Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
I would take it off your hands at a discounted rate if that's of interest to you.

Has to be cheaper than the tw-e prices though so it's up to you if that's worth it.

Im pretty committed to this string at least till I'm buying new frames post COVID.
I'm pretty committed to this string. It has a combination of qualities that I haven't been able to find elsewhere. My only reason for changing would be if this shearing issue can't be resolved. I've only had three such breakages in 40-50 string jobs, but having two of them in this last week is what has gotten me to reach out. I definitely have not had the number of string breakages as @FIRETennis but something feels like I might be trending that way.

Agree with you that other than this issue, it is a long last string and plays well until the very end before it notches through.
 

chic

Professional
Makes sense, I'm just always out here fishing for a good deal when someone gets too frustrated after it breaks :p

I string for myself and usually have to restring after 2-3 weeks anyway, so the occasional more frequent string job doesn't ruffle my feathers too much.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Makes sense, I'm just always out here fishing for a good deal when someone gets too frustrated after it breaks :p

I string for myself and usually have to restring after 2-3 weeks anyway, so the occasional more frequent string job doesn't ruffle my feathers too much.
I'm generally very lazy so I don't want to string more than I need to. The 17 gauge Silver 7 Tour lasts about 12 hours for me before breaking at a notch in the center mains, and plays good for about 11 of those 12 hours which is why I love the string. If I were to go away from this string, I'd probably use Hyper-G or Confidential in 1.20, but neither of them last as long nor are as highly playable for as much of their life in that gauge. Any thicker and I start losing launch angle in my 18x19 racquet, and I'm also at the upper end of my swingweight capability too so I don't want any thicker string.

The Tourna representative has been very responsive and I get the feeling they've read this thread and will hopefully continue to monitor it.
 

slal1984

Semi-Pro
Really like this string..!! Play with a full bed at 53/51 on a blade v7 16x19 (leather grip).

Great spin and control, it really bites!! It plays awesome for about 4-5hrs, then great for another 2, and by the time it's around 10hrs in its time to cut it out. The good thing for me is that I don't feel much loss in terms of control.

Also, its very arm friendly at this tension. I tried the 1.25 gauge
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
I ended up with 24 feet of Cyclone 1.25 from my son's reel, and 18 feet of S7T from one of my reels, and so it's hybrid time! I put the Cyclone in the mains a couple of pounds tighter to compensate for the extra tension loss it will have, and kept the same tension for the S7T in the crosses.



Bottom line: Lower launch angle than a full bed of S7T, and a bit less power. Didn't hit any shots where spin levels were noticeably different. Control felt no different, and the impact feel really wasn't changed that much from a full bed either. It might have been a little softer but that's probably because I expected Cyclone to have a bit more give than S7T. By the end of the session, I was hitting with it normally, and when I pulled out a racquet with a full bed of S7T it only took about two or three minutes to get used to the higher launch angle.

A full bed of S7T just feels more consistent throughout the range of shots. Cyclone seems to add a bit of extra juice on softer shots but not be as powerful on harder shots, which accentuates that bit of non-linearity that S7T has.

Still, not bad, and I'll play with it until something breaks to see how long it lasts.
 

smithie

Rookie
I ended up with 24 feet of Cyclone 1.25 from my son's reel, and 18 feet of S7T from one of my reels, and so it's hybrid time! I put the Cyclone in the mains a couple of pounds tighter to compensate for the extra tension loss it will have, and kept the same tension for the S7T in the crosses.



Bottom line: Lower launch angle than a full bed of S7T, and a bit less power. Didn't hit any shots where spin levels were noticeably different. Control felt no different, and the impact feel really wasn't changed that much from a full bed either. It might have been a little softer but that's probably because I expected Cyclone to have a bit more give than S7T. By the end of the session, I was hitting with it normally, and when I pulled out a racquet with a full bed of S7T it only took about two or three minutes to get used to the higher launch angle.

