become a fan of Tommy Paul. I don't think he'll do much more in his career, but something about the way he moves on the court...it's fun to watch. He looks many times as if he's a bit off balance, but he somehow gets his feet under himself when he needs to.

What happened to Mmoh?
 

Swingmaster

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I like watching Paul too. I read that his coach told him not to slide into forehands on his left leg because it’s dangerous and stupid, but last I saw, he was doing it with abandon. I posted the question because I’ve been watching a lot of the Americans doing World Team Tennis, which isn’t the greatest but I like Kenin and Clijsters and Bouchard is attractive. If I didn’t know better I would think that Nakashima is the veteran. He’s more solid than Fritz but without the firepower. I probably should’ve included Tiafoe, but it sucks to have to clean up your forehand at this stage in your career. I enjoy watching him, though. The Americans in general aren’t the greatest crop, but it’s kinda fun to see if anyone can rise to the top and amount to something decent. But like goalies being our best bet in soccer, it might have to be seven footers in tennis.
 

fed1

Professional
Do a sad exercise and make your list of 5 and try to compare any one of them to a Sinner, Auger-aliassime or De minaur. Depressing at best !!!
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
I think Nakashima will be like a De Minaur or a Coric. A guy who you’ve got to bring your A game against because he’s not going to give you much. Terrible cliche, but still. You’ll say De Minaur is faster, but he’s limited. Fritz is explosive but just seems a little awkward still. Kind of a Querrey type. You’re right about FAA. He could be transcendant. Started going a little backwards, though, surprisingly. Sinner is a dude to be reckoned with. Maybe a Murray type career.
 

McLovin

Legend
Do a sad exercise and make your list of 5 and try to compare any one of them to a Sinner, Auger-aliassime or De minaur. Depressing at best !!!
Three of my favorite 'young guns'. While I don't think de Minaur will win a major, I enjoy his fight & determination. FAA & Sinner...the sky's the limit for those two (assuming injury & burnout free).
 
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Three of my favorite 'young guns'. While I don't think de Minaur will win a major, I enjoy his fight & determination. FAA & Sinner...the sky's the limit for those two (assuming injury & burnout free).
Abso-freakin-lutely. Felix and Jannick are my two absolute favorite next geners. Tsitsipas is a third, but Felix and Jannick are way ahead. I’d put de Minaur around 5-6 with Zverev taking 4.
 

topher

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Do a sad exercise and make your list of 5 and try to compare any one of them to a Sinner, Auger-aliassime or De minaur. Depressing at best !!!
Ehh, I’m not sure I see any of those winning a major besides Sinner. I’d be more depressed comparing to Tsitsipas, Med and Zverev, who are also under 25 last I checked.
 

fed1

Professional
Ehh, I’m not sure I see any of those winning a major besides Sinner. I’d be more depressed comparing to Tsitsipas, Med and Zverev, who are also under 25 last I checked.
Comparing any American player to Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev and even Rublev is no contest, we have nobody in that neighborhood, the group I listed was the next level down and younger and again, we have nobody in that neighborhood either!! Hence, the depressing part.
 

topher

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Comparing any American player to Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev and even Rublev is no contest, we have nobody in that neighborhood, the group I listed was the next level down and again, we have nobody in that neighborhood either!! Hence, the depressing part.
True, but I think with the success Americans are used to having in tennis anything less than a Roddick will be a bit of a letdown either way. At least, until there’s another 10 years of mediocrity smh
 

QuadCam

Professional
Nakashima has been impressive in WTT this month. He's only 18. He looks like he's currently playing like a top 75 guy... Maybe better.

I don't think Paul will every be more than a career journeyman... Most likely playing qualies for all masters 1000s.
Opelka is a less talented Isner. Serve isn't as good. Forehand isn't either.
Fritz has the potential to come up big at a grand slam... Maybe win 1.
Tiafoe's reached his peak, I afraid.

Who is rising up in the futures? I watched a big serving lefty in the 18s, named Martin Damm. I think he won the usta nationals last year. looks like he's got all the tools to be a to player.

He's only 16, it turns out.
 
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sureshs

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I first watched Svaijda when he was a little teenager, playing doubles with an older person, against UCLA/USC/Stanford teams when volunteering at the Pacific Coast Men's Doubles. When he played, the entire crowd would gather to see the "kid."

Even when he was that small and young, he was going head to head with D1 college players.
 

fed1

Professional
Nakashima has been impressive in WTT this month. He's only 18. He looks like he's currently playing like a top 75 guy... Maybe better.

I don't think Paul will every be more than a career journeyman... Most likely playing qualies for all masters 1000s.
Opelka is a less talented Isner. Serve isn't as good. Forehand isn't either.
Fritz has the potential to come up big at a grand slam... Maybe win 1.
Tiafoe's reached his peak, I afraid.

