Tourna 300-CS Stringing Machine - Initial Impressions

Merkaffe

Rookie
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Arvin, does your 300cs have a gripper adjustment? I'm guessing none of the 300cs stringers do. If yours doesn't, have you noticed any crimping of the strings by the gripper?
 

satchmo_d

Rookie
I have a 600-ES which is basically the identical unit but with an electronic head. There's no adjustment on the gripper at all - it's considered "self adjusting." It does mark up the strings a bit, I notice it the most on thicker multis, but I've never had any issues with premature wear or been asked about it by anyone I've strung for.
 

RedCab

New User
Just acquired a used Tourna 300-cs and as I'm new to stringing wanted to show other newbies 2 little enhancements that help a lot....
1) Replaced the flat feet with 4 locking castors off Amazon for $18. Now I can roll the stringer around the house. The castor stem is size M8 x 25 and screws right in.
2) I found the base clamp markings hard to read and a bit confusing, so I got out the green and red sharpies to mark those lever positions and now it's obvious whether they're locked or unlocked!

I'd post pics except can't figure out how to post an image (clicking the "insert image" leads me to a dialog to insert a link, not pick an image off my device).
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Just acquired a used Tourna 300-cs and as I'm new to stringing wanted to show other newbies 2 little enhancements that help a lot....
1) Replaced the flat feet with 4 locking castors off Amazon for $18. Now I can roll the stringer around the house. The castor stem is size M8 x 25 and screws right in.
2) I found the base clamp markings hard to read and a bit confusing, so I got out the green and red sharpies to mark those lever positions and now it's obvious whether they're locked or unlocked!

I'd post pics except can't figure out how to post an image (clicking the "insert image" leads me to a dialog to insert a link, not pick an image off my device).
You must upload your image to an image hosting site capture the link and post the link in you post. I now use Imgur.com for hosting but there are others like Flickr
 

Crimsonchen

Rookie
For those that have the 300 CS and the Wise 2086, did ya'll need an adaptor for the wise? or does it fit fine? Thinking about upgrading to this set up. Thanks!
 

USMC-615

Hall of Fame
For those that have the 300 CS and the Wise 2086, did ya'll need an adaptor for the wise? or does it fit fine? Thinking about upgrading to this set up. Thanks!
Don’t quote me on this concerning the 300-CS, but if you run the adapter plate, you’re likely to lose 360 deg rotation of the turntable. I would have with my Gamma Progression ST II, so I opted not to buy it. The adapter plate adds roughly 2” in height to the top of the crank arm, then the Wise mounts to it. I’d run a 2 or 4 ft level across the frame supports and eyeball it, check and see if you have enough room to clear. The Wise should mount to the crank arm w/o the adapter…just a matter of pulling string tension level with the frame/grommets w/the adapter, instead of a slight downward angle w/o the adapter.
 
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Rogael Naderer

Semi-Pro
Hi everyone, slightly unrelated question but prompted by the pictures of the Tourna, I have a Tyger string profi 52 drop weight machine and the turntable base, clamp bases, mounting arms and posts / supports are exactly the same as on the 300/600. Would anyone know where to source Tourna parts such as these?

Additionally I need a new tension scale sticker for the dropweight arm as whoever owned it before me tightened the drop weight screw on the sticker like a fool. I'm not sure however if this was a Tourna / Tyger shared part.

Beautiful looking machine btw and I'll copy that trick of marking the clamp bases as I also am always getting confused as to which way is lock/unlock.
 

jim e

Legend
Hi everyone, slightly unrelated question but prompted by the pictures of the Tourna, I have a Tyger string profi 52 drop weight machine and the turntable base, clamp bases, mounting arms and posts / supports are exactly the same as on the 300/600. Would anyone know where to source Tourna parts such as these?

Additionally I need a new tension scale sticker for the dropweight arm as whoever owned it before me tightened the drop weight screw on the sticker like a fool. I'm not sure however if this was a Tourna / Tyger shared part.

