Toroline

TomTennis495

Semi-Pro
Resurrecting this thread as I have hit a couple of Toroline strings lately and I must say I am very impressed. Super Toro is low powered but comfortable with good tension maintenance and spin potential. The new Wasabi string is very comfortable with great feel/touch and pocketing with above average spin. Will try Caviar next.
Wasabi is the Hyper G equivalent?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
The Caviar plays similar to Hyper G but slightly more spin and more lively. It’s comfortable although it’s not a soft string. Good string overall.


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more spin ?? even though it is round poly ? wow. that sounds like Perfection, more power and spin than Hyper G ?
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
Which do you think produces more spin ?? Wasabi or Caviar ?
My caveat is I've only used both strings in hybrids and in both cases the amount of spin seemed comparable. That said, using Big Spin mains with both as cross stings, Wasabi seems to produce the best combination of spin and control. After my second playtest last week, I couldn't resist any longer and ordered a reel of Wasabi.


Wasabi or Caviar ? and which one has more power ? Thank you
Love the explosiveness when the ball comes off the string bed with Wasabi. I really didn't get that feeling/response with Caviar crosses. Maybe I strung Caviar too high the first time out, but as far as power and durability, I was underwhelmed in my first outing with it and until I cut it out. So YMMV, since my frame of reference is playing both in hybrids if you like playing with full beds. I really enjoy Wasabi with BS mains as the combination has an addictive, crisp feel.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
My caveat is I've only used both strings in hybrids and in both cases the amount of spin seemed comparable. That said, using Big Spin mains with both as cross stings, Wasabi seems to produce the best combination of spin and control. After my second playtest last week, I couldn't resist any longer and ordered a reel of Wasabi.




Love the explosiveness when the ball comes off the string bed with Wasabi. I really didn't get that feeling/response with Caviar crosses. Maybe I strung Caviar too high the first time out, but as far as power and durability, I was underwhelmed in my first outing with it and until I cut it out. So YMMV, since my frame of reference is playing both in hybrids if you like playing with full beds. I really enjoy Wasabi with BS mains as the combination has an addictive, crisp feel.
Thank you. I was told by Toroline that Wasabi has more spin but Caviar has more power. is this true ? i bought both. i also bought Caviar at thinnest gauge, 18 g. Hope it isn't too powerful or uncontrollable. I bought Wasabi at 1.23 mm gauge as well
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
Thank you. I was told by Toroline that Wasabi has more spin but Caviar has more power. is this true ?
Yes, I believe so. In my case, Big Spin was doing all the heavy work creating spin on normal groundstrokes. It seems like four-sided/square strings really tames the sometimes inconsistent response with triangle-shaped strings in the mains.


i also bought Caviar at thinnest gauge, 18 g. Hope it isn't too powerful or uncontrollable. I bought Wasabi at 1.23 mm gauge as well
I don't think control or power will be a huge issue for you. Both strings might take getting used to.

Are you going to hit them in a full bed?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Yes, I believe so. In my case, Big Spin was doing all the heavy work creating spin on normal groundstrokes. It seems like four-sided/square strings really tames the sometimes inconsistent response with triangle-shaped strings in the mains.




I don't think control or power will be a huge issue for you. Both strings might take getting used to.

Are you going to hit them in a full bed?
i will hybrid with NRG2. what do you mean by getting used to ? is it super low power ?
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
i will hybrid with NRG2. what do you mean by getting used to ? is it super low power ?
Not super low-powered. I mean - it is not necessarily a bad thing - like with any string change, tension changes or combination of the two, and depending on one's style of play, there are always little adjustments one makes to take advantage of what a setup can do.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Wasabi is the Hyper G equivalent?
For a short period of time, it could be considered that. I experienced significant tension loss and a big change in playability despite playing in conditions where I did not swing as hard as I normally would. See my post #46 here:

 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Not super low-powered. I mean - it is not necessarily a bad thing - like with any string change, tension changes or combination of the two, and depending on one's style of play, there are always little adjustments one makes to take advantage of what a setup can do.
if it is similar to Hyper G but with more power and spin, that is a great string, no matter how you look at it. is this true ?
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
if it is similar to Hyper G but with more power and spin, that is a great string, no matter how you look at it. is this true ?
I find it more similar to Signum Pro Yellow Jacket, and not just because both are yellow strings, because its a little more lively than Hyper-G in my experience but I wouldn't say it has more spin which is probably on par with Hyper-G. Also in my experience Caviar is more comfortable and offers more pocketing than Hyper-G.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I find it more similar to Signum Pro Yellow Jacket, and not just because both are yellow strings, because its a little more lively than Hyper-G in my experience but I wouldn't say it has more spin which is probably on par with Hyper-G. Also in my experience Caviar is more comfortable and offers more pocketing than Hyper-G.
i always felt Hyper G didn't have enough power, and didn't like that. if both of these strings have more power then it is a plus
 

