Discussion in 'Strings' started by SteveI, Dec 25, 2011.
This reminds me of the classic, "Can I ask you a question?"
Nope not me. I just bought the 1st reel of BHB7 17G to get this stuff tested on TW. I sold all the sets in about 3 hours..and did not keep enough for myself. I have no special deal with Tourna...just thought it was a nice idea and fun for everyone to test out a new string that really interested me...
I made no money on that reel.. and in fact did not even break even...
BTW... that last set of string I sent your way never came back to me.. I am guessing some postal worker is doing his own playtest of BHB7...LOL
Have a good one..
BTW... can I ask you a question?...
I am having good results 52/48... At 56/52 the bed was a bit too stiff for my tastes. I enjoy a somewhat softer stringbed. You may have different needs.
Was thinking of getting this string also. Can anyone tell me, will I get more spin from a full bed of BHB7 than from a hybrid of Klip Natural gut in the mains and BHB7 cross, psoobily at 55/52 tension?
What would the power also be?
I would think you would get a lot more spin out of the full bed of BHB7 than the hybrid. Power, on the other hand, is debatable.
I still don't understand how some people are getting more spin with the BHBR than the BHB7. Maybe it is a different kind of spin, but BHB7 gives me just as much spin as the best poly's i've used.
BHB7 Mains 52 lbs + Gosen OG Micro 17 @ 55 lbs feels good. No elbow pain at all.. Great overall.
i found that stringing the X higher takes out a lot of the BHB7 characteristic advantages,
and making the sweetspot very small, resulting in poor control etc..
55/53 is another world. i'll probably stick with this.
i was tempted to string the x even 2-3 lbs lower, but decided to test this first.
i like the bhb7 even more knowing theres no more elbow pain by decreasing the tension. I would restring my other racket reversed and see if it is even better.. ill do my mains with Gosen 17g 55lbs and bhb7 cross at 52lbs today. Though im used to stringing my racket at 58+ i personally believe in this case anything over 52 on BHB7 gave me discomfort. At one point i tried the BHB7 on the mains at 58lbs - 56lbs - 54lbs and gave me slight elbow pain.
sorry, by crosses i meant a multi string, and BHB7 in mains.
Kind of Disappointed with BHB7 now... It broke on me after about 10 hours of hitting in a hybrid with OGSM 18g in the crosses. I have NEVER broken polyester before... I also broke my BHS/OGSM Hybrid right after that, which I played on a lot more, but kind of surprised me because it didn't feel dead or anything like that.
What gauge are you using on the BHB7? Recommend 16 if you aren't using it already. I broke my BHB7 quicker than some of the other polys I use also, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing..especially if performance stays consistent over that time frame (which it did). A lot of the other polys will lose a great deal of feel after a few hours anyway.
Stringing BHB7 is a lot easier than BHBR too, so I don't mind stringing a bit more often. I strung two racquets with full BHBR last night and by the end of the second I was ready to throw it out. If you can keep it straight, it's not a big deal
if you're using BHB7 17 gauge then the 16 will be perfect for you. it's not really thick as 16. almost like 17.
Yeah, I was using 17, guage, but I think BHS 17 fits my game a bit better I'm more of an all court player and I hit pretty flat at times. Especially big flat serves.
but you didn't try the 16, did you? please try.
A few questions based on the thread.
1. How many hours of play are you getting out of the BHB7 (and if you've used BHBR, how much did you get out of that)?
2. I'm using a 16x18 frame (Yonex RQis 1 Tour XL) and I've had a couple folks here recommend 16g instead of 17g, but I don't know why the 16 would be better. Ideas?
3. I currently have a hybrid setup, BHBR 17g in mains, BHB7 17g in crosses, and the spin is filthy, but it's a little lower power than I'd like. Would swapping the mains and crosses make the power more or even less?
This stuff is amazing; if I can figure out how to get enough power on my serve to hold up and if my elbow holds up I'm ready to start buying reels of it up.
1. Not sure how many hours i'm getting on average yet. First set lasted me about 5-6 hours.
2. The 16 gauge pretty much looks like a 17 gauge- it is that thin. You definitely want to go 16.
3. I think you'd probably get less power with BHB7 in the mains and BHBR in the crosses. That's the hybrid i'm going to be using this weekend. BHBR is higher powered. You are the only person I have heard that says it is low power. Go full bed of BHBR or drop tension if you want more power.
