Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Biggest wins with the BHS7T in my PS97’s is that the playability is excellent, tension maintenance is great and I feel nothing in my arm. Normally when playing full poly I can feel the difference the next day in my arm in terms of stiffness, a bit more aching etc as compared to Gut/poly. This string doesn’t wear on my arm any more than Gut/poly.
 
It is really a terrific string! I can't wait to test BHB7 and am pretty incredulous there was literally no discussion about this string before the playtest. I would have probably switched to this string years ago, and would have saved myself a thousand bucks in string costs.
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
yeah BHS7T 17g strung lower mid 50s is great. It has the shape/spin of diadem solstice power and the comfort of cyclone tour. I get good spin/power/comfort/playability duration/tension maintenance, what more could u want from a string? My only gripe is that in my setup (BHS7T//SPPP) I sometimes get an inconsistent response in the stringbed (sometimes it feels muted, other times feels crisp/lively) but i guess it’s unrealistic to expect absolute perfection. Well done tourna, amazing product!


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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
yeah BHS7T 17g strung lower mid 50s is great. It has the shape/spin of diadem solstice power and the comfort of cyclone tour. I get good spin/power/comfort/playability duration/tension maintenance, what more could u want from a string? My only gripe is that in my setup (BHS7T//SPPP) I sometimes get an inconsistent response in the stringbed (sometimes it feels muted, other times feels crisp/lively) but i guess it’s unrealistic to expect absolute perfection. Well done tourna, amazing product!


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Inconsistent response is what I have found as well doing poly/poly hybrids. Same string in the entire frame just feels more consistent. Up a couple of lbs on the mains and it is still consistent. Just what I have experienced.
 
yeah BHS7T 17g strung lower mid 50s is great. It has the shape/spin of diadem solstice power and the comfort of cyclone tour. I get good spin/power/comfort/playability duration/tension maintenance, what more could u want from a string? My only gripe is that in my setup (BHS7T//SPPP) I sometimes get an inconsistent response in the stringbed (sometimes it feels muted, other times feels crisp/lively) but i guess it’s unrealistic to expect absolute perfection. Well done tourna, amazing product!
Similar to @USPTARF97 I have found a totally consistent response using a full bed of Silver 7 Tour. I do kind of remember in the long ago past when SPPP first came out, that it was a much more powerful poly than the other strings out there at the time but every so often there'd be a shot that would just fly. I think that's why I may have gravitated away from SPPP and ended up using Kirschbaum P2, and eventually Competition, as go-to strings for a few years.

I'm still waiting to try SPPP Pure as a cross string to S7T, like you suggested. I'm generally pretty lazy, which is why I typically just string full bed, but I'm also curious to see how a poly/poly hybrid of these two would work. I remember SPPP being pretty powerful so power levels overall should not change much. I also just strung up Tier One Firewire Boost, and it feels like the cross string is the weak point in that combo, being muted, mushy, and low powered. So my poly/poly hybrid education definitely needs some more hands on experience.
 

Lefty5

Hall of Fame
Biggest wins with the BHS7T in my PS97’s is that the playability is excellent, tension maintenance is great and I feel nothing in my arm. Normally when playing full poly I can feel the difference the next day in my arm in terms of stiffness, a bit more aching etc as compared to Gut/poly. This string doesn’t wear on my arm any more than Gut/poly.
Confirmed the TM on the Silver 7 is amazing. 8 hours, still feels essentially the same. REELS in my future.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Black zone has been a favorite of mine from Tourna. Just tried the Silver 7T on a new angell stick and really loving the string
 
Can anyone compare the softness/general comfort level of S7T compared to strings like Hyper G, Alu power, etc? There doesn't seem to be an established stiffness rating like there are for so many other strings.
 

Doubles

Legend
Can anyone compare the softness/general comfort level of S7T compared to strings like Hyper G, Alu power, etc? There doesn't seem to be an established stiffness rating like there are for so many other strings.
Hyper G felt slightly more firm (if I can remember my own thoughts correctly). ALU Rough is definitely softer than S7T.
 
Can anyone compare the softness/general comfort level of S7T compared to strings like Hyper G, Alu power, etc? There doesn't seem to be an established stiffness rating like there are for so many other strings.
Silver 7 Tour is a crisper hitting string than Hyper-G, with a higher power level and just a very little bit less bite on the ball. Hyper-G feels pretty muted so mis-hits don't sound as bad, but I think overall the harshness of missing the sweetspot is pretty similar between S7T and Hyper-G.