TomTennis495

Semi-Pro
I find it more similar to Signum Pro Yellow Jacket, and not just because both are yellow strings, because its a little more lively than Hyper-G in my experience but I wouldn't say it has more spin which is probably on par with Hyper-G. Also in my experience Caviar is more comfortable and offers more pocketing than Hyper-G.
that’s about a perfect sounding string to me. Looking forward to getting it in the mail. Hopefully soon .
 

antony

Professional
Thank you. I was told by Toroline that Wasabi has more spin but Caviar has more power. is this true ? i bought both. i also bought Caviar at thinnest gauge, 18 g. Hope it isn't too powerful or uncontrollable. I bought Wasabi at 1.23 mm gauge as well
I liked 18G Caviar but I think it lost tension pretty quickly or something, which would make sense with less thick strings. I've played probably 2-3 matches (over 3 or so weeks) with 18G but yesterday during a match I noticed my balls kept flying out on shots I felt usually stay in (lost 1-6 first set), so I switched to my racquet with Super Toro on it and things were fine again (7-5 second set, 10-5 tie break :cool:). The Super Toro I think is a similar gauge to the 16G Caviar (1.23mm vs 1.24mm). I did not have time during play to consider differences between Super Toro and Caviar 16G. Similar enough that I didn't have trouble switching around though
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I liked 18G Caviar but I think it lost tension pretty quickly or something, which would make sense with less thick strings. I've played probably 2-3 matches (over 3 or so weeks) with 18G but yesterday during a match I noticed my balls kept flying out on shots I felt usually stay in (lost 1-6 first set), so I switched to my racquet with Super Toro on it and things were fine again (7-5 second set, 10-5 tie break :cool:). The Super Toro I think is a similar gauge to the 16G Caviar (1.23mm vs 1.24mm). I did not have time during play to consider differences between Super Toro and Caviar 16G. Similar enough that I didn't have trouble switching around though
2 matches with 18G, i cut it out 100 % of the time if it hasn't broken yet. What tension should i string the Caviar 18 G at ??
 

antony

Professional
2 matches with 18G, i cut it out 100 % of the time if it hasn't broken yet. What tension should i string the Caviar 18 G at ??
I don't know! I asked for 59lbs and when I got it TennisTension told me it was at like 50lbs. They (Dick's) have a nice electric stringer and I wanted to give the big box store a chance but the stringer was really bad at stringing. For instance, the crosses were not straightened, he didn't follow written instructions for which strings to put on which racquet, tension was around 48-52lbs when 59-60 was requested. I still have a racquet with 1.24mm Caviar with a few months on it (kept it while the other racquets were restrung) with a proper string job off the stringer at 60lbs and I would bet it still plays better than my 1.16mm Caviar racquet right now.

I have yet to like playing with tension in the forties, either by it being set there or the strings losing tension down to there. I think I like high tension around 59-60lbs and have felt good playing with those racquets as they lost tension down to low 50s. In retrospect, I think I like stringing it high because by the time I get used to it, the racquets have lost tension to where it's a pretty nice experience with the string for me. I played with 16G Hyper-G in an RF97 and loved it, but then it lost tension to the 40s pretty quickly and I didn't like playing with that string anymore.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I don't know! I asked for 59lbs and when I got it TennisTension told me it was at like 50lbs. They (Dick's) have a nice electric stringer but the stringer was really bad at stringing. For instance, the crosses were not straightened, he didn't follow written instructions for which strings to put on which racquet, tension was around 48-52lbs when 59-60 was requested.

I have yet to like playing with tension in the forties, either by it being set there or the strings losing tension down to there. I think I like high tension around 59-60lbs and have felt good playing with those racquets as they lost tension down to low 50s. In retrospect, I think I like stringing it high because by the time I get used to it, the racquets have lost tension to where it's a pretty nice experience with the string for me. I played with 16G Hyper-G in an RF97 and loved it, but then it lost tension to the 40s pretty quickly and I didn't like playing with that string anymore.
LOL,,, ask for 59 lbs and get 50 lbs.............. WOW talk about variance. Those guys at ***** are all high school kids just learning how to string. you are lucky if they don't return your racket Warped:p
 

antony

Professional
2 matches with 18G, i cut it out 100 % of the time if it hasn't broken yet. What tension should i string the Caviar 18 G at ??
I would start at the same tension you like Hyper-G? Maybe try higher as well if you cut out 18G that quickly. Maybe it'll settle at where you like your normal starting tension and last longer.