A full bed of S7T just feels more consistent throughout the range of shots. Cyclone seems to add a bit of extra juice on softer shots but not be as powerful on harder shots, which accentuates that bit of non-linearity that S7T has.

Still, not bad, and I'll play with it until something breaks to see how long it lasts.
As someone who is yet to go back to tennis as I live with a someone who is shielding, Injured Again, I’m really enjoying your thorough and continuous reviews of S7T. It’s saving me testing which I would haven been doing now and giving me more ideas. Keep it up!
 

chic

Professional
As someone who is yet to go back to tennis as I live with a someone who is shielding, Injured Again, I’m really enjoying your thorough and continuous reviews of S7T. It’s saving me testing which I would haven been doing now and giving me more ideas. Keep it up!
I have a couple reels of it, cyclone, pros pro red devil, and 2 different syn guts if there's any combos you want me to try out and give feedback on.

For myself I'm pretty set with full bed strung @42#x40#
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Have BHS7T in two PS97’s at 54lbs and in two 6.1 95 18x20’s at 47. What I have been able to surmise is that it has great durability, average playability but the playability is consistent throughout the string bed for 6-8hrs. Although the string will last in the frame much longer than that I prefer to just cut it out at 6-8hrs of play. $6 a frame for a real performer is not so bad.
Training about 3-4 hrs on court a week. String a couple of frames and good for a month. $12 a month is about as inexpensive I have found with full bed poly that will stand up to hitting with upper level juniors and collegiate players.
 
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SteveI

Legend
I'm having an email discussion with a person from the string division at Tourna, and have provided them a link to this thread. I'll update as relevant things come up.
Thanks for all your work in this matter. I have had some great conversations with folks in their string division also. I think they pay close attention to Talk Tennis and would be fools not to. TW and Talk Tennis members are very passionate about their gear. TW and Tourna have been partners forever! I am sure they both happy that this issue was brought to their attention and one reviews product and provides documention and visual details like @Injured Again !
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
As someone who is yet to go back to tennis as I live with a someone who is shielding, Injured Again, I’m really enjoying your thorough and continuous reviews of S7T. It’s saving me testing which I would haven been doing now and giving me more ideas. Keep it up!
My very best to you and yours. I hope you can stay healthy and your area gets better so you can get back out there.

As for me, I've been playing tennis almost daily, but with the same group of about ten guys. We all made a pact that we would try to be extraordinarily careful because what affects one of us, affects all of us. And that some of us are in our later 50's or older. I think we've been friends for long enough and honest with each other so my and my wife's level of trust and comfort are good. Outside of this group and close family members, my wife and I have been pretty physically isolated. Video conferences outnumber us going out at least five to one. It's just how the world is at this moment.

The time on the tennis court provides sanity and an outlet for stress. I'm pretty fortunate to be able to play when so many others still don't have easy access to courts.

In any case, I'm just always searching for that next great thing that will give me killer down-the-line backhands, or hoping to buy a string that has low volleys built into it. Happy to share my impressions and very thankful for everyone who shares theirs.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
My very best to you and yours. I hope you can stay healthy and your area gets better so you can get back out there.

As for me, I've been playing tennis almost daily, but with the same group of about ten guys. We all made a pact that we would try to be extraordinarily careful because what affects one of us, affects all of us. And that some of us are in our later 50's or older. I think we've been friends for long enough and honest with each other so my and my wife's level of trust and comfort are good. Outside of this group and close family members, my wife and I have been pretty physically isolated. Video conferences outnumber us going out at least five to one. It's just how the world is at this moment.

The time on the tennis court provides sanity and an outlet for stress. I'm pretty fortunate to be able to play when so many others still don't have easy access to courts.

