Tourna Big Hitter Blue - Thread for Playtester Feedback

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Playtesters,

As instructed in the email you have received, please include the following in your comments:

• playing conditions (temperature, indoor/outdoor, court surface)
• tension it is strung (please do not hybrid)
• String pattern of your racquet
• power (or lack there of)
• feel
• tension maintenance (how long it holds its desired tension)
• likes/dislikes and why

****No hybriding please****


Thanks again for your cooperation.

TW Staff
 
Thank you guys at TW for this opportunity!

But, when is the "deadline" that these results have to be posted by?

Thanks again!

-LiU
 
Looking forward to this playtest. I really like Big Hitter Silver, so I might just like a little bit softer feel.
 
Thank you TW for my first playtest. Hopefully I won't screw it up. I don't know how one would..but I hope I won't have to find out
 
I'm not complaining or anything, but why is TW deciding to send out these strings now? I don't think they're new?

BTW I decided that I'm probably gonna string these up at 57 lbs when I get them.
 
Just got mine in the mail as well.

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Got mine in the mail today, strung it up, and had a great hit with it. Did everyone get 17g?
 
I'm not complaining or anything, but why is TW deciding to send out these strings now? I don't think they're new?

BTW I decided that I'm probably gonna string these up at 57 lbs when I get them.


You'll like it at 57. I ususally string BHB 17g at 56 on my lockout.
 
Alright thanks. Now all I need to do is find a stringer..mine decided to start charging me $10 a pop all of a sudden :(

$10 is a good price. That's what I charge friends. My local pro shop charges $14, and all other home-stringers I know charge $15.

Just to put that in perspective.
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What would make a better comparison: BHB vs. Gosen OGSM, or BHB vs. Prince ProBlend? Lately I've been hitting with the synthetic gut, but I can imagine my findings saying "Yeah, the poly is stiffer and hits with more spin. Also, it doesn't break nearly as fast as the synth." That would be earth shattering, wouldn't it?

Of course, maybe the strings will surprise me and be totally different than expected. Hmm...
 
Just got my set intoday....
Just curious, though, why are we "testing" a string thats already been on the market for a while?

not complaining by any means, just curious
 
$10 is a good price. That's what I charge friends. My local pro shop charges $14, and all other home-stringers I know charge $15.

Just to put that in perspective.
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Yea I know its cheap, the shop I use to get mine done at charged me $15. Its just that my friend did if for free twice. I was just wondering why he decided to charge all of a sudden?

What would make a better comparison: BHB vs. Gosen OGSM, or BHB vs. Prince ProBlend? Lately I've been hitting with the synthetic gut, but I can imagine my findings saying "Yeah, the poly is stiffer and hits with more spin. Also, it doesn't break nearly as fast as the synth." That would be earth shattering, wouldn't it?

Of course, maybe the strings will surprise me and be totally different than expected. Hmm...

Just got my set intoday....
Just curious, though, why are we "testing" a string thats already been on the market for a while?

not complaining by any means, just curious

Haha I asked the same thing
 
mine showed up today, will string it in the coming days..just in time as the switch to PHT has caused some shoulder stiffness (couldn't be the player right??)

I think TW is doing this as a way to provide feedback on some alternatives they have...if you are a luxilon enthusiast, say BB or Adrenaline this may be an option ...but many may be wary because of the price tag, a price that is too low in relation to value can be just as much of a detriment as a high price tag...
 
mine showed up today, will string it in the coming days..just in time as the switch to PHT has caused some shoulder stiffness (couldn't be the player right??)

I think TW is doing this as a way to provide feedback on some alternatives they have...if you are a luxilon enthusiast, say BB or Adrenaline this may be an option ...but many may be wary because of the price tag, a price that is too low in relation to value can be just as much of a detriment as a high price tag...

That's a good insight.
But who knows. We can only find out after this playtest. Imma go out and try to pop my current strings. If not, then I can always cut it.
 
I just strung it up and I have to say I'm surprised at how easy it was to weave! It took me an hour to string (while watching the World Cup) and that's right around my average time to string non-poly's. I am looking forward to playing with it!

I strung it at 52lbs, on a Silent Partner Swing, and will be comparing it to a full bed of Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 55lbs, strung a couple weeks ago on the same machine.

Be back soon...
GPB
 
I used to play with Topspin Cyber blue and from what I have researched, they play very similar to big hitter blue. Received my set a few days ago and will be stringing these up soon.
 
