Blade_X
Professional
I respect the spin potential / generation of ultra cable but i found it super disconnected and muted.
Toroline
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Blade_X
Professional
You switched to 100D ? You should try shift pro. It’s sooooo good!
Thanks for the reply. I ve moved away from lynx tour. Solid string, decent feedback but heavy and kinda harsh.
Well, well, well, look what showed up today. The marketing juju is strong here.... I can't quite see the logo well enough... I think it's called... Toroline? 
Popped a few strings out of their bags -- Snapper, Wasabi X -- looks like we're dealing with some cross-link esters, ala Wilson Revolve, Grapplesnake Tour M8, etc. Will be interesting to see if and by what margin more slippery they are as crosses, as well as the general playability of things like Caviar. Will report back once the playtesting commences.
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Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Toro toro toro toro! Toro toro toro torohhh!!!Well, well, well, look what showed up today. The marketing juju is strong here.... I can't quite see the logo well enough... I think it's called... Toroline?
Popped a few string of the string out of their bags -- Snapper, Wasabi X -- looks like we're dealing with some cross-link esters, ala Wilson Revolve, Grapplesnake Tour M8, etc. Will be interesting to see if and by what margin more slippery they are as crosses, as well as the general playability of things like Caviar. Will report back once the playtesting commences.
FrankyRelax
Professional
Strung up some Snapper tonight. Gonna YOLO it for a match tomorrow.
Tried toro toro and unfortunately felt a sight twinge in my arm the next day.
Tried toro toro and unfortunately felt a sight twinge in my arm the next day.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Yay finally never heard of anyone playing with snapper. Let us know how it snaps
FrankyRelax
Professional
Got the dub and long story short, i will likely switch to this full time. More indepth review tomorrow. If the tension maintenance is good this string may be The Truth
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I've got a few sets coming my way. I'm excited now!
I’ve been testing wasabi/x hybrid in an 18x20 H22 with ok results (prefer hyper g in closed pattern) but played today with green wasabi/wasabi x in an open pattern frame (ezone 98). Great access to spin, good control on groundstrokes and nice pocketing. Very comfortable string combo. Will be my go-to hybrid for open string patterns. Strung at 47m/46x
That is true. I’m guessing it’s a combination of slightly more open pattern and significantly lower swingweight in the ezone.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Which is the BEST string you Toroline got if you want Spin and power ? that's not 4 sided, 6 sided is ok. feeling crisp is a plus. thanks
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
I have met one of the owners and had an hour long conversation about the products vs the market , extremely nice guy and good insight on products and the tennis world.Out of curiosity. Has anyone seen the HQ of Toroline ? Do we have any info/bio of the people running the company ?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Yo dawgs we need moar dawgs snappin the snappah so we can know just how good this string is. So go buy some snapper dawwwgg
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Damn the one Tline string I don't have sitting here and it even matches the PJ of my frame..lol.
What is the ball feel like compared to KPro? KPro for now is my only reference. I like it so far, and would describe it as comfortable and a bit muted.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
My Toroline order arrived yesterday... so I have three sets of the Snapper, a few of the new Wasabi Pink/Wasabi X hybrid to try, the Toro Toro, and an additional reel of the Wasabi Pink.
All stocked up now... all that's left to do is the testing (the best part - although receiving them is fun too). Let the fun begin.
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
Fun packaging! Just got mine too.
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
My First Impressions of Toroline Wasabi (Pink) and Wasabi X,
Both strung at 54 lbs on my modded 2019 Pure Aero (343g strung). My normal strings are Hyper G or Confidential (1.30) at 54 lbs, but I used to use 17 gauge for each.
Wasabi (Pink): "Comfort + Spin"
Spin: I think the major takeaway was that while the spin was really good, I wouldn't say it was game changing. I don't think it's dramatically more than hyper g or confidential (16 or 17 gauge). I knew when hitting I'd get the spin I wanted and if anything, it felt more consistent because the string went back into place. We'll see how that holds up, but I notice that hyper g and confidential get a bit erratic after 3-4 hours of play when they start notching.
Comfort/Feel: Where this string feels unique is in the comfort department. This is by far the most comfortable poly I've hit with in a while, even compared to Volkl Cyclone which I'd consider a soft poly. It really pockets the ball, and while it's still nowhere near as comfortable as a hybrid or multi setup, it removed any discomfort I felt with the Pure Aero.