Who is rising up in the futures? I watched a big serving lefty in the 18s, named Martin Damm. I think he won the usta nationals last year. looks like he's got all the tools to be a to player.

He's only 16, it turns out.
I will take that Fritz bet!! :-D :-D Way to many guys who are more talented than him in the same age range!!
 

QuadCam

Professional
I will take that Fritz bet!! :-D :-D Way to many guys who are more talented than him in the same age range!!
I would never bet in Fritz winning a slam, but I'm just saying that he's the only one playing for the usa under 25 that could do it.... If he went on a 14 day steak.

Currently, Sandgren has the best shot for winning a slam. Best mover if the American guys. He's proven that he had the tools to do it, too. But he's 27 or 28, right?

The other americans are all in the decline. Sock, Johnson, Querrey, Isner.... They are on the sunset of their singles careers.
 

Swingmaster

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I think the stars could align for Fritz but there’s something about his demeanor that doesn’t suggest Grand Slammer. Kinda like Zverev in that regard. Tsitsipas, on the other hand, has the confidence of a honey badger. FAA seems like a supremely athletic nice guy. People forget about Shapo. He’s got the goods. Maybe not the margins.
 

Swingmaster

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Reranking: 1. Nakashima 2. Fritz 3. Opelka 4. J.J. Wolf 5. Tommy Paul
Nakashima stays at number one after pummeling Sock 5-0 in WTT
J.J. moves to number four after somebody posted a convincing article about him.
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
Man, it's really hard to pick, looking at the list...

1. Fritz
2. Paul
3. Opelka
4. Nakashima
5. Mackenzie McDonald maybe?
You like Paul? Seems like a pretty cool surfer skater boy cowanunga dude bro, but his strokes seem a little erratic. Real good mover though.
 
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I don’t count 6-7 feet tall players as “good” more “good at one specific technique” but hey, maybe in a few decades we could get another Sampras or Agassi.
 

Swingmaster

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If Sampras had been born in the 90s he’d be Steve Johnson right now. Agassi would be Sock. We produce misfit toys now.
 

Swingmaster

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Could happen. I don't think his game is there yet, but I'd love it if it did.
If online sports betting was legal in my state, I’d partake. Maybe it actually is, but I don’t think so. Zverev will be annoyed as hell that a zit faced no namer isn’t hurting himself with frequent mistakes. He’ll start whining about his own game, as if his opponent has nothing to do with it, and it’ll be a downward spiral from there. I think.
 

skaj

Legend
Rank your top five Americans under 25 in terms of predicted success. Mine: 1. Nakashima 2. Fritz 3. Opelka cuz he’s tall and decently skilled. 4. Tommy Paul 5. Svaijda I guess but let me think about it.
You don't predict Gauff success?
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
You don't predict Gauff success?
If you wanna go coed, then clear out the five men for five women. No, actually, Gauff, Kenin, Anisimova, some new girl who’s even younger than Gauff who’s name I can’t recall, and then Nakashima.
 

skaj

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If you wanna go coed, then clear out the five men for five women. No, actually, Gauff, Kenin, Anisimova, some new girl who’s even younger than Gauff who’s name I can’t recall, and then Nakashima.
I don't want to go anywhere, it's just first player that comes to mind.
 

Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
Sebastian Korda is an American and just turned 20. Junior Australian Open champ, 6'5", a good mover, and calm on the court. Plus his dad was a top 5 player and Slam champ. Lots of upside there. He looked decent against Shapovalov today in the 4 set loss.
 

Swingmaster

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Yeah, Korda’s got game. I think maybe he overachieved for that Australian win and people got a little too high on him for a year or so after. Then he kinda fell back to earth and now he can just be a steady riser.
 

atatu

Legend
Reviving this thread now that Korda has taken center stage and Brooksby and Nakashima are having good summers. Is Paul still in the top 5 ?
 
Nakashima has been impressive in WTT this month. He's only 18. He looks like he's currently playing like a top 75 guy... Maybe better.

I don't think Paul will every be more than a career journeyman... Most likely playing qualies for all masters 1000s.
Opelka is a less talented Isner. Serve isn't as good. Forehand isn't either.
Fritz has the potential to come up big at a grand slam... Maybe win 1.
Tiafoe's reached his peak, I afraid.

Who is rising up in the futures? I watched a big serving lefty in the 18s, named Martin Damm. I think he won the usta nationals last year. looks like he's got all the tools to be a to player.

He's only 16, it turns out.
Nakashima is 20. The old generation like Agassi had two Major finals and 3 semifinals and won the masters cup by then. I feel like 20 now is like what 16 used to be. Becker already has 2 major titles at 20.
 
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