Alu power changes its playing characteristics for me quite a bit over the course of the first four or five hours. Generally, Silver 7 Tour has more ball bite than Alu Power, but both have that lively impact feel though I think Silver 7 Tour is a bit more powerful on flatter shots, at least before Alu power dies and loses both power and grip on the ball after a few sessions of playing.

I just can't say again how much I like this string, at any price. Considering the price point, it will take a string with Federer's forehand in it to get me to change.
 

joaovitorss

New User
Silver 7 Tour is a crisper hitting string than Hyper-G, with a higher power level and just a very little bit less bite on the ball. Hyper-G feels pretty muted so mis-hits don't sound as bad, but I think overall the harshness of missing the sweetspot is pretty similar between S7T and Hyper-G.

Alu power changes its playing characteristics for me quite a bit over the course of the first four or five hours. Generally, Silver 7 Tour has more ball bite than Alu Power, but both have that lively impact feel though I think Silver 7 Tour is a bit more powerful on flatter shots, at least before Alu power dies and loses both power and grip on the ball after a few sessions of playing.

I just can't say again how much I like this string, at any price. Considering the price point, it will take a string with Federer's forehand in it to get me to change.

Nice! I might have to try it soon based on your feedback.

What other strings you used like and play before BHS7?
Thanks!
 

joaovitorss

New User
Silver 7 Tour is a crisper hitting string than Hyper-G, with a higher power level and just a very little bit less bite on the ball. Hyper-G feels pretty muted so mis-hits don't sound as bad, but I think overall the harshness of missing the sweetspot is pretty similar between S7T and Hyper-G.

Alu power changes its playing characteristics for me quite a bit over the course of the first four or five hours. Generally, Silver 7 Tour has more ball bite than Alu Power, but both have that lively impact feel though I think Silver 7 Tour is a bit more powerful on flatter shots, at least before Alu power dies and loses both power and grip on the ball after a few sessions of playing.

I just can't say again how much I like this string, at any price. Considering the price point, it will take a string with Federer's forehand in it to get me to change.
Also what gauge and tension have you been using and in what frame?
 
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Nice! I might have to try it soon based on your feedback.

What other strings you used like and play before BHS7?

Also what gauge and tension have you been using and in what frame?

Thanks!
Currently using 17 gauge Silver 7 Tour in a Wilson SW104. I string it at 51 pounds in the enter eight mains and 46 pounds in the center five crosses, decreasing the tension as I go out towards the edges. The outer mains have 39 pounds and the top and bottom crosses have 32 pounds of tension.

I tested a lot of strings before settling on the Silver 7 Tour. I originally thought I wanted 1.30 gauge strings but eventually settled on around a 1.20 gauge, so most of these strings I tested in both gauges. Anyhow, a list:

Hyper-G
Tour Bite
Revolution
RPM Blast
RPM Blast Rough
Element
Alu Power
Cyclone
V-Torque
V-Torque Tour
V-Square
Quadro Twist
Revolve Spin
Solstice Power
Cube
Tour Sniper
Proline Evolution
Firewire Boost
Explosive Red
Xplosive Speed
Flash

I'm sure there have been some more in there but that's what I can remember off the top of my head.
 

joaovitorss

New User
Cool! Thanks for the recommendation.

I have used Hyper-G and have been using Pro Line Evolution for a while now. Can you compare BHS7 to PL Evo in terms of spin, power, control, feel and playability duration?

Thank you!
 
Cool! Thanks for the recommendation.

I have used Hyper-G and have been using Pro Line Evolution for a while now. Can you compare BHS7 to PL Evo in terms of spin, power, control, feel and playability duration?

Thank you!
I looked back at my notes when I tried Evolution. I thought that it was crisp, had good tension maintenance, and slightly above average power. Downsides were that despite it being grippy for a round string, it couldn't compare to a good shaped poly. I wrote that my backhand slices tended to float high, and that I had problems trying to hit a slice serve out wide on the deuce court because Evolution didn't grip it well enough and I kept hitting them wide.

Here's a link with a photo, and my description two posts later:

 

McLovin

Legend
In a recent USRSA playtest this string had a stiffness rating of 198 and tension loss of only 22%. Sounds very promising considering the price ! Will have to give this one a try dampen my ALU power stringing costs.
I was part of the playtest, and actually found the tension loss to be closer to 15%:

I really liked this string, and bought another set to try further, but then got caught up in a bunch of other playtests and never got back around to it. Hopefully I can revisit it this fall.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
In a recent USRSA playtest this string had a stiffness rating of 198 and tension loss of only 22%. Sounds very promising considering the price ! Will have to give this one a try dampen my ALU power stringing costs.
That sounds about right. Have had to go up a couple of lbs from the tension I was using with BHB7.
 