Power: I feel like this is the weakness of the string. It definitely has more power than other strings I've used, but I feel like it's a bit more inconsistent. While the spin benefits from a consistent string bed, I found it difficult to gauge how hard to hit. It wasn't terrible, but there were a few instances where it felt like I hit the ball the same, but one went in the net and another shot was great. I attribute my difficulty dialing in feel a result of the comfort of the string more than it's inconsistency, but we'll have to see.
Wasabi X: "Vanilla"
Spin: Consistent spin, nothing to write home about and probbaly the least spinny of Wasabi/Hyper G/Confidential, but definitely respectable. Wasabi X isn't shaped and doesn't have texture, so all it's spin comes from "snapback." The level of snapback I think is exaggerated, but it isn't bad by any means. Not why I'd get the string, but it is good enough for a poly, especially at this price point.
Comfort/Feel: Less comfortable than Wasabi, but still more comfortable than my normal string and definitely felt like one of the more comfortable polys you can put in the Pure Aero. Feel is much better than Wasabi, it felt much closer to my normal solinco strings, and responded predictably, which made me feel more comfortable hitting with it. I would like a little more feel, but I think it balances comfort and feel well.
Power: Consistent power. I think it's pretty comparable in this regard to hyper g. Consistent power, nothing too wild, but it's reliable.
Overall, I liked both of these strings a lot. They definitely have attributes that are appealing and at a price point that is great. I'm a little worried at the lack of feel, particularly on Wasabi Pink, but I'm looking forward to throwing together a hybrid of both to see what that can do.
Both strung at 54 lbs on my modded 2019 Pure Aero (343g strung). My normal strings are Hyper G or Confidential (1.30) at 54 lbs, but I used to use 17 gauge for each.
Wasabi (Pink): "Comfort + Spin"
Spin: I think the major takeaway was that while the spin was really good, I wouldn't say it was game changing. I don't think it's dramatically more than hyper g or confidential (16 or 17 gauge). I knew when hitting I'd get the spin I wanted and if anything, it felt more consistent because the string went back into place. We'll see how that holds up, but I notice that hyper g and confidential get a bit erratic after 3-4 hours of play when they start notching.
Comfort/Feel: Where this string feels unique is in the comfort department. This is by far the most comfortable poly I've hit with in a while, even compared to Volkl Cyclone which I'd consider a soft poly. It really pockets the ball, and while it's still nowhere near as comfortable as a hybrid or multi setup, it removed any discomfort I felt with the Pure Aero.
Power: I feel like this is the weakness of the string. It definitely has more power than other strings I've used, but I feel like it's a bit more inconsistent. While the spin benefits from a consistent string bed, I found it difficult to gauge how hard to hit. It wasn't terrible, but there were a few instances where it felt like I hit the ball the same, but one went in the net and another shot was great. I attribute my difficulty dialing in feel a result of the comfort of the string more than it's inconsistency, but we'll have to see.
Wasabi X: "Vanilla"
Spin: Consistent spin, nothing to write home about and probbaly the least spinny of Wasabi/Hyper G/Confidential, but definitely respectable. Wasabi X isn't shaped and doesn't have texture, so all it's spin comes from "snapback." The level of snapback I think is exaggerated, but it isn't bad by any means. Not why I'd get the string, but it is good enough for a poly, especially at this price point.
Comfort/Feel: Less comfortable than Wasabi, but still more comfortable than my normal string and definitely felt like one of the more comfortable polys you can put in the Pure Aero. Feel is much better than Wasabi, it felt much closer to my normal solinco strings, and responded predictably, which made me feel more comfortable hitting with it. I would like a little more feel, but I think it balances comfort and feel well.
Power: Consistent power. I think it's pretty comparable in this regard to hyper g. Consistent power, nothing too wild, but it's reliable.
Overall, I liked both of these strings a lot. They definitely have attributes that are appealing and at a price point that is great. I'm a little worried at the lack of feel, particularly on Wasabi Pink, but I'm looking forward to throwing together a hybrid of both to see what that can do.
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A central reason why I'm betting their stuff will be best used as slick crosses, in a hybrid with a crisp main -- shaped poly, crisp synthetic or nat gut. $$$
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
I definitely want to try a wasabi/confidential hybrid. I feel like that could be gold
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
Idk if would add the much honestly. Confidential, in my experience, is relatively muted as is it. I’d expect the difference between a full bed of Conf and a Was hybrid to be marginal at best and indistinguishable to many players.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Your essay about Snapper is overdue, 10 points off (full letter grade) every day late
Torps
Semi-Pro
They got something going on with Snapper.. only one hit under it’s belt, but I would consider adding this to my normal rotation.