I strung it at 52lbs, on a Silent Partner Swing, and will be comparing it to a full bed of Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 55lbs, strung a couple weeks ago on the same machine.
I hit for about an hour with my wife today, and I am very happy with these strings. They're just as soft as my OG Sheep Micro, and might hit with a bit more spin. I say "might" because it's tough to tell from the little bit that we played.

Easy to string, nice to hit with, and at a pretty good price... we'll see how long they remain playable (be it a loss of tension or of elasticity). But so far, so good.

Seriously, I want in on one of these playtests...
They had a thread opened for about 8 hours that asked us to send them an email with various information. This is the first playtest I've been able to find the entry to... keep your eyes open; maybe you'll catch the next one!
 
They had a thread opened for about 8 hours that asked us to send them an email with various information. This is the first playtest I've been able to find the entry to... keep your eyes open; maybe you'll catch the next one!

Okay. Thanks for telling me. I'll look around for the next one...
 
Review

Here goes my review!

Conditions: I hit in the Boone (Appalachian State) on an 80 degree low breeze afternoon. They are relatively rough hard courts at slight elevation due to the mountains.
Tension: 50 mains/ 53 crosses on an 18x20 Dunlop AG200
Play: This being my first FULL poly string job, i was expecting a 2-by-4 type feel. But to my amazement there was just as much feel as my Gosen/TFibre Polyspin hybrid. So adequate feel. There was also plenty of power, perhaps due to the low 50# tension it was strung at. Plenty of spin (please note this is in reference to TFibre Polyspin 51#/Gosen OG 53# hybrid) if not more than my previous setup with little to no string movement. I use a semi-western full swing. Very soft, the Polyspin i had before was a stiff poly so this was a VERY welcome change.
Tension change/ease of stringing: This was much easier to string compared to Polyspin which is a lot stiffer. Gorgeous knots, clean cuts. Without a tension meter on me i would say overnight in my apartment it lost 5-10% of its tension (judging by just hitting on my wrist). The first 2 hours (warm-up + 1st set) it was a bit more harsh than expected, but after that for the next 2 hours it softened up and pocketed nicely with no string movement.
Likes/Dislikes: I like this string a ton for my first adventure into soft polys. I cant imagine Luxilon being too much better than this. This has got to have at least 90% of the playing characteristics of Luxilon at HALF the price. I will more than likely dive into this string again and purchase a few sets, maybe try a hybrid. This also looked wonderful on my AG 200 with the blues matching up nicely.

I will post again after a few more hits to tell about the long term hold-up of these bad boys.
OVERALL: I hit at about 4.0 with moderate topspin (semi-western, one handed bh) and an all-court game. I can't see myself busting this before 20 hours of use. RECOMMEND!!

~Thanks TW for this opportunity, receiving strings in the mail that i did not purchase was like Christmas :). So.. seriously.... thank you so much!

To TW and all readers:
I hope that gives you an idea of this string, please let me know how i did on this review... even give me a score out of 10 haha.
 
Play test review

I have been playing with the String a couple days.
Conditions: Summer Northern VA 90 degree heat middle of the day
Tension: 60lbs on my exo Graphite mid 16x18
My initial thoughts after a heavy hitting session were that the string has plenty of power and good spin. The string stayed lively through out the whole hitting session. I currently play with luxilon alu power and found the string to be softer and little bit less power than lux. i enjoyed this string it gave gave me plenty of play its a bit muted now but its still in one of my rackets.
Stringing: probably one the easier strings for stringing not as stiff as lux.
I really like this string and i ordered a couple more sets of it. Just might be what i switch to when my stash of luxilon runs out!:)
 
Here goes my review. Thanks TW for this opportunity!

Playing Conditions:
-SoCal, so it's usually around mid 80s to 90s.
-No breeze for the most part, but can be a very weak breeze if there's any.
-Not much humidity. Just a bit dry overall.
-Playing on outdoor hard courts.
-Full Western Grip
-Probably 3.5 or 4.0 player. Depends on the days....
-Play with a full swing. Use moderate topspin, hit hard flats whenever I can, and love to approach the net to finish with a nice touch volley

Racquet/String Description:
-Babolat Aero Storm Cortex (3 grams at 2,10 and 12 grams on handle)
-Open 16x20 string pattern
-Strung at 58, let the racquet sit around for 2 days after stringing.
-Racquet strung by a professional stringer

Playing:
-Really enjoyed hitting with this string! It has offers a great amount of power (I would rather call it "ball speed"), and control to keep your shots precise! Strings don't move around that much at all. Has good access to spin, especially for a standard shaped poly. I usually play with 16g, so maybe that smaller gauge gave a bit more spin that I'm used to. String is actually soft for a poly. Of course, you need to have that "break in" period (that's what I like to call that 1 hour of hitting with fresh strings). Just a touch stiff at first, but softens up really nice. I would compare it to be softer than my favorite Babolat Revenge. It's not super comfy, but still offers a soft feel compared to others. And after that little break in, strings movement is very minimal. Durability is pretty great so far. I play about 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. The string is barely starting to notch. Strings held tension pretty well. But I let the racquet sit around for 2 days, so I can't be totally accurate on that...