In any case, I'm just always searching for that next great thing that will give me killer down-the-line backhands, or hoping to buy a string that has low volleys built into it. Happy to share my impressions and very thankful for everyone who shares theirs.
Thx man! Is this still your string of choice?
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Thx man! Is this still your string of choice?
It is! Early in the year before the pandemic hit, I was seriously considering going to Hyper-G for the summer months when the air is thin and the ball flies, because for me Hyper-G is just a bit less powerful and gives me a little bit more spin for the same swing. Since then, I've made a slight technique adjustment that gives me 5-10% more topspin for the same swing plane and that little bit of extra spin, maybe just an extra five to ten revolutions on a baseline-to-baseline groundstroke, has given me confidence that the balls won't fly long on me if I hit them correctly. I've tested it out in hot weather and with the wind at my back and this new corrected swing technique has really paid dividends.

Hyper-G still seems to generate more spin and has better bite on skimming type shots, and is a little bit less jarring when mis-hitting but it doesn't have the crisp feel that rewards me when I make good contact. I have been someone who has downplayed the importance of impact feel in the past but as I've competed against tougher and tougher competition, the greater self-doubt becomes a component of how well I feel I can compete. S7T just makes me feel more confident when I hit a good shot off the sweetspot. It's not just the crisp response versus Hyper-G's more muted thud, but it's also that little bit of harshness that feels like I've imparted a good amount of spin on the ball.

I haven't broken a string in a week, and the last two racquets I've strung up are nearing mid-life. As long as those shear breaks don't become an epidemic, I can't see switching away from S7T.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Wanted to update my Cyclone 1.25/17 gauge S7T hybrid string job from post 605 in this thread. I'm at about three hours in and the tension loss with the Cyclone mains had made the overall stringbed just a hair softer than a full bed of S7T that had the mains strung at a lower tension. Bite on the ball in general isn't quite as good as a full bed of S7T, but in hitting with it back to back there is one big difference. Yesterday afternoon, it was near 90 degrees F. and a bit humid, and I hit with it briefly using some new US Open balls that were hard as rocks due to the heat. I really didn't feel like I could get the strings to dig into the surface of the ball and so the launch angle was irritatingly low. I pulled out a second racquet with a full bed of S7T and those problems went away.

This morning, I played the Cyclone/S7T hybrid in cooler, shady conditions with Dunlop Championship balls that were not quite as firm and had no problem with feeling like the strings could not grip the ball, and also had no problems with a low launch angle. In using it back to back with the same racquet as I used yesterday, the playability differences were very minor.

I haven't noticed this kind of sensitivity before, but I don't usually play different racquets back to back in such varying conditions over two consecutive days. It may be happening all the time but if I warm up with a racquet, I instinctively adjust over the first ten minutes so that the differences don't become noticeable.

Has anyone else experienced changes of this kind based on temperature or the type of ball?
 

SteveI

Legend
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SteveI

Legend
You are only 1/2 right... Tourna in GA... TW began in CA...

The point being.. they have a long relationship. done with this... now back to tennis... LOL
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
I had another shear break this morning, this time on a cross string on a mis-hit when swinging hard. I was trying to hit a backhand hard and down the line on a passing shot and just caught the ball near the edge of the frame.



This stringbed has about six or seven hours, and was notched about 40% of the way through. When I pulled out the other end of the broken string to try and get a good look at end, it clearly shows that when I pulled that cross, I put about a 180 degree twist into it. It was one string away from the middle five crosses, so that string would have had 43 pounds of tension pulled on it, which is not a lot of tension. Here's a picture of the string that was still in the frame, showing the twist (it's the string fragment on the left):



I haven't heard back from the Tourna rep since a week ago so I'll reach out to them again today.
 

3virgul14

Rookie
I use the same racquet(prostock version of blade) and never had this problem over 10 string jobs. Can't say I hit soft either.

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Jouke

Semi-Pro
BHSR is this Big Hitter Silver Regular ?

Did you ever try BHS7T / Ghostwire - I think that could be an interesting hybrid.
What string dis you settle on Happi? Remember you were posting quite a bit in the Angell topic. What string/racket did you settle on and hows the arm?
 

Happi

Semi-Pro
What string dis you settle on Happi? Remember you were posting quite a bit in the Angell topic. What string/racket did you settle on and hows the arm?
Actually still searching and testing trying to find a soft Poly my sensitive arm can handle.

