Toroline

Blade_X

Professional
So….

Wasabi / Enso Pro Vs Wasabi / Wasabi X

The winner is enso pro hybrid for the following reasons:

-a lot more connected feel
-more dwell time…. as a result i had more control and more time to load and hit through the court
-don’t know why but with wasabi pro ball could launch more if i wasn’t careful. Definitely less byte too.

I don’t have anything else to add. Better feel makes everything better and builds your confidence. That’s all!

See you in the final toroline test at least for me: wasabi Vs wasabi/enso.
 

Farbio

Rookie
So….

Wasabi / Enso Pro Vs Wasabi / Wasabi X

The winner is enso pro hybrid for the following reasons:

-a lot more connected feel
-more dwell time…. as a result i had more control and more time to load and hit through the court
-don’t know why but with wasabi pro ball could launch more if i wasn’t careful. Definitely less byte too.

I don’t have anything else to add. Better feel makes everything better and builds your confidence. That’s all!

See you in the final toroline test at least for me: wasabi Vs wasabi/enso.
Great to hear and I will definitely give it a go as well and report back. Have you tried Toro Toro? And how did it compare to Wasabi and Restring Zero?
 

Blade_X

Professional
Great to hear and I will definitely give it a go as well and report back. Have you tried Toro Toro? And how did it compare to Wasabi and Restring Zero?
Yeah see my previous posts. I don’t like toro toro and super toro. These are the strings that offer the most byte from toroline…. direct solinco alternatives. I found them low powered and too aggressive on byte. I respect zero but i couldn’t play with it. It has a very unique feel unlike any other string. If you have a modern fast spin swing path it’s 10/10…..spin,power,curve,ball heaviness…. If you want to hit through the court at least for me i was loosing depth and lots of my balls where landing into the net. This string begs you to hit it with aggressive spin. Wasabi is versatile….. plays like sth between round and shaped.
 

Farbio

Rookie
Yeah see my previous posts. I don’t like toro toro and super toro. These are the strings that offer the most byte from toroline…. direct solinco alternatives. I found them low powered and too aggressive on byte. I respect zero but i couldn’t play with it. It has a very unique feel unlike any other string. If you have a modern fast spin swing path it’s 10/10…..spin,power,curve,ball heaviness…. If you want to hit through the court at least for me i was loosing depth and lots of my balls where landing into the net. This string begs you to hit it with aggressive spin. Wasabi is versatile….. plays like sth between round and shaped.
Great thanks for that and will definitely go back and re-read your prior posts. Thanks again and looking forward to hearing your last play tests
 

RWilke86

New User
Yeah see my previous posts. I don’t like toro toro and super toro. These are the strings that offer the most byte from toroline…. direct solinco alternatives. I found them low powered and too aggressive on byte. I respect zero but i couldn’t play with it. It has a very unique feel unlike any other string. If you have a modern fast spin swing path it’s 10/10…..spin,power,curve,ball heaviness…. If you want to hit through the court at least for me i was loosing depth and lots of my balls where landing into the net. This string begs you to hit it with aggressive spin. Wasabi is versatile….. plays like sth between round and shaped.
Not sure if i missed the info somewhere. In which Racquet are you testing the strings?
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
Will definitely try Wasabi Pommgrenate vs Enso Pro Carbon in my incoming Pure Strike 16x20...

I can compare it to my current setup with Ice Code 120
You and I seem to be trying the same things - like Ice Code 120 in the Strike, have these red torolines set up for my next hybrids. I also REALLY like Lynx Tour mains, Hawk Touch (red) crosses in my Pure Strike.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Is snapper supposed to be like RPM blast with octagonal profile?
As far as I can tell, Snapper is a true octagon (ie. "stop sign" shape), whereas RPM is a "flower petal" with rounded lobes. Slightly different, although a fairly similar effect on the ball.
 

nov

Hall of Fame
Anyone who tried Toroline Wasabi and Toroline Wasabi pro hybrid. Could you describe the difference?
 

