Top Spin 4 Discussion Thread

2K games is among the more prominent developers in the gaming industry. With that said, I'm sure they have more than enough funds to acquire a license. I mean, they managed to get the FO, AO and USO. Was it just a hassle to call up the guys at Wimbledon?
The same 2K that got outbid for the NFL exclusive license by EA. 2K also canceled their NHL series due to loss of money. That stuff doesn't grow on trees, you know.

If Wimbledon has an exclusive license w/ EA like the NFL does, there isn't much 2K can do about it.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
no problem, try and get used to manual preparation as quickly as possible as u are able to create better shots eg inside out forehands, better returns, angled shots etc... when u purchase the full version around 15 euros, u are automatically entitled to future updates with no further charge.
For manual preperation, do you just tap the right or left button as soon as you see which side the shot is on? Or do you wait sometimes?
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
2K games is among the more prominent developers in the gaming industry. With that said, I'm sure they have more than enough funds to acquire a license. I mean, they managed to get the FO, AO and USO. Was it just a hassle to call up the guys at Wimbledon?
Are you serious? Wow, people are naive. Yeah, they were too lazy to make a phone call..lol. No. Wimbledon is extremely hard to deal with when it comes to licensing. It is not nearly as easy as you are insinuating. Regardless, who cares? Tennis games (well, the rare good ones) are best enjoyed against a human opponent. If the grass court in the game does not say Wimbledon, it's not really going to affect me in the least.
 

LameTennisPlayer

Professional
For manual preperation, do you just tap the right or left button as soon as you see which side the shot is on? Or do you wait sometimes?
My keyboard keys are left shift for leftside, and right shift for rightside, a quick tap is all you need, keep in mind you can switch to the alternate side if you decide to change your shot selection from backhand to forehand and visa versa. Delay your choice when you are running down balls whether they are hard dtl or drop shots, you will get to the ball quicker. Make sure you complete all the tutorial tips, and spend a bit of time in the practise area-groundstrokes to get a feel using manual prep and playing around with shots.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
My keyboard keys are left shift for leftside, and right shift for rightside, a quick tap is all you need, keep in mind you can switch to the alternate side if you decide to change your shot selection from backhand to forehand and visa versa. Delay your choice when you are running down balls whether they are hard dtl or drop shots, you will get to the ball quicker. Make sure you complete all the tutorial tips, and spend a bit of time in the practise area-groundstrokes to get a feel using manual prep and playing around with shots.
Wow, you actually play Full Ace with the keyboard? That must be even harder. I use a gamepad. When not grab a cheap Logitech gamepad? It will make the game more enjoyable IMO.

I did all the tutorials...Very helpful. This is also the first tennis game where it's actually fun to hit off the ball machine. I dont think any console game can come close to the depth and gameplay of Full Ace. I also tried Dream
Match Tennis and it's good too, but I didn't like how you have to wait until almost hitting before pressing the button to hit. The timing was throwing me off. I think Full Ace is the best.
 
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Are you serious? Wow, people are naive. Yeah, they were too lazy to make a phone call..lol. No. Wimbledon is extremely hard to deal with when it comes to licensing. It is not nearly as easy as you are insinuating. Regardless, who cares? Tennis games (well, the rare good ones) are best enjoyed against a human opponent. If the grass court in the game does not say Wimbledon, it's not really going to affect me in the least.
It's hard to convey sarcasm over the internet...

I'm just saying since they had Wimbledon in Top Spin 2, licensing Wimbledon may have been possible but was a disappointing that they didn't have it in TS4.
 

LameTennisPlayer

Professional
Wow, you actually play Full Ace with the keyboard? That must be even harder. I use a gamepad. When not grab a cheap Logitech gamepad? It will make the game more enjoyable IMO.
Yes, I use the keyboard, but I've been playing it for a long time. Don't get me wrong it took me a long time to win one point on easy, let alone a game then a set. I'm just happy to use the keyboard for now, may try it with a gamepad later at some point. I also agree it is the best tennis simulation game atm and great value, after trying every other game on the market.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
It's hard to convey sarcasm over the internet...

I'm just saying since they had Wimbledon in Top Spin 2, licensing Wimbledon may have been possible but was a disappointing that they didn't have it in TS4.
What I heard happened is that EA spent a ton on it for Grand Slam tennis. Thus pricing out the competition. They do this a lot (Madden buying exclusive rights to the NFL). It's lame and has really hurt sports video games in general.
 

stoutman11

New User
Electronic Arts is the largest or second largest video game publisher in the world with activision being the other. EA has a substantial edge in assets and money. They more than likely have an exclusive deal with wimbledon for a certian amount of time. Thus top spin is left in the cold when it comes to that. EA actually tried to aquire 2k=TakeTwo (ttwo) about a year or so ago but take two wouldnt sell.