Likes/Dislikes:
-I like how this string offers so much in such a lower priced poly (comparing to $18 Revenge strings). It really is a great deal! My stringer commented that it was easy to string/weave.
-My only dislike....It's only available in blue!!! I know, really dumb reason, but I just wanted to put it out there! They should totally make a Big Hitter Black/White/whatever colors you guys want.
 
yay! more good reviews!

flashfire brings up a great point: more colors would not be too difficult. black and a yellow/gold being the two that should always be an option as coloring polys is not too difficult.

i mean if weed whacker string comes in 12 colors i'm sure they could do something a little more :)
 
Playing Conditions:
-Michigan so weather changes in minutes but it was 70's
-Playing on outdoor hard courts.
-Semi-Western Forehand, Two Handed Backhand

Racquet/String Description:
-Head Microgel Radical Pro (4 grams at 3 and 9).
-Strung at 60 Mains, 58 Crosses. (Strung by me).

Power:
- There was power readily available. I could flatten out my shots if needed, or I could hit heavy top spin. In other words, the string's did what I wanted which is always nice. I couldn't serve how I wanted to with these strings, but I was transitioning from RPM Blast to this so it is a bit different. Overall the power of this string was nice for a lower priced string.

Feel:
- It felt quite nice. No arm problems, not too stiff but not butter either. Decent ball pocketing as well, I had a good amount of control with the shots. I wouldn't say it's the best string in terms of control and feel but it's definitely not a bad string (Best by the way would be my current set-up of Hurricane and Gosen. Magic for me for whatever reason).

Tension Maintence:
-Can't comment too extensively because I didn't hit much with it most just feeding to my tennis class I teach, but the racket has lost little tension in the days I've have it in there.

Overall:
- Pretty good string. I would call it a great alternative for any of those out there looking to try something other than the Luxilon's or Babolat's or higher priced poly's. It really isn't a bad string, but the color definitely clashes with my racket.
 
huh? yeah kind of weird TW is doing a playtest on big hitter. They are a fairly well known poly. I used them a few times before I stopped using polys but got my cousin and my dad to use them. They are an above average poly and for the price one of the better strings out there. I think if you are going to try a bunch of polys before deciding one one Big Hitter is definitely one to try and use it as a measure against the others. I was stringing it at 53. tension maintenance was very good. Topspin not the best but slice was fine.
 
yay! more good reviews!

flashfire brings up a great point: more colors would not be too difficult. black and a yellow/gold being the two that should always be an option as coloring polys is not too difficult.

i mean if weed whacker string comes in 12 colors i'm sure they could do something a little more :)

Haha! Thanks for agreeing with me!
 
I forgot to put this on my review.

But this would be a great string if you're on a budget. Like for my example, I love a full bed of Revenge because of it's great power and durability. But it's $18! That's why I switched to Gosen Polylon because it's one of the cheapest polys on the market. But BHB is a great string at such a great price!
 
All About me:
Normally an impatient all-courter, running around haphazardly and always looking to finish the point. In these disgusting conditions, I'm living on the baseline lazily.

Playing conditions:
Outdoor hardcourt, Temperatures in the high 80s - 95°F, high humidity

Setup:
Volkl PB10 (16x19) @ 54/52 lbs
For a poly, the string was incredibly easy to string. Some slight coil memory but other than that it was breezy weaving.
Usually my setup is Tecnifibre Multi-Feel 17 mains @ 56 / WC Silverstring 1.20 or Topspin Cyber Blue 17L @ 53|54 lbs, respectively.

Power:
The power potential with this string was more than sufficient and at the same time, the control was there too. Power was definitely on the higher end of the power spectrum among the polys that I've tried in this gauge.

Feel:
This string feels almost too similar to Topspin Cyber Blue. For me, it really excelled in comfort and feel. It felt easy on the arm to the end of my hitting sessions. After the tension stabilized and the stringbed started softening up, the increased dwell time and ball pocketing was a plus.