What tension did you use
bhbr mains is more power. Bhb7 is cutting slice spin: bhb7/bhbr. 17g is ok if you don't or can't keep it in anyway.
J Aces, I went 50/47. Thoughts?
I may buy a reel of BHBR and try it as a full bed first to see if that's my cup of tea (and if my arm can take it; I seem to recall reading BHB7 is a good bit easier on the arm than BHBR).
BMR, I'm used to playing with Wilson NXT17 or Babolat Tonic, so any poly would probably feel low powered to me. I love the low power on groundstrokes. I just have to learn to get more plow through from my service motion and I'll be all set!
10 hrs is really good. i got all of ~4 hrs out of mine. snapped the 2nd main right in the middle sweet spot. started going dead and the mains were moving all over at the 3 hr mark. from 3 hrs onward, i got alot less spin but directional control was still surprisingly good right up until it snapped.
i got ~4 hrs out of my hybrid setup of BHB7/Polystar Energy. played really well for the first 2 hours. started to lose some spin after 2 hrs. BHB7 mains started moving all over at 3 hrs. even then, i was still getting decent control.
bhb7 17g @ 50lbs mains and Gosen 17g@ 52 cross didnt work for me. too powerful for my game.
Ill stick with BHB7 17g @52lbs mains and gosen 17g @ 55lbs crosses
But he's No.2 in the world and a world class athlete, so you're not exactly comparing like for like. Go compare Nadal with a full bed of gut, to Nadal with a full bed of poly.
The spin a lings caused more spin than Nadal hits, as his shots don't go 3' over his opponents heads. They are not legal, but are extremely fun. If you exaggerate your brush, it is insane spin.
spin a ling
The edges of the straws rip into, and then fold over, the ball. I hereby copy right this invention and trade mark the name: spin a ling.
So I just hit a bit with Luxilon Rough mains and NXT crosses at 53lbs and I wasn't super impressed after my awesome run with BHB7/OGSM and BHS/OGSM Luxilon is nice, but I really don't think it's worth the price
Does anyone else feel that BHB7 had little loss in tension, but a big loss in spin?
I haven't noticed that at all. The tension maintenance seems really good right up until it breaks. The string definitely notches more easily than some other polys i've used, but I don't know why the spin characteristics would change much.
yes, i've experienced this. BHB7 holds tension ok, not great, but i start seeing reduced spin at the 2 hr mark and a much bigger loss in spin at the 3 hr mark which also corresponds to when the mains stop snapping back.
spin levels drop for a couple of reasons...the sharp edges of the string get dull and smooth after repeated poundings against the ball and no longer have the same bite on the ball. the string stops snapping back when it has lost its elasticity and starts going dead.
I haven't noticed any parts of the string going dull or smooth..it just notches. I'll take a closer look at my racquet tonight, but haven't observed that. It has stayed very consistent for me.
i've noticed all the structured strings will begin losing their edge after 2-6 hours.
It's a thinner version if you use a thinner stirng, otherwise it's the same string!
I've noticed that my BHB7 went completely smooth after an hour of hard hitting. But I didn't feel any loss of spin at that point.
Is this a comparable/competitor to RPM Blast? I hope so...it's cheaper!
^^ it's better than RPM Blast
Better string for 1/2 the price.. can't beat it..
I've posted about this in the rackets section too, but I'd like to ask here as well;
I strung up my IGPMP yesterday with 17g @ 55lbs (full bed) and just finished playing with it, and it just was not working for me at all today. I'm coming from TF Black code 16, and the BHB7 just felt so "boardy," as if the whole racket tightened up. I did notice the spin, but that was about it. It only felt good when I hit in the sweetspot, but aside from that it just felt bad. The BC just felt plush all around, just not sure what's going on.
I do like the spin aspect of the string so I do want to give it another whirl, but do you guys know if it strings up tight/will it soften up more? I also have a half set of TF X1 BP around somewhere, was thinking about a hybrid with BHB7, has anyone tried that as well?