Beautiful looking machine btw and I'll copy that trick of marking the clamp bases as I also am always getting confused as to which way is lock/unlock.
You may want to send a message to @Irvin , as he is the expert on the Tourna machines.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Based on the glowing recommendations from Arvin and some others, I also picked up a 300 cs. Ordered it from Clarke Distributing, who gave me the best price and had it on my doorstep in just a few days. I also liked the Alpha Apex and Gamma 5000 machines, but with the way everyone else (particularly Alpha) does shipping, they came to a few hundred more that I couldn't justify.

This was a replacement for an elderly Alpha Pioneer III, which is kind of like a poor man's Neos with a drop weight. I've done a few racquets now, so would like to add my first impressions as well.

I really like the self leveling feature as Arvin described. I was worried at first since it didn't have the positive hold down, but racquets are very very secure. The crank was within a pound of tension from my calibrator, and easy to adjust to put it right on. The clamps work really nicely, and I have no real desire to have the gravity assist feature--I'd rather be able to torque them down. The turntable is smooth, love the lock. Works so much faster than my old drop weight machine.

I do have some suggestions and criticisms for both Xpider and Tourna. First, I am going to assume that as with most East Asian production, the design comes from the buyer and they build to print. Apparently this is very similar to one of the Eagnas machines and the old Jazz model, so Tourna may have just inherited the design. I've done enough work with Asian production to say that any engineers that trust details to the producers are either fools or are very naive. There are several cases in point with the 300 cs where Tourna needs to go back to the producer and tell them how to do things correctly. Here we go:

1) Stapeltonj and Struggle had a discussion about the unit being wobbly. True enough about the feet, but part of this is just sloppy production. The square post for the main unit fits into the stand with a LOT of slop--nearly 5 mm clearance, so that it is nearly impossible to tighten it down completely. This is just sloppy production, but easy enough to fix with a roll of duct tape to increase the size of the tail so it fits in snugly.

2) Along with 1), they advertise that the height is adjustable. Yes, but you can only get about 5 cm high to low, which is hardly worth talking about. Adding another 20 cm or so to the tail would actually allow some reasonable height adjustment and stability to boot, and add essentially nothing to cost or weight.

3) The tool tray is nice, but again suffers from fit and finish issues. The tray opening to bolt on is about 4 mm larger than the post, so in order to clamp it down solidly you end up bending the bosses on the tray. You might say that the washers go in the inside next to the post, but this makes it impossible to assemble. Once it is torqued down it is nice and solid though.

4) The hook for a string reel below the tray is really not very useful and gets in the way. Replaced with a bolt so it doesn't snag on things.

5) They put a stop on the front side of the crank so that you can't get the crank too close to the unit. An easy mod (about 15 minutes with a drill press and tap) is to put another M6 x 1.0 hole about 9 cm closer. This lets you use the full range of the gear track, which is handy to get closer when you are doing crosses and small jobs like racquetball racquets. I keep a 6 mm thumbscrew handy to put into the original hole when I am doing large racquets.

Saying all that, I think the Tourna 300 cs was the best deal around for the capability, ease of use and solid construction. I have no regrets about buying it, find it much much easier and faster than its predecessor, and plan on getting years of good use out of it.
Can you show me how you use the duct tape to reduce wobble. I have a Gefen Sports version GS2000 (with Wise 2086) which looks the same. No problems stringing rackets and really like the clamping but the slight wobble is a bit disconcerting and I don’t like to risk over tightening the four bolts of the square post as I have a history of snapping things.
 

struggle

Legend
^^^^

1) Struggle hasn't seen anything more than a picture and never mentioned wobble on this machine.

Just to clarify.

In fact, I've actually never mentioned wobble on any machine.....to my knowledge. Or have I?

Maybe i had a senior moment...
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
^^^^

1) Struggle hasn't seen anything more than a picture and never mentioned wobble on this machine.

Just to clarify.

In fact, I've actually never mentioned wobble on any machine.....to my knowledge. Or have I?

Maybe i had a senior moment...
Actually I don’t think my vinyl floor is perfectly flat.
 
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