Tension maintenance:
There was a noticeable initial tension drop that was more pronounced than on my usual TF MF/Cyber Blue hybrid during my first outing with this string. In light of this, next time around I'll be stringing a bit higher. After that, the tension drop was more gradual and linear as expected. The string maintained its playability well over the 10 hour mark, which I'm content with.

Finale
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My overall impression of UBHB is overwhelmingly positive. All in all, if the soft, lively, comfort polys (Topspin Cyber Blue) are your ticket then you'll happily welcome UBHB. The only area that I felt the string was slightly lacking was in spin potential. It also didn't grab the ball as much as other polys so I wouldn't use it if I used an extreme hawaiian grip and my game was based heavily on spin. I'll be picking up a few sets of this string in a thinner gauge and if the characteristics of this 17G translate well then I'll be ditching CB for this stuff.

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As always, thanks to TW for allowing me to be a part of this playtest.
 
• Playing conditions (temperature, indoor/outdoor, court surface): Outside, average temperature of mid 80s, on clay
• Tension it is strung (please do not hybrid): strung at 53 lbs on a Head Microgrel Radical OS (Normally string full poly at 51-53 depending on stiffness of string. Prior to this I had Genesis Black magic in the racquet at 52 lbs)
• String pattern of your racquet: 18 x 19
• Power (or lack there of): On a scale of 1-10, I would say 7.5-8.0. The string provided a nice amount of controllable power. The fact that it was 17 gauge provided the necessary spin to keep the ball in even when taking a large cut at the ball.
• Feel: I liked the feel to this better than Black Magic. It provided some nice ball pocketing but without losing a sense of where the ball was making contact with the strings. Just enough feedback without feeling it in the arm, as it does feel softer than most polys.
• Tension maintenance (how long it holds its tension): I've played about 6-8 hours with this setup so far, and although I don't have a tension meter to test it, my sense is that it is holding tension pretty well. I don't feel like it's playing any differently now than it was 6-8 hours ago.
• Likes/dislikes and why: I liked the combination of power/feel/control. Also enjoyed the minimum string movement. I usually string either fully poly or poly/multi hybrid to cut down on string movement in the mains. This would make a good string for a hybrid using it in the mains. The comfort/ball pocketing was nice, as mentioned. I didn't feel like my arm was taking a blow as can happen with some stiffer full poly jobs. It's a good lower cost option to some other polys but without sacrificing performance.
For those of you stringing your own racquet, please also include how the strings strung up on your machine: I string on a klippermate. This string was easier to string than most polys, felt softer, and was easier for me to estimate the slack I needed before lowering the tension rod.

Note: I'm a 5.0 baseliner
 
I have play tested this string for approximately 10 hours so far. I have used it to practice hitting from the baseline and in singles match play. Overall, it is definately a quality string based on the price point of the string. I would recommend it to people looking for a co-poly on the softer side with good all around performance. It didn't blow me away in any one area, but it seemed to do pretty good in all areas.

playing conditions - 90 to 95 degree temps, moderate to high humidity, outdoor hard courts.
tension it is strung - strung at 54lbs on my Alpha Revo, which is typical for my full poly setups with a softer feeling poly string.
String pattern of your racquet - using a Head Microgel Radical OS with a 18X19 string pattern. 4g of lead at 12. 4g of lead under the buttcap.
power - this string has above average power for a poly string. I typically use WC Turbotwist 1.18 and MSV Hex 1.10. The string has noticeably more power than the MSV Hex. It is in the same range as the Turbotwist. I also have been trying out Solinco Tour Bite 1.20 and it is lower powered than the Tour Bite. ALU rough has more power as well (and a much more crisp feel). Overall, it falls into the power category typical with most of the soft co-polys.
feel - The string had decent feel for a poly string. I have yet to find any poly string that really shines in the feel department, but the string performed in the typical poly manner for this. Comfort wise, I thought this string did above average as well. MSV Hex can play a little harsh at times and this was considerably softer feeling than Hex. However, it did not quite rise to the comfort level I find with Turbotwist. Also the Tour Bite plays softer than the BHB. Overall, I would describe the feel of the strings as slightly muted, but that is pretty typical of similar strings.
tension maintenance - I let the racquet sit for 24 hours before I used it. The initial tension drop seemed pretty typical of other co-polys I have used. The first hour of hitting with the string had that crisp new poly string feel. After that, the strings settled in and played very well for the next 4 or 5 hours. After those two initial hitting sessions, I noticed some tension loss, but the strings were still very playable for the next 4 or 5 hours, bringing me to the 10 hour mark. Towards the end of my last hit, the strings seemed to be losing some of the control and playability I noticed in the beginning. I am still no where near breaking these, so I will likely play with them one more time and make a decision on cutting out the strings. The BHB seems to hold tension better than my typical MSV Hex set up, but is a step below the Turbotwist. However, it is still doing pretty well considering the price point and the comfort level of the strings.
likes/dislikes - I liked the string in the sense it was fairly cheap for a co-poly, held tension well for its price, and offered good all around performance. The spin off of these strings is similar to what I get with SPPP and the power was probably a little better. So solid performance at a good price.