I've got a ridiculous inventory of string sets at the moment and yet I still want to go but Silver Tour. My wife hates this forum.

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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I was part of the playtest, and actually found the tension loss to be closer to 15%:

I really liked this string, and bought another set to try further, but then got caught up in a bunch of other playtests and never got back around to it. Hopefully I can revisit it this fall.
I have been playing with this string in Pro Staff 97’s for awhile and the tension loss is minimal. It is interesting. Can take one out and hit for and 1.5 and then come back in and the tension basically the same as the other frame which has several hours on it as well. Great string.
 
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topspn

Hall of Fame
I was part of the playtest, and actually found the tension loss to be closer to 15%:

I really liked this string, and bought another set to try further, but then got caught up in a bunch of other playtests and never got back around to it. Hopefully I can revisit it this fall.
Nice review! I tried a set in 16g on an Angell ASL2 and the combination certainly had spin and comfort. I want to try it in the new PS @48lbs in 17g and see how it goes.
 
I have been playing with this string in Pro Staff 97’s for awhile and the tension loss is minimal. It is interesting. Can take one out and hit for and 1.5 and then come back in and the tension basically the same as the other frame which has several hours on it as well. Great string.
Now that you've used S7T for a while, how do you compare its tension maintenance, power, spin capability, and launch angle with BHB7?
 
Nice review! I tried a set in 16g on an Angell ASL2 and the combination certainly had spin and comfort. I want to try it in the new PS @48lbs in 17g and see how it goes.
I put Silver 7 Tour in at 46 pounds and it feels plenty stiff but I probably tend to like my stringbeds a little on the softer side since I prefer heavier swingweight. 48 pounds is definitely in the neighborhood for that string as tension maintenance is really excellent.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Now that you've used S7T for a while, how do you compare its tension maintenance, power, spin capability, and launch angle with BHB7?
Tension maintenance is a better with BHS7T and spin about the same. BHBS7T is a less stiff string than then BHB7. In the PS97’s BHB7 feels stiff at 52lbs while BHS7T is easy on the arm at the same tension.
If I had to choose one being more powerful it would probably be BHB7 although the power level difference is minimal.
 

Bantlord

New User
i strung it at 51 /52 in my pure strike 16x19 and it was way way too powerful. nice string but pretty lively.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
More importantly, where is the person in that article buying this string? $68/reel??? Hook me up!
 
The power and comfort scores are surprising. I have hit with S7T and Tour Bite back to back in the same racquet, in roughly the same gauges (though not 16 gauge S7T and 1.30 gauge Tour Bite at the same time) and I've found S7T to be noticeably more powerful and comfortable.

Last week, I strung up S7T for a person who uses Lux Element and they found the power levels to be roughly similar with Element being a tiny bit more comfortable. Element has a power score of 64 and a comfort score of 73. So either the 16 gauge plays way stiffer and lower powered than the 17 gauge, or the playtest results are dissimilar to what I've personally experienced.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
The power and comfort scores are surprising. I have hit with S7T and Tour Bite back to back in the same racquet, in roughly the same gauges (though not 16 gauge S7T and 1.30 gauge Tour Bite at the same time) and I've found S7T to be noticeably more powerful and comfortable.

Last week, I strung up S7T for a person who uses Lux Element and they found the power levels to be roughly similar with Element being a tiny bit more comfortable. Element has a power score of 64 and a comfort score of 73. So either the 16 gauge plays way stiffer and lower powered than the 17 gauge, or the playtest results are dissimilar to what I've personally experienced.
hmm..the playtest by TW Troy and Chris stresses how crisp playing it is and they played it at a low tension. In fact, at one point Troy says if someone isn’t sure what crisp is, this is it. I have tried S7T in 16g in an Angell ASL2 and hitting felt plush. Yes, this was a comfy foam filled angell that is low RA so you can play any stiff string in it. I’ll see how 17g feels in the PS which is a frame that won’t hide if it is crisp or firm.
 
hmm..the playtest by TW Troy and Chris stresses how crisp playing it is and they played it at a low tension. In fact, at one point Troy says if someone isn’t sure what crisp is, this is it. I have tried S7T in 16g in an Angell ASL2 and hitting felt plush. Yes, this was a comfy foam filled angell that is low RA so you can play any stiff string in it. I’ll see how 17g feels in the PS which is a frame that won’t hide if it is crisp or firm.
In every gauge of Tour Bite I've tried except for possibly the 1.15, I'd almost describe it as almost the quintessential "crisp" string. It has a stiffness that seems to ramp up quickly as it is stretched by the ball impact, and that high stiffness means it doesn't stretch much so the impact force is short in duration and transferred to the frame in one almost instantaneous moment.