Anyhow Top spin is looking to be the best bet for a tennis simulation on a current console. Virtua Tennis games can be very fun however they are very arcade like and more of a pick up and play with friends game. Although top spin is missing quite a bit of features that would make a complete tennis game.

I would really love if they either Take Two or EA would make an ATP game only. With the top 50-100 players in the world. Dont waste any money on the ladies players. I honestly dont care about retired players or lengends either save that money.... Like Nba 2k11 or Madden they are very official and try to be very sim. Give me the top 50-100 male players in the world. Give me the top tennis sponsors, the real outfits, and equipment down to the strings. Give me challenges (spot shot) like in smash court. Give me all the grand slams, all the masters series and the actual stadiums they are played in.... they can make up stuff for the 500 series and lower- that is fine to save money. Give me real player motion and animation for all of them. Bring in 2-3 guys to motion capture the top-50 guys on tour. Watch a game or set and mimic these guys in a motion cap studio! please.

Now for the complainers wanting the WTA maybe if the ATP game does well they could take turns releasing the game every other year like in Toronto and Montreal. so every other year you would get a new release with wta and Atp.
 
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Deleted member 25923

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Wtf, this needs night matches, especially at the US Open. If you're having more interactive crowds, you need night matches.

I wish EA would just get on their horse and make a PS3/360 version. It's sad when Grand Slam tennis has better signature styles and technique than Topspin.
 

westside

Hall of Fame
Just play Topspin 1 just before. Forgot how amazing that game is. So simple, yet so fun. Much better than Topspin 3 IMO
 

dr_punk

Professional
These topspins are a joke. I always go back to the 1st topspin on the original xbox console, and that is far beyond better than any tennis game that has come since.

This franchise and others are a shame to what tennis is represented as in video game culture. Truly.
 
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Finally, some more content.

That said, Tennis Elbow 2011 is badass.
 
Anyone buying at launch? I think I'll hold off till I hear from some player reviews. You can't trust the big name reviewers these days.
 
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Some of us have computers that can't run Full Ace
 

leonidas1982

Hall of Fame
Anyone buying at launch? I think I'll hold off till I hear from some player reviews. You can't trust the big name reviewers these days.
Advertising and claiming to have player signature styles and then the trailers shows the contrary only speaks volume of the game's honesty and grade.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Ahhhhh. Did u try lowering the resolution and all the details?

I have T Elbow on my work computer for that reason :)
Plus its easy to play with a keyboard.
Not sure if that'd work. When I try to install/run (can't remember) I get a error message saying "Open GL drivers missing." I don't remember all of the details, but I think at the time, I saw that i need new video drivers, or something of that nature.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Not sure if that'd work. When I try to install/run (can't remember) I get a error message saying "Open GL drivers missing." I don't remember all of the details, but I think at the time, I saw that i need new video drivers, or something of that nature.
You might just need to install Direct X.
 
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Sounds interesting. What about DLC? Are they actually gonna come through this time?
 
Not too sure I'm gonan buy this at luanch, some decent high profile releases during March. I'm probably gonna end up spending my money on Shogun total war instead and just wait till the end of the year when the price has gone down.
 

AznHylite

Semi-Pro
The attribute distribution is terrible... Since when is Murray's forehand better than his backhand? Do they even watch tennis? :???:
 

Meriko

Rookie
Personally, I think TS4 will be horrible. I was a big fan of TS 1 & 2, as well as VT 3 & 2009, but TS3 was HORRIBLE and this looks pretty much the same. Terrible animations and no fun to play at all. The VT's may be a little "too" arcade-y, but they are crazy fun with beautiful animations and character models. If they add some kind of error system in Virtua Tennis 4, I know I'm going to love it.
 

Pidgeon

Semi-Pro
Personally, I think TS4 will be horrible. I was a big fan of TS 1 & 2, as well as VT 3 & 2009, but TS3 was HORRIBLE and this looks pretty much the same. Terrible animations and no fun to play at all. The VT's may be a little "too" arcade-y, but they are crazy fun with beautiful animations and character models. If they add some kind of error system in Virtua Tennis 4, I know I'm going to love it.
Virtua Tennis 2009 is the WORST tennis game ever !
I bought it, played 2 matches and never played it again.
0,0 % realism
you just hit as hard as you can, no game plan , service is just trying
to hit the top of the bar , ...
really no variation, players springt like usain bolt , the volley system is even more terrible (when u smash on a player he just volleys it back) , ...
ughh
hate this game so much (although VT 3 wasn't that bad ...)

hope TS 4 will have a nice online feat
 

Meriko

Rookie
Yea, I agree, but I still had tons of fun on it online :p I don't understand why people say VT3 is better, it's like the exact same thing?
 
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Attributes are terrible. Fed's serve and speed suck, and Murray's forehand is nowhere near his backhand.
 
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