TheBoom

Hall of Fame
Anyone who tried Toroline Wasabi and Toroline Wasabi pro hybrid. Could you describe the difference?
Similar string setups. I found wasabi pro to be more predictable and less launchy. Similar spin from both, wasabi pro firms up the string bed nicely, I found wasabi alone pocketed the ball a bit too much for me
 

Blade_X

Professional
it’s over…. almost (try all 3 colors of wasabi) :p

Wasabi full bed is my favourite toroline string. They have created the perfect balance of shaped and round playability. Play flat or with full spin on demand. Feel is semi muted but i can live with that. I agree with the friend above that it pockets much and to me this is one of the things that i love (it pockets and hugs the ball like a baby… due its elasticity not from the byte which is normal and not "solinco firm/aggressive")…. it gives you confidence to dictate.…. along with its high pin point accuracy. I can’t miss….. unlike zero for example. See you on sync thread soon. Wasabi Vs Sync incoming :)
 

nov

Hall of Fame
Guys, i played Toroline Wasabi Pro hybrid and liked this setup. Even my arm isn't bothered with it. Now i can't decide between buying Wasabi Pro Hybrid packs or Wasabi reel. I read that FB wasabi is even softer than Wasabi Pro hybrid. So it's a plus and reel would cost me less, but i only tried Wasabi Pro hybrid. For reference i tried Restring Zero and liked it aswell, but it bothered my arm. Would you advise for me to go Wasabi reel or Wasabi Pro hybrid packs?
 
Nope... not available in Europe...

My favorite so far is

Snapper full bed
Wasabi / Enso Pro

Have also to try

Toro toro full bed
Super Toro / Enso Pro

It's actually available through tennisracketseu - trustful source for both Toroline and Restring ;)

I've played my first real match with Enso Pro yesterday and I am not quite fully convinced yet.
It has a ton of excess power and I feel very confident, but sometimes the ball can sail a bit on you - especially in fast baseline rallies, that can catch up to you a bit :)

Going to try Snapper next - full bed's first, then going for the hybrids ;)
 

Blade_X

Professional
It's actually available through tennisracketseu - trustful source for both Toroline and Restring ;)

I've played my first real match with Enso Pro yesterday and I am not quite fully convinced yet.
It has a ton of excess power and I feel very confident, but sometimes the ball can sail a bit on you - especially in fast baseline rallies, that can catch up to you a bit :)

Going to try Snapper next - full bed's first, then going for the hybrids ;)
That’s why it’s better to test enso as a cross with wasabi. The sail behaviour is reduced by a lot. Still i prefer full bed of wasabi :)
 

Roforot

Hall of Fame
I did not care for snapper mains, but I have enjoyed it in the crosses. A bit more than wasabi X even. Snapper also seems more slippery than enso pro. I get a good 10 hours before it seems to get mushy. Wasabi X seems to help hold stringbed tension better… but I would cut it at 12 hrs since after that point it tends to break…

editted --
Just got some serve practice and drop hits. It's striking how much difference the cross string makes. Enso Pro should be called Enso Pop b/c it adds a neat sound to a clean hit and adds some oomph to your serves.
It seems to me a great string for attacking singles players. I test my rally shot by dropfeeding and hitting atleast 5' over the net to land a few feet inside the baseline and it should bounce into the back fence. With Enso Pro, the ball has much more forward momentum and drive so hitting the back fence was easy, but I had to keep it 5' over the net max to avoid hitting long. Similarily compared to wasabi X and Snapper, it was a lot tougher to hit that sharp dipping angled shot.
As for serves, perhaps there may be less spin, but it's enough to keep the ball in, and the ball really carries the pace so I feel it's just as effective.

Like all things, I have to see how it does w/ live hitting and see what my opponents think.
 
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Blade_X

Professional
If I am right 4G was your go to string. Is it still 4G over wasabi?
Right now i am trying sync vs wasabi. Before 4G i ll try lynx touch which is my favourite head string and rpm rough / 4G rough which i never tried. After that i want to try 4G soft again and the final boss would be against 4G :p. I have a long road ahead and I equally enjoy right now sync and wasabi full bed for different reasons….
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
Playing with toro toro mains, Enso crosses in my pure strike (around 50 lbs) - a little more muted and plasticky than my normal Lynx tour, but excellent pocketing, bite on the ball, and much more powerful than I expected. Powerful in a good way - the bite I’m getting on the ball and the feel from the pocketing allows me to hit out with confidence. I like this setup much better than Enso as a full bed, which I thought was fine, but this just has better bite and overall performance.

Really happy with this hybrid - next up will be wasabi mains, Enso crosses.
 

Marwan Fatta

New User
it’s over…. almost (try all 3 colors of wasabi) :p

Wasabi full bed is my favourite toroline string. They have created the perfect balance of shaped and round playability. Play flat or with full spin on demand. Feel is semi muted but i can live with that. I agree with the friend above that it pockets much and to me this is one of the things that i love (it pockets and hugs the ball like a baby… due its elasticity not from the byte which is normal and not "solinco firm/aggressive")…. it gives you confidence to dictate.…. along with its high pin point accuracy. I can’t miss….. unlike zero for example. See you on sync thread soon. Wasabi Vs Sync incoming :)
I started with a reel of carbon and i found it very stiff. I even gave the remaining of the reel as a gift.
2 days ago a friend gave me the pinky wasabi, today i played with it. I thought I would experience another wrist injury like the Last time. But it was super fun and the comfort was good. Which colour is your favourite?
 