^ Maybe you went to tight, maybe there was a glitch in the stringing, or maybe you're not hitting through the ball enough because the 17 shouldn't feel boardy at 55 (assumed it was on a crank?).
In fact, the Prestige MP was one racquet that I thought the 17 worked very well with (apart from on volleys or in touch play, where that springiness became a hindrance) though the Prestige I used was a leaded up Youtek version.
I strung up my pro tour 630 with bhb7 at 55 mains and 53 crosses and it didnt feel boardy to me, the spin was fantastic as was the control. I got a lot more power than i was expecting. I do have a little bit of led at 3, 9 and also 12 so that may have helped
I think I'm going to have to invest in a reel of this string! it's amazing!!! I can string it up in 40 minutes (I know it seems slow, but that's really stinking fast for me on my gamma x-2) and it plays fine, even if I don't do the best job on it. I like the comfort and the pop that it gives me! (it is way louder and more powerful than Luxilon BB Rough 17 and a bit more forgiving in a way) I think I just need to stick with one kind of string for a while and this might be a winner!
So I hit again today and boy it played so much better. The stringbed loosened up a bit (I tried applying some pressure to middle of stringbed) and played so much softer. I was actually enjoying hitting with it and didnt want to stop!
I guess next time I will string a bit lower or just let the tension settle in. But there were still hints of "boardiness" on some off center hits. But that's to be expected with any string.
Next time string the crosses a little lower which should help
I broke another set of the BHB7 over the weekend. This one lasted a bit longer than the last..i'm thinking somewhere at the 7-8 hour mark. I did notice that the notches really smoothed out toward the end; maybe I missed that on the first set because they broke a lot sooner.
I didn't really notice a big drop-off in spin, despite the smoothing of the strings. I was getting a little annoyed with how my volleys were really spraying out a lot. I barely touched a couple of them and they just took off. So that's the part that is real difficult when i'm playing doubles, not so much in singles. I might have to get a different setup for doubles. I still haven't found the magic middle ground for groundies/volleys. It seems like what you give up in on area will also make another more difficult.
I remember liking Big Hitter Silver before...I may give the Big Hitter Silver Rough a shot, because I've always enjoyed playing with LUX Alu Rough. I remember volleying really well with that string also.
BMR, I've been playing BHSR17 the last few months and enjoying it, its a good combination of power and control with good spin, and its more forgiving on the arm than LUX Alu Rough. I've been going up in tension with it from about 48 to 52 now and am considering 55. Its feels very powerful in the low tension range, curious how it will hit for you at 60.
Strung the 17 gauge up with bhbr 17 as a cross (ran out of bhb7 on the last cross). This is in a 4d 300 tour, strung at 51 lbs constant pull.
I can see what people are saying about the ball really going through the court. The ball really exploded forward in the direction it was hit. It was very different from bhbr.
groundstrokes: plenty of spin, and nice pop. Really helped out my backhand going cross court.
Serves: this is where I struggled. I just couldn't hit flat or kick serves. Slice serves were great though.
Volleys: I play doubles for my varsity team, so I need to have good feel. Fresh, it's ok to volley with. But after 5 hours if play, volleys were tough.
For a singles baseliner with topspin strokes, this is a great string. A bit better than bhbr. A 9.5/10 in my book.
Can anyone give a comparison of the 16 gauge to Genesis Typhoon or Twisted Razor?
just did a hybrid with BHB in the mains, wilson stamina in the crosses, both at 63. let you guys know how they hit tonight.
I've been hitting with BHB7 17G for two weeks now and love the string... for the most part. Great spin, great power, very comfortable, but the durability is terrible. It's lasting maybe 4 hours per set. Should I go up to the 16G? Seems that the gauges are pretty thin anyway, so maybe 16G wont be too bad?
Try the 16g. For some reason I can't break bhbr 17 but easily break bhb7 17. Haven't tried the 16 yet myself
I've noticed a few of you are using Gamma X2 stringers.How tight are you adjusting your clamps? I just strung a full bed And I couldn't get the clamps tight enough to prevent slippage without marking the string.
I love the way this stuff plays, but I hate stringing it. I find it much harder to weave than BHBR or other polys. It reminds me of stringing Volkl Cyclone.
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