ADHD?
You also specialize in psychiatry? Damn.. you guys are talented.
You also specialize in psychiatry? Damn.. you guys are talented.
B/c learning technique is more fun then improving movement/conditioning.
@user92626 our conversation actually started here, where you implied we were trying to figure out “how’s” of basic stroke. I asked what you meant, and since you said “fh bh serve volley”, I responded how it’s totally ok to figure out how’s of these strokes through years of progressing.
What do you mean by "smacking the back of the ball to the service box"? I think that would mean 100 things to 100 different people unfortunately. You mean a flat shot with no spin? What comes to mind is the wrist snap idea where you're supposed to snap it down. But there is spin on it because you're making contact while you're rising. I don't fully get the serve anyway so I won't comment on how to do it.
Just like an overhead smash. I’m hitting the back of the ball ( actually a little above the equator in my mind) to send it down into the box. That’s all and won’t discuss it any further because it’s so obvious to me. I don’t want to trigger people again but I actually think everyone hits down on the ball regardless of what they’re saying or thinking!
Toss at 13 more or less Like guy You posted and majority of the tour do
Personally I do it to reduce variances - I think at our level you're gonna struggle more if you have an off day or if there's wind. But I always adjust instruction to how someone receives information and how much body control they have, so if it doesn't work for them, try something different
Definitely got the Tsitsipas going lol, I've been working on it more in last few months, slow and steady
Stand corrected... it is Nick K, not Jordon, who is NOT swinging down on those serves. It might appear that he is doing so but, I assure you, it is an illusion.Jordan is not. Nick is.
I really don't care who says what about this. I started hitting down into the court and my serve turned into something else. That's proof for me.
www.feeltennis.net
That’s the definition of hitting down on the ball.
Nah, pretty much all decent players employ a parabolic toss. Roger's parabola is wider than most -- especially for 2nd serves. Pete Sampras had a higher toss than Roger but his parabola was a bit narrower:
Nonsense. Odd definition. Hitting down would suggest that the racket face is traveling in a downward direction for its collision with the ball. Not happening.
He didn’t read my link which explains explicitly with high speed shots that the racquet swing is not going down and it is the body tilt that makes the racquet face be down at contact. Also what helps to teach a player to swing with good acceleration and get good spin for control - telling them to swing up or down? That is the key point that coaches focus on.
too blurry, and inconclusive.
Can’t draw those conclusions from this video. Not enuff frames. The 6000 fps video of Adam K is a much better view.
Yeah need to hit down after it hit the ball. Theres no other way except of.the situtation: a) youre late - ball is to much in front
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Topspin will also be facilitated by contacting a falling ball — as opposed to hitting the ball at the peak of the toss (a brief period of time where the ball is neither moving up or down).
When the CP is very far forward, as it often is for an OH smash at the net, it is possible to swing down on the ball. However, for the serve, the racket is either still moving upward or it is (nearly) horizontal as you have indicated.Yeah need to hit down after it hit the ball. Theres no other way except of.the situtation: a) youre late - ball is to much in front
b) when You throw a racket into the sky
c) Youre higher than Isner
On this wideo on contact point racket is exactly 90 degrees to the ground.
And yes You hit up rest is a follow trough
But if You think You hit down and You serve better - good for You
Only in your mind / dreams.
Of course its possible but we are talking about optimal and controlled contact point not some deviations.
If C’s thinking / belief results in an improved & reliable serve for himself, that’s fine.Of course its possible but we are talking about optimal and controlled contact point not some deviations.
But like i said Someones serve is not my problem. If something works for someone. That's ok
Youre right but i think everyone here can see his video's and decide if he is a serve expert they need or.not
No, it's not. When serving, you can close the face slightly on contact and still have the stringbed move out or upwards instead of downwards. You do it all the time on your forehand where the face is very very slightly closed but moving L to H through contact. It's the same on the serve but the L to H angle is not as steep.
These days I feel compelled to post in the Tips section only when I see this kind of issue also. Otherwise it seems like most of the conventional coaches have been driven away from the Tips section and it has become a ‘Wild, Wild West’ of crazy, new ideas for teaching and playing tennis dreamed up by rec players who don’t play at an advanced level or teach anyone. And if someone posts a conventional textbook idea to improve or break down checkpoints for a shot, it is too boring prompting no debate and hence every new tip has to be wild and crazy!
How would you define your Y axis? Typically, at contact on the serve, the upper torso is tilted forward while the larger part of the body (below the waist) is closer to vertical. Federer 1st serve contact:
Cuz it’s a challenge and it amuses me. His perception is a great exercise in “trying to prove science wrong”.
Wow! So many self claimed tennis experts in this place! Are they all shorter than 170cm?
You rely on words, I rely on actions.
Again what I’m talking about is which direction/angle the racket face is moving THROUGH the ball. It’s very obvious the racket travels up first (as you also pointed out that it’s a circular motion). Hitting down is about the movement of the racket face at and after contact. So yes, down for the flat, up for the kick, forward/down for the slice.
Don’t get stuck with that. The thread shifted more towards hitting down on the ball. Obviously I didn’t mean straight in front like arm 90 degrees to the baseline but much more angled than parallel to the baseline like Federer’s.
SA, one question.Wow! So many self claimed tennis experts in this place! Are they all shorter than 170cm?
You rely on words, I rely on actions.
