Tour is back: Strong Era again?

Yes or No?

  • Yes Sir sooo strong... now

  • hasnt been this strong since 04-07

  • I just cant with you.... i cant.


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Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
Fed had to fight a lot to beat some Evans.
He will need one week to rest, when is he playing again?
 
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PETEhammer

Guest
Strong era again.
Federer is Palpatine of tennis.
Djokovic is Darth Vader.
And Nadal is Darth Maul.

Palpatine is the strongest Sith Lord, and has a winning h2h in duels with the other 2, as well as everyone else in the photo, so your analogy breaks down.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
2001-2006 - vacuum era
2007 - transition
2008-2016 - strong era
2017-2018RG - weak vulture era
2018W-present - strong era
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
LOL. So Nadal winning RG 2017 is weak era, but Djokovic winning his only RG title in 2016 avoiding Nadal is "strong era".
Djokovic defeated fellow ATG Murray.
I suppose Nadal did defeat Wawrinka and Thiem so it’s only semi weak.

Him being so good on clay makes his RG titles seem weaker than they are.

Wimbledon 2017 and USO 2017 are certainly very weak titles.
 

pedro94

Rookie
2001-2006 - vacuum era
2007 - transition
2008-2016 - strong era
2017-2018RG - weak vulture era
2018W-present - strong era
Djokovic defeated fellow ATG Murray.
I suppose Nadal did defeat Wawrinka and Thiem so it’s only semi weak.


Him being so good on clay makes his RG titles seem weaker than they are.

Wimbledon 2017 and USO 2017 are certainly very weak titles.
Novak beating his personal pigeon Murray (on clay) --> strong era
Rafa beating Thiem and Wawrinka (RG champion defeating peak Djokovic 2 years prior) --> semi weak era

 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Novak beating his personal pigeon Murray (on clay) --> strong era
Rafa beating Thiem and Wawrinka (RG champion defeating peak Djokovic 2 years prior) --> semi weak era

If it makes you feel better, 16/17 RG are about the same, 7/10 decent slams. Also Murray on clay defeated Djokovic in rome weeks before so he is no mug.

the point is, overall Fedal vultured in 2017/early 2018 with Novak out the picture.
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
If it makes you feel better, 16/17 RG are about the same, 7/10 decent slams. Also Murray on clay defeated Djokovic in rome weeks before so he is no mug.

the point is, overall Fedal vultured in 2017/early 2018 with Novak out the picture.
Meanwhile, Novak manages the impressive feat of vulturing even with the other two in the picture for the most part now.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
If it makes you feel better, 16/17 RG are about the same, 7/10 decent slams. Also Murray on clay defeated Djokovic in rome weeks before so he is no mug.

the point is, overall Fedal vultured in 2017/early 2018 with Novak out the picture.
Yes, about the same. Because 2016 Djokovic was beating 2017 Nadal at RG...

Djokovic vultured RG 2016. He won his only RG title avoiding the King of clay. 2016 RG was a weak slam.

2017 RG was not weak, it was just another day in the office for Nadal. I mean it was peak or near-peak Nadal. He was beating any player in front of him in that tournament. Put peak Borg, peak Djokovic, peak Federer, peak LeBron James... it doesn't matter. No one was stopping 2017 Nadal at RG.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Yes, about the same. Because 2016 Djokovic was beating 2017 Nadal at RG...

Djokovic vultured RG 2016. He won his only RG title avoiding the King of clay. 2016 RG was a weak slam.

2017 RG was not weak, it was just another day in the office for Nadal. I mean it was peak or near-peak Nadal. He was beating any player in front of him in that tournament. Put peak Borg, peak Djokovic, peak Federer, peak LeBron James... it doesn't matter. No one was stopping 2017 Nadal at RG.
Yes your overall point is correct, but it doesn’t make his opponents strong either.
 
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PETEhammer

Guest
Yes, about the same. Because 2016 Djokovic was beating 2017 Nadal at RG...

Djokovic vultured RG 2016. He won his only RG title avoiding the King of clay. 2016 RG was a weak slam.

2017 RG was not weak, it was just another day in the office for Nadal. I mean it was peak or near-peak Nadal. He was beating any player in front of him in that tournament. Put peak Borg, peak Djokovic, peak Federer, peak LeBron James... it doesn't matter. No one was stopping 2017 Nadal at RG.
"Vultured" is too strong a word to describe Novak's RG 2016 win. Of course he took advantage of Rafa's absence, but he still did beat Murray after all. For example, how would you describe Federer's RG 2009 victory, where he beat no one who was at the time a slam champion?
 
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