LOL,,, ask for 59 lbs and get 50 lbs.............. WOW talk about variance. Those guys at ***** are all high school kids just learning how to string. you are lucky if they don't return your racket Warped:p
Unfortunately, I think that was exactly who strung it. I had another friend who just started stringing do a good job with one of my racquets, so I gave him two of my playing racquets to do next and he warped one of the grommets :rolleyes:. Wilson was nice enough to give me $10 credit for another set. Though, since May, they still haven't restocked that grommet and bumper guard set and I'm fairly annoyed that I can't get a new one, despite them saying they'd come out with more in July. Now customer service depending on who you get say ETD is anywhere from October to no date..............
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
I have a set of Super Toro that has been sitting here since I got my sample pack last year. Has anyone played with this string and compare it to any other string that it may remind you of? I'm going to try it myself this week but want to know what tension I should string it at.
 

antony

Professional
I have a set of Super Toro that has been sitting here since I got my sample pack last year. Has anyone played with this string and compare it to any other string that it may remind you of? I'm going to try it myself this week but want to know what tension I should string it at.
I like it a lot! It's fairly similar to Caviar. Good control and shots feel precise. Maybe has more spin than Lux 4G. I'd string at wherever you like it. My racquet came back around 51lbs or so when requested at 59lbs but it was very playable.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Yes, I believe so. In my case, Big Spin was doing all the heavy work creating spin on normal groundstrokes. It seems like four-sided/square strings really tames the sometimes inconsistent response with triangle-shaped strings in the mains.




I don't think control or power will be a huge issue for you. Both strings might take getting used to.

Are you going to hit them in a full bed?
I was bit disappointed with Wasabi. low power to medium power poly. Spin potential was mediocre. it was very good on the volleys though for some reason. anyhow is caviar any better in your opinion ?
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
So I know the focus on here for Toroline is Caviar, Wasabi, Ether, Super Toro....etc but has anyone tried the hybrid packs they offer. While I was ordering a sample ether set I just thought I would try one of the 2 hybrids they have. I choose Bulletproof X Tilt and I have to say I've played with it for 3 hours yesterday in my Gravity Pro and I was extremely impressed. Possibly the most snapback I got from any string combo I have ever used and plenty of spin to go around. Beyond that the feel was outstanding especially in a 100in racquet. Would like to hear from anyone who has tried them.
 
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antony

Professional
So I know the focus on here for Toroline is Caviar, Wasabi, Ether, Super Toro....etc but has anyone tried the hybrid packs they offer. While I was ordering a sample ether set I just thought I would try one of the 2 hybrids they have. I choose Bulletproof X Tilt and I have to say I play with it for 3 hours yesterday in my Gravity Pro and I was extremely impressed. Possibly the most snapback I got from any string combo I have ever user and plenty of spin to go around. Beyond that the feel was outstanding especially in a 100in racquet. Would like to hear from anyone who has tried them.
i bought all the hybrids sets to try but have yet to string any racquets with them. looking forward to it. what tension did you string at?
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
i bought all the hybrids sets to try but have yet to string any racquets with them. looking forward to it. what tension did you string at?
so for Bulletproof X Tilt they have recommended tensions on the package so I strung them up at the highest for each which was 52 on the mains and 50 on the crosses.
 

jugheadfla

Rookie
Played another 2.5 hours today with Bulletproof X Tilt and this combo is still going strong. If there has been any tension loss I can't tell, it is still playing like the first hit from the last time I hit with it. Just seems to do everything very well on top of being extremely comfortable. the description of the set on Toro's website seems to be dead on, very durable and amazing snap back. If there is any notching yet I can't visibly see it. I'm going to keep playing with this combo and see how long I can go before the playability falls off.
 

antony

Professional
Just got a racquet strung with Toroline Absolute 17G and it's great. Played with it for 5 hours yesterday, no complaints so far. A lot like their other strings (Caviar and Super Toro) but softer
 

antony

Professional
I got one of these sample box and want to try a hybrid with caviar mains and absolute cross? Anyone tried this before or think if this is a worthy idea to test?
It is excellent. My favorite string job yet. Perfect blend of spin, control, and smoothness. Durability to be seen
 
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