As far as dislikes go, the color isn't my favorite considering it is in my orange and black radical. There wasn't really anything about the string that I didn't like in the performance - as I mentioned it was a quality all-around string. But at the same time, nothing really stood out about the performance as well. So there really wasn't anything to hype about the string either.

stringing - as I mentioned, I strung this up on my Alpha Revo. It didn't have a lot of coil memory and didn't seem overly stiff to string. For a poly, it was relatively easy to string.
 
I hit for about an hour with my wife today, and I am very happy with these strings. They're just as soft as my OG Sheep Micro, and might hit with a bit more spin. I say "might" because it's tough to tell from the little bit that we played.

Easy to string, nice to hit with, and at a pretty good price... we'll see how long they remain playable (be it a loss of tension or of elasticity). But so far, so good.

All About Me: I'm a 3.0 who thinks he's way better than he really is. Consistency is my problem; I LOVE to go for the big shots, or come up strong and attack the net.

Playing conditions:
I played a match last night on outdoor hardcourts, with temperatures in the high 80s (F). It had just rained (the courts were dry) so there was HIGH humidity. I was sluggish the whole match, and should probably blame my problems on my feet instead of the strings... but...

Setup:
I use the Volkl C10 Pro (16x19) with a good bit of weight added to the handle, with silicone in there, too. I strung it at 52lbs, on a Silent Partner Swing. I usually use Gosen OG Sheep Micro at 55lbs. Recent setups: Volkl Cyclone at 35lbs was nice in warmups, but the ball flew crazily in matchplay. Poly/synth hybrids in the mid 50's usually work well for me, but using full synthetic gut keeps my elbow (recently) and shoulder (in the past) happier.

Power:
If I got a good rip on the ball, it was sweeeet. If I chose to take a bit off the shot, hitting the "rally ball," it would tend to float out on shots that felt like they would be good. Big Hitter Blue is definitely NOT LACKING in the power department.

Feel:
BHB has this surprisingly soft feel to it. I don't think I'd be able to tell it's a poly, just from the feedback given to my hand. This is a GOOD thing.

But even though it doesn't feel harsh while hitting, it's now the day after and I'm feeling a bit of tennis elbow flare-up. It only happens when I hit with poly's. Maybe I try to hit the ball even harder than I do with nylon strings, maybe it's the vibrations coming back, maybe it's something else; but my elbow is sore today.

Tension maintenance:
After an hour the other day (quoted above) and then about 2 hours in a match, I seem to have LOST A BIT OF CONTROL. Last night, I found myself wishing I strung the BHB at a higher tension. Maybe this is due to tension loss. We'll see how it performs in the future.

Finale:
It's TOO EARLY to give a final judgement on the strings. Let me get back to you when (a) I'm not so tired ( I'm exhausted for some reason) and (b) my elbow feels better. I usually attend a clinic on Thursdays; instead of opting out today, maybe I'll play with my Gosen racket to get a good comparison of the strings.

Oh, and the color... it reminds me of chalk line! I'm used to seeing black, natural, or red in my racket (which is yellow and black, with a little red). It doesn't really matter, but it was odd at first sight.
 
I haven't had a chance to play with Big Hitter Blue 17 yet because of a hectic end of the indoor season and playoff schedule. But this morning, I was able to string up the set, and I have to say that this has got to be the easiest-to-string poly I have ever dealt with. I typically gravitate towards soft feeling and comfortable poly's, but this one takes the cake. Weaving, tying off, tensioning; it really was a pleasure. It was so much more pliable and easy to work with than other polys. As a reference point, I usually use SPPP/ Topspin Concept Pure/ Big Ace in my set ups. The Big Hitter Blue was easier to string than any of those. Curious to see how it hits...
 
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