S7T isn't like that. It has a bit more stretch but at the limit of its stretch still seems to ramp up the stiffness more quickly than a string I would describe as more springy feeling, like a multi or gut that has more consistent stiffness throughout the impact event.

At least that's how I think about it. It may or may not actually work in that way, and is one of the reasons why I think strings can be better evaluated from a distance if their stiffness were measured over a series of different tensions instead of just that one reference tension used to publish the stiffness rating.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
In every gauge of Tour Bite I've tried except for possibly the 1.15, I'd almost describe it as almost the quintessential "crisp" string. It has a stiffness that seems to ramp up quickly as it is stretched by the ball impact, and that high stiffness means it doesn't stretch much so the impact force is short in duration and transferred to the frame in one almost instantaneous moment.

S7T isn't like that. It has a bit more stretch but at the limit of its stretch still seems to ramp up the stiffness more quickly than a string I would describe as more springy feeling, like a multi or gut that has more consistent stiffness throughout the impact event.

At least that's how I think about it. It may or may not actually work in that way, and is one of the reasons why I think strings can be better evaluated from a distance if their stiffness were measured over a series of different tensions instead of just that one reference tension used to publish the stiffness rating.
Yeah, I agree TB has always been my standard on crisp but I never played it below 125 gauge. So S7T may end up being like a RS Lyon although maybe a bit more crisp. A level of crisp with some stretch that seems to tighten the harder you hit and bring in more control and with a bigger bite on the ball.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
You guys got me intrigued with this string! I think I will be ordering a reel. Looking to pair it up with my Blade V7.

How does the string compare to RSLyon?
 

Doubles

Legend
You guys got me intrigued with this string! I think I will be ordering a reel. Looking to pair it up with my Blade V7.

How does the string compare to RSLyon?
It grabs the ball better than Lyon, but also has more power. Lyon is an interesting string because it feels reasonably soft while still producing good spin. TBHS7 has a somewhat stiffer feel, but you can really make the ball dip.
 
It grabs the ball better than Lyon, but also has more power. Lyon is an interesting string because it feels reasonably soft while still producing good spin. TBHS7 has a somewhat stiffer feel, but you can really make the ball dip.
Just to be clear, because there is both a Silver 7 and a Silver 7 Tour string, and we've been talking about the Silver 7 Tour.
 

FIRETennis

New User
Gave this string a try today side by side with ALU Power Soft and gotta say while it's visible that the ball gets more spin, the launch angle was super high. I was surprised to see the balls go in actually due to the spin considering how high they launched off the string bed. The feeling was quite soft while still having a crisp bite on the ball.... hard to explain. I'm not sure I love the high launch angle of it yet, it almost seemed like I was hitting "Nadal-ish" shots without really trying. I could see it being quite difficult to flatted shots with this string.
 
There is a Big Hitter Silver, Big Hitter Silver Rough, and Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour. Don't know of a Silver 7 that isn't Silver 7 Tour.
My fault - you are correct. I was confused thinking about Big Hitter Black 7, which, uhhh, obviously isn't silver! At least there isn't a Big Hitter Black 7 Tour.....
 
Gave this string a try today side by side with ALU Power Soft and gotta say while it's visible that the ball gets more spin, the launch angle was super high. I was surprised to see the balls go in actually due to the spin considering how high they launched off the string bed. The feeling was quite soft while still having a crisp bite on the ball.... hard to explain. I'm not sure I love the high launch angle of it yet, it almost seemed like I was hitting "Nadal-ish" shots without really trying. I could see it being quite difficult to flatted shots with this string.
I would give up many bodily organs to hit Nadal'ish shots so I see that as a pretty huge positive. And I've had great success flattening out shots with the Silver 7 Tour. This is a video I posted in the v7 Blade thread with my first hit using the 98 18X20. More problems on my forehand side due to my reliance on the weight of the racquet to get the proper wrist position at the rear of the backswing, but the backhands didn't have too many revolutions - probably no more than 700-800 RPM in those shots.

The one thing I found about Silver 7 Tour is that it transitions linearly from pretty flat to pretty spinny as far as ball speed and launch angle coming off the strings. Some other polys seem to have an abrupt transition, so that trying to hit a very skimming heavy topspin shot generates very little forward ballspeed, or trying to flatten out a ball all of a sudden creates a very low launch angle. I just haven't found that with the Silver 7 Tour, which is why I've made this my go-to string. It is just very consistent and predictable for all of my swings.