So far my two favorites are:

1. Topspin Cyber Flash 17L
2. Yonex Poly Tour Air 125

Both have low stiffness numbers from TWU database, and both plays well and ok tension loss.

I have tested a lot of Poly strings, and soon will go into Polyfibre territory, they are suppose to make super soft strings.

I do like the performance of S7T but my arm (wrist) could not handle a FB, I will try to hybrid S7T with Cyber Flash or GW.

So still a lot to try :)
 

taydbear7

Rookie
BHS7T/syn gut hybrid yesterday. I really enjoyed it. Is it me or does the S7T move quite a bit? I had the 17g at 52 tension.
 

ChrisG

Rookie
I had a very good tournament run this past week with S7T 1.25 in my I.Prestige mp. I didn’t like my usual tension (23kg) so I lowered it to 20kg and loved it ! Racquet tune said it was around 15-16kg after the first match (2h), and I played 4 other matches with this setup.
I think this string shines in a low powered control frame like the prestige. You truly benefit from the liveliness of S7T without over hitting.
I’m not a spin player, but I noticed some extra help as I could feel the string grab the ball on kick serves or some baseline FH
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
I decided to string my Blade V7 18x20 lower than usual and at 22 kg It was pretty horrible (my usual set up is 24-25).
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Do other people find this string to be more temperature sensitive as other strings? I loved this string indoors in winter at around 15-20 degrees but had the feeling all control lacked in sommer around 30 degrees celcius.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
Do other people find this string to be more temperature sensitive as other strings? I loved this string indoors in winter at around 15-20 degrees but had the feeling all control lacked in sommer around 30 degrees celcius.
Yep
 

Louis33

Rookie
Do other people find this string to be more temperature sensitive as other strings? I loved this string indoors in winter at around 15-20 degrees but had the feeling all control lacked in sommer around 30 degrees celcius.
I’m not sure if it was weather related but I tried the 16g and 17g in around 90 degree weather and disliked both. Power level was high in both gauges but what I disliked most was the inconsistency off the stringbed. Trajectory was all over the place with this string and I never could feel confident playing with it.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
First hit with S7T/GW this morning. Don’t like it as much as with the big hitter silver rough. Not as crisp. Had a more muted feel and kinda mushy. I played fine with it though and will keep it in for a couple more outings. Then...S7T/Prince tour XR.
 

cameron9713

New User
S7T/GW is definitely good if you are looking to soften it up a bit. I was dealing with elbow issues recently and it helped out tremendously. It was a bit mushy but better than multi/syn gut to me.
 

leejayh

Rookie
I have settled into BHS7T (47) / BHS (45) and this plays pretty great in my Donnay Pro One Penta 16/19. I have a sensitive wrist when the bed is too firm, and regular BHS softened it nicely.
 

Wheelz

Semi-Pro
Anyone tried it in the Clash or Clash tour? I will string one of my Clash with that string soon. I was thinking something around 48-50 pounds. Let me know for any advice. I like about 52 on Tour Bite Soft, so I figure 2-4 pounds less for stiffer string could be a good start.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Anyone tried it in the Clash or Clash tour? I will string one of my Clash with that string soon. I was thinking 50 pounds. Let me know for any advice. I like about 52 on Tour Bite Soft, so I figure 2 pounds less for stiffer string could be a good start.
Mid-last year, I strung up a Clash 100 with 17 gauge Silver 7 Tour at 48 pounds and it was pretty equivalent to Alu Power 1.25 strung at 51-52 pounds after they both settle in. S7T is a bit more crisp and gave a higher lanch angle but Alu Power feels a bit livelier at first. Getting used to the launch angle only took a few minutes of hitting.
 

Wheelz

Semi-Pro
Pretty happy with session #1 but Im always a fan of fresh string beds. Ill see in a few hours how it holds up but playability is supposed to be this string big strength. Loved it on the forehand ! slice was good as well.
 
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