Toro toro has “super toro 1.23” printed on it. Supposedly softer than super toro, though I would not call this a soft string.
What about it do you like/notice the most? Snapback, spin, grip, pop, touch/feel, otherwise?
Torps
Semi-Pro
Snap back.. it plays like a round string so I prefer how this feels compared to say the stiff, grippy feel of toro toro. For anyone who liked poly tour rev beyond its price this would be a suitable alternative. I can usually find rev for cheap though so it’s been full time in my rotation.. going to try toro toro with enso crosses next. They sent free sets of enso with my toro toro order.. apparently it’s one of the owners fav combo.
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
True, but even still confidential has quite a bit more feel than wasabi/wasabi x. That said, I don’t know that it’d be a good combo, but worth a shot ♂️
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
Looking forward to your report hahaha
TwinCinema
Professional
I’ve got the wasabi/wasabi X hybrid in my Blade v8 right now but only hit with it once so far. Needs more time but my initial impression is that it’s more powerful than the controlled polys I’d been using, has very nice access to spin, and should probably be strung a little tighter than you think, to tame it. I have it at 49/46, but would prob go no lower than 51/48 next time. Because if it’s that bouncy on the first session, then whenever it starts to lose tension… yikes
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what about that new string Toro Toro. is that good for spin and power ?
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
Zero/Wasabi X is not as good as it seems. Having tried Zero both as a cross and as a main, I think the play is definitely to use Zero as a cross. When you have Zero/WasX, you can see that WasX moves more freely against Zero than Zero does against WasX, so you end up with a lot of cross movement, which might be good for Tomic, but it's not the best for topspin. This is also bad for me, because my experience remains that the main string dominates the feel of the bed, so you are stuck with Zero's crappy feel without the wacky spin.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Pleaaassee come back! The one person who knows this string instead of reviewing it "tomorrow" dissappeared forever! Of course, just my luck. Story of my life. Besides your essay is way overdue and if you wait too long you'll get 0 points for it!!
FrankyRelax
Professional
Lol. Still around. I wanted to get a couple more hours with the string this weekend to get a real feel for it
Torps
Semi-Pro
The only thing new is the color.. Great spin and very grabby, power level is low/mid. Reminds me of Solinco revolution.
I’m about 5 hours into both snapper and toro toro/enso pro hybrid. I like both, besides how they feel. After the first hit, the elasticity drops off a cliff and they kinda feel like garbage. They’re still performing well enough I prob wouldn’t need to restring, but I’m moving on.. snip snip.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
i agree, i am trying the Grapplesnake next ,, tour m8 or sniper ? not sure which is better ?
Both are solid strings. Sniper felt surprisingly stiff to me and tension fell off enough after 3-4 hours that I cut it out. M8 has nicer feel and held tension much better. I will be trying some Alpha next, probably as M8 mains and Alpha cross.
I also got a set of Game Changer and Cube. Both are square and have extreme edges. Should be spin monsters.
delosalpes
Rookie
My first impressions this morning on full beds of Wasabi and Caviar in my Percept 97s
Wasabi:
Power 3.5/5
Spin 4/5
Consistency 1.5/5
Feel 2.5/5
Caviar:
Power 3.5/5
Spin 3/5
Consistency 4/5
Feel 3.5/5
Wasabi:
Power 3.5/5
Spin 4/5
Consistency 1.5/5
Feel 2.5/5
Caviar:
Power 3.5/5
Spin 3/5
Consistency 4/5
Feel 3.5/5
Fighting phoenix
Professional
I've played with both and I'd generally concur, although I probably like Caviar slightly more than you do.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
which had more spin ?
Dont agree on the lack of consistency of Wasaby... it may not be a 5 like a round poly but 1.5 is a bit harsh
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
I generally agree with your wasabi take, though I’d say maybe more 2.5 on the consistency. I imagine the lower you go in tension the worse it gets.
Personally wouldn’t string wasabi less than 54/55 ish
delosalpes
Rookie
I liked caviar quite a bit. I'm string up my Percept 97H, the hefty boy, tonight. But increase the tension up from 22kg to 23 or 24.
delosalpes
Rookie
That could be it. I'll try it again at a higher tension. I normally string at 22kg/48lbs.
I can't say there was a huge difference between them with spin. I played both as hybrid mains with syn gut crosses.
Id definitely strung Wasabi higher... I like Lynx Tour at 50lbs on my Percept 97; with Wasabi I do 55 lbs to get a similar level of control