Blade_X

Professional
I started with a reel of carbon and i found it very stiff. I even gave the remaining of the reel as a gift.
2 days ago a friend gave me the pinky wasabi, today i played with it. I thought I would experience another wrist injury like the Last time. But it was super fun and the comfort was good. Which colour is your favourite?
Green only. It’s the softest of them all. And next pink.
 

Casper777

Professional
Love pomegranate and find it soft but haven't tried the other colors...
Is pomegranate supposed to be stiffer than the green??
 

TwinCinema

Professional
So I think I saw somewhere (maybe in this thread) that Toroline themselves recommend stringing the crosses higher than the mains in their hybrids. But many people, as a default, prefer to string the crosses lower than the mains. Have we collectively figured something out about Toroline strings -- especially the Wasabi pro, or even something like toro toro w/ enso -- whether it's better to go higher or lower in the crosses? I feel like I've seen so many posts that state preferences for both variations (say, 50/48 and 48/50) that I'm now tempted to just go the same tension full bed just to split the difference.

I may want to try a setup I've enjoyed in the past (Wasabi pro) in my new Extreme Tour, and the last time I did it I went 48/46 and it was a little too launchy; wasabi is pretty lively and I might want to go as high as 50 in the mains next time (especially for a stick with as open a pattern as the ET). But I don't know whether to try 50/50, 50/48, or 50/52!
 

ryushen21

Legend
Is Absolute just not getting any love from y'all? I think it has been my favorite of the lineup followed by K-Pro. I do like the ideas some of y'all have in terms of these hybrid setups and I will likely grab a few more sets to try out some of those mentioned.
 

Roforot

Hall of Fame
Is Absolute just not getting any love from y'all? I think it has been my favorite of the lineup followed by K-Pro. I do like the ideas some of y'all have in terms of these hybrid setups and I will likely grab a few more sets to try out some of those mentioned.

I wonder if it's hurt b/c the reel is on the 2nd page? Or if the plain black hurts its sales compared to the vibrant color of the other strings?
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
I wonder if it's hurt b/c the reel is on the 2nd page? Or if the plain black hurts its sales compared to the vibrant color of the other strings?
Yeah I hadn't even heard of Absolute until very recently, and now I've got too many strings in my inventory to try ;-)
 

vdsp

New User
So I think I saw somewhere (maybe in this thread) that Toroline themselves recommend stringing the crosses higher than the mains in their hybrids. But many people, as a default, prefer to string the crosses lower than the mains. Have we collectively figured something out about Toroline strings -- especially the Wasabi pro, or even something like toro toro w/ enso -- whether it's better to go higher or lower in the crosses? I feel like I've seen so many posts that state preferences for both variations (say, 50/48 and 48/50) that I'm now tempted to just go the same tension full bed just to split the difference.

I may want to try a setup I've enjoyed in the past (Wasabi pro) in my new Extreme Tour, and the last time I did it I went 48/46 and it was a little too launchy; wasabi is pretty lively and I might want to go as high as 50 in the mains next time (especially for a stick with as open a pattern as the ET). But I don't know whether to try 50/50, 50/48, or 50/52!
I tried Wasabi Pro with crosses 2lbs higher than mains and thought it reduced launch angle more than Id like.

Same tension mains/crosses is what I would do
 

y0035215

Rookie
Right now i am trying sync vs wasabi. Before 4G i ll try lynx touch which is my favourite head string and rpm rough / 4G rough which i never tried. After that i want to try 4G soft again and the final boss would be against 4G :p. I have a long road ahead and I equally enjoy right now sync and wasabi full bed for different reasons….
Apparently we like similar strings. I'm really curious what you think of RPM rough.
 

Blade_X

Professional
Apparently we like similar strings. I'm really curious what you think of RPM rough.
Didn’t like it. For some reason i found it to play very low powered. It’s light on contact. It has the aggressive byte of solincos. Nice feel and touch nevertheless. It was never on my radar to try it but it’s just a favourite string of runnners YouTuber so i gave it a try. I will not continue testing it. Now i am moving to try again hyper g round which i enjoyed much in my first playtest and tour byte soft. And then i will test all three 4G strings and 4G with gut. Also to add on wasabi which is my favourite toroline that i have one small issue…. as it has been mentioned those strings need fast cut to work….. my one hand backhand is totally flat and i need to be careful not to launch the ball when i have a bad contact. Everywhere else it’s perfect for my game but my 1HB to be honest worked better with sync for example.
 