 

FIRETennis

New User
I would give up many bodily organs to hit Nadal'ish shots so I see that as a pretty huge positive. And I've had great success flattening out shots with the Silver 7 Tour. This is a video I posted in the v7 Blade thread with my first hit using the 98 18X20. More problems on my forehand side due to my reliance on the weight of the racquet to get the proper wrist position at the rear of the backswing, but the backhands didn't have too many revolutions - probably no more than 700-800 RPM in those shots.

The one thing I found about Silver 7 Tour is that it transitions linearly from pretty flat to pretty spinny as far as ball speed and launch angle coming off the strings. Some other polys seem to have an abrupt transition, so that trying to hit a very skimming heavy topspin shot generates very little forward ballspeed, or trying to flatten out a ball all of a sudden creates a very low launch angle. I just haven't found that with the Silver 7 Tour, which is why I've made this my go-to string. It is just very consistent and predictable for all of my swings.
Interesting, yes I can see it being more stable in a 18x20 lower stiffness racquet like the new Blade (which I am after to demo next). I used the Silver 7 Tour in a Pure Aero Tour which is 16x19 with the spin grommets. The string feels good and in its defense, I do get a high launch angle with anything shaped in that racquet such as Hyper-G, Tour Bite etc... Good string and good value though, definitely need to give it more hours.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
I've been reading this thread and am looking for a new string. I don't quite understand how a string with such a high stiffness (238 according to TWU) can be comfortable and arm-friendly.

I've played with Cyberflash (the old version - not likely to buy the new), Proline X (which I enjoyed and am thinking of getting a reel - or BHS7T), Cyberblue (not a lot of spin), Focus Hex (which I found oddly stiff and plasticky in 1.18), Black 5 Edge (don't remember anything special), SPPP 1.23 (a string I liked), and am currently working through a reel of Super Smash Spiky (yes, I know this is a deadly, arm-killing poly and am trying to retire it with the new string).

Can someone who knows any of my comparison strings pipe in and tell me if BHS7T would be a good fit? It will be the 1.25/17 version if I go that route. Currently hitting Cyclone 17 in my new Tecnifibre XTC 305s.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
The stiffness ratings on the 1.25 BHB7 and BHS7T are much lower than 238. My definition of a crisp poly would be Solinco Tourbite. BHS7T is far from Tourbite.
When you string BHS7T it is easy to see how pliable it is which is a sign of a softer string.
One of the positive attributes of BHS7T is there is very little notching. My PS97’s have been strung a couple of weeks and they have no noticeable notching.
 

Doubles

Legend
The stiffness ratings on the 1.25 BHB7 and BHS7T are much lower than 238. My definition of a crisp poly would be Solinco Tourbite. BHS7T is far from Tourbite.
When you string BHS7T it is easy to see how pliable it is which is a sign of a softer string.
One of the positive attributes of BHS7T is there is very little notching. My PS97’s have been strung a couple of weeks and they have no noticeable notching.
Agreed. Tour Bite 16L is stiff, bordering on harsh depending on the tension. BHS7T did not give me any pain or discomfort when strung at the same tension as TB.
 

FIRETennis

New User
The stiffness ratings on the 1.25 BHB7 and BHS7T are much lower than 238. My definition of a crisp poly would be Solinco Tourbite. BHS7T is far from Tourbite.
When you string BHS7T it is easy to see how pliable it is which is a sign of a softer string.
One of the positive attributes of BHS7T is there is very little notching. My PS97’s have been strung a couple of weeks and they have no noticeable notching.
Agreed. Tour Bite 16L is stiff, bordering on harsh depending on the tension. BHS7T did not give me any pain or discomfort when strung at the same tension as TB.
Third this. The BHS7T has a stiffness of 198 according to TennisIndustryMag's playtest. I played side by side with it and Tour Bite in same racquet and it's no comparison. Higher launch so deeper balls, way more spin than Tour Bite which brings the high launching balls into the court and much softer on the arm. I'm starting to really enjoy playing with it. Almost no notching after 1.5h of hitting with spin. Definitely great value for the price.

Has anyone tried BHS7T side-by-side with Tour Bite Soft? How do they compare?
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
Thanks. Maybe the 1.30 version is very different than the 1.25, and maybe TWU's measurements were off on this particular string. Both are possibilities. That definitely makes me more comfortable ordering some BHS7T.
 

joaovitorss

New User
Does anyone know where I can get this string IN STORE in Italy? Can’t be online cause I’m traveling and leaving soon.

Thanks!
 
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