Toroline
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Kinda the same for all brands' poly portfolios.
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
Kinda. But Solinco for example is pretty well segmented/defined. Even Luxilon is better at it
Agreed. They need a table comparing their own strings and what are they best for
Yeah. But Toroline's range is still pretty small and I think their audience is a lot of people like this forum who like experimenting, testing, etc. and it's nice to know what type of string works best for what situation.
I have a feeling they will get there though. Their new 'Omakase' service, where you fill out a quiz and they send you strings, asks for whether you like spin, power, control, durability, feel... etc. So they are thinking about it internally, just need to add more public details about what each string and combo is best for. But it's still a pretty small company by the looks of things, so I imagine they're busy on other things than updating the website!
TheBoom
Hall of Fame
I agree. It feels like they're pumping options out to see what sticks and then they'll drop product lines and distinguish others as they go. The idea of the 'Omakase' service is interesting, but TBH I hate the idea of someone picking strings for me and I feel like most players I know aren't for it.
The difference between Toroline strings and the others is the slick coating doesn't wear off, but other strings coating wears off after 2-4 hours.
I used to use PTP and PT Fire as cross for my hybrids, but now any toroline strings coating lasts longer than them.
Not talking about other characteristics and the feel since they are highly personal, but the long-lasting coating is the best, Restring Zero is also good in that department.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
For me wasabi x seems like it doesn’t even have a slick coating. It’s not matte by any means but it’s similar to a string like kirschbaum pro line x. It’s shiny but not slick. If you do your own stringing it’s pretty apparent.
Yeah, I string my own racquets.
Have you used it? Or you’re just assuming from the look?
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
It definitely does not have a slick coating.
I ordered some strings directly from Toroline to be delivered to Germany. I had to pay shipping costs (around 17 €) and an additional tax amount (18 €) directly to the DHL delivery person. I didn't expect that, so it wasn't worth it.
There is a tennis shop in Portugal that delivers strings such as Restring Zero, Confidential 3.0, and Toroline Strings to European countries. You can find them by searching for tennisracketseu on Insta.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
I have a mini reel and have strung about 4 sticks with it so far.
I'm on my second reel.
Based on your experience, Yonex strings as a cross lasted longer than Wasabi X?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Then why is it supposed to be a great cross string for tons of snapback?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Just checked torolines site it says Wasabi X features a round profile coated with a slick surface for maximum snapback and spin.
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
I mean its round and smooth, and doesn't seem to get prematurely damaged so that works well for a cross. WX has been pretty easy to string as a cross, low friction. And when I string it I dont feel the need to wash my hands immediately of an oily substance like with Zero or Grapplesnake M8.
I find Ghostwire and Confidential 3.0 blue to be more slick, but I dont have scientific data to prove it. But maybe worth setting up sometime.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Yes. So far I prefer poly tour pro over wasabi x.
I've been playing with Wasabi green in mains and ghostwire in crosses of my Blade 98 V8 16M. Favorite so far. I'm currently comparing this set up to my Blade Pro V8 16M with Wasabi green in mains and Wasabi X in crosses. Initial thoughts are that Ghostwire is slicker and slightly more comfortable than Wasabi X. Wasabi X is not harsh by any means, but perhaps Ghostwire feels gummier and slicker at the same time. Not plasticky, not muted.
Of course YMMV
Of course YMMV
If your preference is based on feel, I agree. I did a comparison test with my Ezone 98. I usually strung it with PT Strike in the main and PTP Yellow cross, but after 4 hours, it started moving out of place and I saw the 'dent' on the strings. If I move the main, it won't return to the same place. Then I tried this setup with Wasabi X as a cross. After 10 hours, the mains are still moving back, The tension did drop a bit, but the snapback was still really good.
I do prefer the PTP feel, better than Wasabi X. If I have time to string my racquet after every 4-hour hit, I would use PTP. Otherwise, I do appreciate the longevity of the Wasabi X. But strings are highly personal, go with what works for you.
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ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Toroline is so bad
Blade_X
Professional
Hype or in a good way ?
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
jguttentag
New User
Anyone have tension recommendations for K POP/PRO? I’m reaching the end of my tour sniper reel which I string at 45-46 on my Percept 97D. I bought a set of K POP and PRO to try, but I see most people on this thread stringing theirs in the 50s. Not sure if that will be too harsh of a change for me tension wise.
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
jguttentag
New User
His elbow is built differentKarue - "62 lb"
I do 54-55 on P97... you can probably get away we 50-52 on the P97D
yourtennisfit
Semi-Pro
Well - in a 100D that tension actually isn’t too bad
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Forget yo elbow it's all about control dawwwgg
soulkeeper
New User
Prefer it more than tour hex/X?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
@FrankyRelax how does X cross improve snapper?
FrankyRelax
Professional
I haven't tried a full bed of snapper yet, but I'm a fan of slick round polys in crosses.
I hypothesize that the differences will be negligible but I'll report back. I've bought some more sets of snapper to keep trying it at different tensions and frames
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Since Toro Toro is a stiff string, has anyone crossed it with something like HIT Pro?
julianokay
New User
Don't know if this is relevant, but I've been trying out Super Toro crossed with MSV Swift 1.25 and have been really enjoying it. Like it better than Super Toro full bed.
Keeps the precision but softens up the stringbed nicely while still playing pretty crisp and controlled.
delosalpes
Rookie
Interesting! I just strung up my Percept 97 with Wasabi and MSV Swift 1.25. I didn’t like wasabi in full bed so I order some wasabi X but it’s taking forever to get here to me in Europe. So I thought f**k it, let’s try it with Swift.
stringtheory
Rookie
I’ve tried Toro Toro with Enso Pro as well and they play really well today. While Enso Pro is not exactly soft, it does soften up the stringbed slightly compared to full Toro Toro
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
Right now I am enjoying Super toro with Enso Pro. It does exactly as you describe perfectly. Id like to try Toro Toro full bed to see if it has the same response as my hybrid. (though I like the blue/pink combo).
julianokay
New User
I actually tried Super Toro crossed with Wasabi X, but prefer the feel with Swift. Swift doesn't provide as much snapback, but to me it just felt like it had a more crisp response.
jguttentag
New User
Anyone try a full bed of snapper yet? My set comes this week and I am not sure if I want to try snapper first or K pop/pro
HypnoticLasagna
Rookie
Stringing it up today or tomorrow.
FrankyRelax
Professional
delosalpes
Rookie
Good to know. And Wasabi with Swift is a winner!
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Happy to hear these things since I have a reel of Swift lying around, and now I can use it paired with Toro and Wasabi!
delosalpes
Rookie
As an aside, I know I’m not the first person the say this but this whole focus on maximizing snap back is perhaps misguided and overrated. Yes, I want my mains to snap back but does having them snap back a millisecond faster or whatever provide any real benefit perhaps at the cost of other string attributes, say like ball bite, feel, comfort, etc? So long as my mains in fact snap back I’m happy and move on.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Same