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Didn’t like it. For some reason i found it to play very low powered. It’s light on contact. It has the aggressive byte of solincos. Nice feel and touch nevertheless. It was never on my radar to try it but it’s just a favourite string of runnners YouTuber so i gave it a try. I will not continue testing it. Now i am moving to try again hyper g round which i enjoyed much in my first playtest and tour byte soft. And then i will test all three 4G strings and 4G with gut. Also to add on wasabi which is my favourite toroline that i have one small issue…. as it has been mentioned those strings need fast cut to work….. my one hand backhand is totally flat and i need to be careful not to launch the ball when i have a bad contact. Everywhere else it’s perfect for my game but my 1HB to be honest worked better with sync for example.
How about Solinco Revolution vs Caviar (more lively lineups)? Do you like Rev? I play with Lynx Tour and now Caviar. I find Caviar can be dead suddenly
 

TwinCinema

Professional
Thanks! Have you tried restring zero? How does toro toro compare with zero? Just want to get an idea.

Sorry, I have not. But if you scroll back in this thread I think many people have tried it and compared Restring to Toroline. Also, @dr. godmode has a lot of posts and videos about both string brands and pretty much knows everything. For me, of the Torolines that I've tried, I'd rank them in categories like so:

SPIN
toro > wasabi > caviar

POWER
wasabi > caviar > toro

CONTROL
toro > caviar > wasabi

STIFFNESS (stiffest to softest)
toro > wasabi > caviar

HYBRIDS
Wasabi/Wasabi X: lively, good spin, decent control but not great, string it tighter than usual
toro toro/enso: softer than toro full bed, great spin, good precision, string a little lower than wasabi pro

I have not tried Snapper, Absolute, or Ether, but again there's plenty of info in this thread from people more knowledgeable than me!
 
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fnick851

New User
Toro toro

Sorry, I have not. But if you scroll back in this thread I think many people have tried it and compared Restring to Toroline. Also, @dr. godmode has a lot of posts and videos about both string brands and pretty much knows everything. For me, of the Torolines that I've tried, I'd rank them in categories like so:

SPIN
toro > wasabi > caviar

POWER
wasabi > caviar > toro

CONTROL
toro > caviar > wasabi

STIFFNESS (stiffest to softest)
toro > wasabi > caviar

HYBRIDS
Wasabi/Wasabi X: lively, good spin, decent control but not great, string it tighter than usual
toro toro/enso: softer than toro full bed, great spin, good precision, string a little lower than wasabi pro

I have not tried Snapper, Absolute, or Ether, but again there's plenty of info in this thread from people more knowledgeable than me!
Thank you for sharing!
 

Roforot

Hall of Fame
Playing with toro toro mains, Enso crosses in my pure strike (around 50 lbs) - a little more muted and plasticky than my normal Lynx tour, but excellent pocketing, bite on the ball, and much more powerful than I expected. Powerful in a good way - the bite I’m getting on the ball and the feel from the pocketing allows me to hit out with confidence. I like this setup much better than Enso as a full bed, which I thought was fine, but this just has better bite and overall performance.

Really happy with this hybrid - next up will be wasabi mains, Enso crosses.

I have found myself returning to either Tecnifibre 4s/Enso or Wasabi/Enso.
I recently tried Toro/Toro w/ Enso crosses as it was my Omakase. It's not bad, but I missed the pop and easy spin. It's possible there's potentially a little more spin w/ Toro Toro but it's because I have to swing faster to keep the same sort of pace/depth.
It reminds me of Confidential.
 

Farbio

Rookie
Curious if anyone has tried Super Toro crossed with either Wasabi-X, Enso Pro, or Restring Sync. I have only tried ST crossed with Wasabi-X at 50 lbs in my 23 Vcore 100 and really likes it but wondering everyone's opinion on which you liked best.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Curious if anyone has tried Super Toro crossed with either Wasabi-X, Enso Pro, or Restring Sync. I have only tried ST crossed with Wasabi-X at 50 lbs in my 23 Vcore 100 and really likes it but wondering everyone's opinion on which you liked best.
I haven’t but I tried toro toro crossed with enso in a Vcore 98 and didn’t really like it. Too soft, no control.
 
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